The Hub on Causeway (née TD Garden Towers) | 80 Causeway Street | West End

DZH22 said:
I just don't understand why everything needs to be the exact same damn height all the time. Both of these towers are the same height of each other, and less than 10' taller than the Longfellow Tower across the street. Basically, it's an updated, 1 story shorter version of the trio of 28 State Street, 60 State Street, and Exchange Place. Those 3 look like a jumbled blob together, and that's what we're going to get here as well.
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We don't understand, but I'm pretty sure we all know why. I don't think anyone here is a fan of the West end NIMBYs. But they don't seem to care much about aesthetics, now do they?
 
Bulfinch/the west end is becoming......really nice. Never thought Id see the day or say the words. Its true. Lovejoy wharf is beautiful, the converse building is retro-cool to have that wonderful building and a badass lit up converse sign welcome you to the city, hub on causeway is epic- going to be a juggernaut of urban stadiums, nst came out nice and smartly placed on transit, the cut through also will allow the nice glass garden garage tower residents to get right to our 2nd transit hub as well, oh yea hub on causeway smartly has office and resi right on a transit hub as well, the podium office portion looks great already, the roads are restored with a central bike lane and the streetwall is incredible, the landscrapers filled out one of the final gaps in the area and look great, plus theres still a hotel coming next to the merano. This area was the neglected red headed step child of the city and now is actually one of the nicer areas blending all of this with the old build brick building streets across from the garden with all kinds of bars, restaurants. They go together perfect. This happened fast and its actually almost complete. Plus the stupid horrrrible looking bollards are gone. I hope now they can develop and open up the west end more and connect it more to the city so you can actually get inside...and want to. They need to do some work on the street grid and get it connected/built up on the empty lots. It should be a top priority to make this entire neighborhood that literally nobody goes inside into a functioning part of the city. It will make the city bigger as well to open up an entire downtown neighborhood.
 
All I ask is that the CR-Subway connection open ASAP.
 
This thing was flying up a only few weeks ago.....

Hope i'm not being overly pessimistic

but, progress upward/s appears to have STOPPED!

:)
 
stick n move said:
Bulfinch/the west end is becoming......really nice. Never thought Id see the day or say the words. Its true. Lovejoy wharf is beautiful, the converse building is retro-cool to have that wonderful building and a badass lit up converse sign welcome you to the city, hub on causeway is epic- going to be a juggernaut of urban stadiums, nst came out nice and smartly placed on transit, the cut through also will allow the nice glass garden garage tower residents to get right to our 2nd transit hub as well, oh yea hub on causeway smartly has office and resi right on a transit hub as well, the podium office portion looks great already, the roads are restored with a central bike lane and the streetwall is incredible, the landscrapers filled out one of the final gaps in the area and look great, plus theres still a hotel coming next to the merano. This area was the neglected red headed step child of the city and now is actually one of the nicer areas blending all of this with the old build brick building streets across from the garden with all kinds of bars, restaurants. They go together perfect. This happened fast and its actually almost complete. Plus the stupid horrrrible looking bollards are gone. I hope now they can develop and open up the west end more and connect it more to the city so you can actually get inside...and want to. They need to do some work on the street grid and get it connected/built up on the empty lots. It should be a top priority to make this entire neighborhood that literally nobody goes inside into a functioning part of the city. It will make the city bigger as well to open up an entire downtown neighborhood.
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The city realized the mistakes of the past and have done a good job of infilling the city. But the West End especially is probably a lost cause. It's mostly privately owned by people who have money and like what they have. The best we can get is cleaning up the edges. But the Bulfinch Triangle has probably never been this nice before, especially considering that it was cut up by railroads and highways for most of its existence.
 
vanshnookenraggen said:
But the Bulfinch Triangle has probably never been this nice before, especially considering that it was cut up by railroads and highways for most of its existence.
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Fair enough, but I think you'll agree that Avenir, The Victor, and The Beverly are three of the shittiest looking buildings of this cycle, and One Canal is at best, forgettable. Charles Bulfinch would put this crap to the torch.
 
stick n move said:
Yea we can hope n it sounds nice but people thought this with brutalism. People figured city hall would age and kind of find its place eventually, never did. I think for the most part you can tell if something is high quality or will age well.
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I have to be honest, I love city hall's design. I take photos of it whenever I'm walking by.
It seems to embody what the future was imagined to be at the time of design, a cold totalitarian government. Somewhat prophetic architecture can be? Perhaps it will take more time for respect to grow with this building. I believe tweaks could add functionality to the space around it and beholding it as art could introduce new programming using the structure itself.

I do feel you on graceful aging with the office tower, just waiting to see. Our world is a real mash-up these days.
 
LowerRoxbury said:
I have to be honest, I love city hall's design. I take photos of it whenever I'm walking by.
It seems to embody what the future was imagined to be at the time of design, a cold totalitarian government. Somewhat prophetic architecture can be? Perhaps it will take more time for respect to grow with this building. I believe tweaks could add functionality to the space around it and beholding it as art could introduce new programming using the structure itself.

I do feel you on graceful aging with the office tower, just waiting to see. Our world is a real mash-up these days.
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I was around when City Hall was being rolled out, prior to construction. The write-ups in the newspapers that I saw heralded the Plaza and City Hall itself as a gathering place for participatory democracy. The plaza was intended for public gatherings, marches, even protests. This was right after the JFK presidency, which had been a time of hope, and the startup of the Vietnam War fiasco under LBJ. No one was envisioning a totalitarian future.
There was actually a lot of hope and a kind of feeling that utopia was within reach, much different than the feeling today.
 
Among the the most intelligent things I've ever read about City Hall:

tobyjug said:
As a "primary source" I can tell you the thoughts were ones of pride and boldness. It is the architecture of the people who sent men to the moon.
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The Bulfinch Triangle and North Station are a representative sample of the architecture of the people who've forgotten what it takes to go to the moon, and why it's important to try...
 
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