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Wow, unnecessarily harsh.

By the way, I like all of the pictures people post, whether or not they cater to my own specific interests. Keep them coming, but let's try to be civil when it comes to criticism.
sure, civility is -- as a general rule -- the way to go, but DZH (one of the most prolific posters of photos on aB) was reacting to someone who called out his considerable and time-consuming work as "irrelevant" and "petty wankery."

if i added as much to the overall aB image gallery as DZH and someone demeaned my efforts similarly, i'd be pissed, as well.

you wouldn't?
 

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More or less. I guess it’s a commentary on how people interact with the city. For suburbanites and height fetishists(typically one in the same) this is all that matters but for people who actually interact with and live or frequently visit what’s happening over their head is largely irrelevant as long as it doesn’t suck.

In other words, more of a focus on urbanism and less on petty wankery would be amazing.

Yeah!! The skyline is irrelevant to anyone who lives within the city, were too sophisticated for that shit. All those people who spend millions for those views from the upper floors of tall buildings, are only paying more for the high floors so they can scope out more vegan juice bars from a tactically elevated position...

If you like whats going on above ground level then Im sorry to inform you... but youre a suburbanite. Us city folk are too busy looking left and right for flying derailed red line cars than to look up at that crap. Its nothing personal, its life n death.

I love this new thing where people have to proclaim just how much of a height fetishist, they are not!! ... while they scroll through a skyscraper forum day after day, night after night, looking at all the buildi..cough (street level). Yea, just here for the retail...

DZ thanks for the pics tho really. F all that other crap, just do what u do.
 
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I appreciate those of you who came to my defense. I enjoy posting pictures but it can be time-consuming. Taking the pictures is the easy (and most enjoyable) part, but then I have to sort through them, and sometimes there are hundreds. If I don't get them posted within about a week they're outdated, and my penchant for taking tons of pictures keeps me busy. My first cuts go to 2 folders, generic "Construction" and "More" for the other ones that stood out. Then I need to sort the construction into appropriate subfolders (sometimes harder said than done when multiple projects are in a given photo). After that I might realize that, hey, I have like 30 pictures of the same building and it's WAY too many! So then I have to compare them all against each other and chop, and chop, and chop them down to a reasonable amount. At the end I make a 2 part edit to "Color" and "Clarity", sometimes with straightening thrown in. Typically I can find a good combo to apply to all the pics in a given set, but it's different for every set of pictures I take. (I like ~70 color, 50 clarity) Finally, I upload everything, find the threads, and post them all one at a time. It does take a while....

So anyway, most of the time they (appear to be) ignored, but I recognize that there are plenty of lurkers who appreciate the pictures (yes their sporadic recognition does make a difference). I also know that they are the best possible way I can personally contribute to this site since my profession is unrelated. I don't often have the right timing to get daylight pictures within the city itself, which is another reason I'm typically at my lookout points instead. (also why I bought a camera with a strong optical zoom!)

The fact that most of my pictures are not commented on is absolutely fine. However, is it really too much to ask that somebody doesn't openly criticize my efforts? I even get the redundancy, but would counter that somewhat redundant pictures make it easier to track the progress as a comparison tool. But going out of your way to be nasty, and take shots, is 100% troll behavior. While TRM was an absolute broken record in a few areas, I don't remember that user openly belittling the work that other users put into this site. To those of you who do, you are the worst type of trolls here and if I go at you with an "uncalled for" fury, just know that (A) you deserve nothing less, and (B) I'm definitely not the only one who believes that either. I actually care about this site, and I contribute the best that I can to it. Can you say the same?

With that out of the way, here are a couple of redundant pictures from 7/28. Click in to view larger.

IMG_4516 by David Z, on Flickr

IMG_4547 by David Z, on Flickr
 

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well explained and great pix (as per usual).

as the exterior gets (slowly) finished 1 dalton is becoming more and more of a stunner. i was just there on wednesday and up close it's gorgeous.

definitely a daytime-view building, though. all the subtle touches and the overall shape get completely lost after dark. and, yes, i am one of those who likes some degree of night lighting on most highrises/skyscrapers and miss even the small tree logo thing.
 

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pictures and solid development news are the life-blood of this site. Many of us who have posted pictures over the years understand and appreciate the major efforts involved in getting the shots, culling, uploading and posting.

Thanks to all photographers!

Political and emotional comments rarely add any value.
 

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DZ,
To clarify: my comments about "redundancy" were about the recurrent height-related arguments, not about the photo sets. Count me in as one who really appreciates the photos and the associated effort.
 

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DZH22, in the board issues forum, I have requested a like button because I understand how much work goes into posting new photos
 

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DZ,
To clarify: my comments about "redundancy" were about the recurrent height-related arguments, not about the photo sets. Count me in as one who really appreciates the photos and the associated effort.
Thanks for the clarification. My ire was directed at another user!

DZH22, in the board issues forum, I have requested a like button because I understand how much work goes into posting new photos
This is a good idea. They use it on Skyscrapercity and it beats the heck out of a page full of "nice picture!" posts. It's an unobtrusive way to validate someone's efforts. Not just pictures either. For instance, when equilibria links to project pdf's, or datadyne rips the key points, or stick gathers the renders, these are invaluable contributions to this site and thank you for the updates!
 

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I appreciate those of you who came to my defense.
For what it's worth, and as a long-time lurker/one-time poster who's gone fairly quiet, I really appreciate you posting pics of activity around town. Thanks, sincerely. Please, keep it up.

In my own professional life, folks like you help when folks like me when we need to research the evolution of a building/block/neighborhood, so as to better understand the historical use and context of a place slated to undergo renovation/restoration.

Again, thank you.
 

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^^assuming you're referring to DZ's above shot/s. His mystery spot, and that other place he shoots (i think Belmont Hill?) suggests there is a great place to fly a drone–that a good, enhanced shot of Boston's drawn out, malnourished skyline is there to be had: probably a mile or 2 south of Belmont Hill, similar to these above shots, but just closer in. My completely harmless suggestion that drones produce the more flattering, aerial shots of Boston (vs aircraft photos) triggered more boisterous, buffoonery from the aB peanut gallery. Whatever.

DZ: your photo contributions are hugely appreciated.
 

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^^assuming you're referring to DZ's above shot/s. His mystery spot, and that other place he shoots (i think Belmont Hill?) suggests there is a great place to fly a drone–that a good, enhanced shot of Boston's drawn out, malnourished skyline is there to be had: probably a mile or 2 south of Belmont Hill, similar to these above shots, but just closer in. My completely harmless suggestion that drones produce the more flattering, aerial shots of Boston (vs aircraft photos) triggered more boisterous, buffoonery from the aB peanut gallery. Whatever.

DZ: your photo contributions are hugely appreciated.
Above pics are from Doublet Hill in Weston. My other "mystery spots" are probably either Robbins Farm Park (close to Belmont Hill) or Hattie Symmes Park, both in Arlington.

Others that get some regular visits are Horn Pond in Woburn, Prospect Hill Waltham, and Mt Auburn Cemetery in Watertown.
 

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