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The orange line cars are a great example of this. At any point they could have done a long interview with any of our TV stations, inviting them in and giving a detailed explanation of what the 9+ months of delays have been - describing what needs to be fixed/tested. Instead we get a generic "software issues".

Then they have a big press conference putting the new train in service. Only to pull it 3 hours later - and only here in archboston do people surmise they are still working out the bugs. Why not, at this press conference, say "it will only be on line 3-4 hours a day as we continue testing and working out small kinks"??

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They did give detailed updates on the initial delay in OL vehicle rollout to the FMCB, meetings of which are livestreamed and reported on by local media. I distinctly remember Jeff Gonneville explaining the details of what was wrong. Livestreams are available here: https://www.mbta.com/events. I believe you can watch archival recordings at the "Livestream" website.
 

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Maybe it is just because I just didn't know where to look before. But the existence of the FMCB is acting like a regular press release of information. Also seems like is acting like a force making the MBTA constantly posts projects and updates on them.

I'm not sure on the truthfullness of that thought because I know a lot reacted that the creation of the FMCB is just a way for Baker to stuff the system with his people and their anti-transit ways. But it does look like to me that it is (semi-unintentionally) aiding transparency with constant presentations and having to regularly update activities. Or maybe it's all been there before, but I didn't know where to look.
 

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Maybe it is just because I just didn't know where to look before. But the existence of the FMCB is acting like a regular press release of information. Also seems like is acting like a force making the MBTA constantly posts projects and updates on them.

I'm not sure on the truthfullness of that thought because I know a lot reacted that the creation of the FMCB is just a way for Baker to stuff the system with his people and their anti-transit ways. But it does look like to me that it is (semi-unintentionally) aiding transparency with constant presentations and having to regularly update activities. Or maybe it's all been there before, but I didn't know where to look.
IT WAS NEVER THERE in the past! -- give your rhetoric a rest

None of the alphabet soup was transparent from the get go -- they were designed for obscurity, behind the back dealing and general corruption

Today we have actual records of meetings by the T and Massport -- in some cases live streaming -- the T is gradually evolving [its been huge struggle] from Mr. Bulger's [Whitey?] Transit Authority

Thank the winter of '15 for our window into the obscurity
 

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IT WAS NEVER THERE in the past! -- give your rhetoric a rest
If you're talking about the "I don't really know" style of my recent posts, deal with it. It's an acknowledgement when I state stuff that I know that I don't really know.

One of those things are that I have noticed recently is that I am learning a lot more now from official mouthpieces. I pick up so much more these days by listening to FMCB that before I would heavily rely on posters (along with places like UHub or Reddit). They got their information from somewhere back then. But somehow either I forgot or never figured out how they consistently gather it from. It very much lends a possibility that I just didn't know where to look back then. Regardless how much I spent my time here and similar forums, I didn't really ventured into the state website that much.

Meanwhile, I am noticing the existence of the FMCB have been personally informational for me in both learning about what's being worked on and the nature of the system. Yet, I don't really hear a lot of positive buzz (or any buzz to be fair). But, I definitely remember the negativity when it was first formed back then. I recognize when there are contradictions and I try to keep that in mind when I post.

At least your post is kinda verifying that there is more searchable information than from back the. But I will not apologize if I'm annoying you with my rhetoric.
 

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IT WAS NEVER THERE in the past! -- give your rhetoric a rest

None of the alphabet soup was transparent from the get go -- they were designed for obscurity, behind the back dealing and general corruption

Today we have actual records of meetings by the T and Massport -- in some cases live streaming -- the T is gradually evolving [its been huge struggle] from Mr. Bulger's [Whitey?] Transit Authority

Thank the winter of '15 for our window into the obscurity
They made meeting materials available and did livestreaming well before the FCMB came into existence. Social media coverage was not the saturation-level it is today, but the records were most definitely available in the Grabauskas and Scott eras.

Criticize based on what they're doing or not doing to communicate today, not from unreliable memories, please.
 

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Just checked out the bidding list for upcoming MBTA projects and its undeniably the biggest list I've ever seen on that page... IF you're wondering what projects are in the pipeline and when, this is the way to know...
https://bc.mbta.com/business_center/bidding_solicitations/future_solicitations/
DESCRIPTION ADV. DATE
South Attleboro Station Improvements 8 / 2019
Green Line B - Branch Station Consolidation 8 / 2019
Natick Center Station Accessibility Improvements 8 / 2019
Court House Station Head House 9 / 2019
Lechmere Viaduct Rehabilitation 9 / 2019
On-Call Track and ROW III (Transit) 10 / 2019
Roberts Street Bridge 10 / 2019
Wayfinding Improvements (South Station, Harvard, Back Bay, Malden) 10 / 2019
Wayfinding Stations, Phase B 11 / 2019
Orange Line Tunnel Repairs 12 / 2019
Green Line Track Work Grade Crossing, Phase 2 12 / 2019
Winchester Station 12 / 2019
Court House Station Ground Water Mitigation 12 / 2019
On-Call Track and ROW IV 1 / 2020
On Call Facilities II 2 / 2020
Norfolk Ave. Bridge 2 / 2020
Structures Repairs 4 / 2020
On Call Parking and Paving II 6 / 2020
AFC 2.0 Installation Design Build 6 / 2020
Bus Stop On-Call 6 / 2020
Wayfinding and Station Improvements (5 Stations) 6 / 2020
Pawtucket Layover Shelter 6 / 2020
Station Lighting (N. Sta., Haymarket, State, DTX) 6 / 2020
Roofing Contract III 6 / 2020
East Cottage Street Bridge 6 / 2020
On-Call Track, Ties and Switches II 6 / 2020
Hingham Ferry Dock 6 / 2020
West Street Bridge 6 / 2020
Of note AFC 2 now has a 6/2020 BID date which isn't great... Also headhouse for Courthouse for 9/19 is good news. I'm seeing a lot of bridges I honestly don't know of but I expect more shutdowns from all them. GLGrade Crossing Phase 2 is also interesting considering they've done such a large number this year already.
 

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Remind me whats the (dis) connection between AFC 2.0 and fare collection on the GLX?
 

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Green Line B - Branch Station Consolidation 8 / 2019
Construction on the BU West stations is already underway, so is this referring to the Warren/Allston/Griggs triplet?

Remind me whats the (dis) connection between AFC 2.0 and fare collection on the GLX?
I'm not sure what you're asking about, but if AFC isn't in place by when GLX opens (which is starting to look likely), the T will need to buy AFC 1.0 fare vending machines for the GLX stations.
 

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Construction on the BU West stations is already underway, so is this referring to the Warren/Allston/Griggs triplet?
The MBTA website says the B branch is in "final design", is there visible construction work?
 

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I'm not sure what you're asking about, but if AFC isn't in place by when GLX opens (which is starting to look likely), the T will need to buy AFC 1.0 fare vending machines for the GLX stations.
They could always move the proof of payment machines that were installed all along the D branch and never used. Might need to be dusted off.
 

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What is this building at the east end of Back Bay station on Berkeley Street? It's owned by the MBTA - is it a substation for the Orange Line?
 

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I find it interesting the argument that the new GLX stations will require old FVMs if AFC 2.0 isn't ready at that time when literally 80% of green line stops have no FVMs. I mean I totally support getting them but at their cost it makes you wonder if just waiting until 2.0 is ready makes more sense
 

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I find it interesting the argument that the new GLX stations will require old FVMs if AFC 2.0 isn't ready at that time when literally 80% of green line stops have no FVMs. I mean I totally support getting them but at their cost it makes you wonder if just waiting until 2.0 is ready makes more sense
It's some kind of legal requirement for new construction that may be rolled up in state-level accessibility regs. Can't open a new facility without checking off every box on required features, but can let unmodified existing facilities rot in grandfathering forever.

This is one of the Catch-22's of such a reg when AFC 2.0 ends up in a race against time vs. GLX's opening. Though I doubt there's much cost chew involved because they can either rush-repair a few broken FVM's stored in the shop, raid a few machines from other low-use stops, and/or scrape together some back-end equipment boxes removed from pre-renovation Wollaston and Gov't Ctr. in order to plug gaps.
 

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Random "general MBTA" shout out, since, among all its warts, we don't celebrated the good stuff enough:

The T legit has a fantastic user-facing website now. Dunno who did it, or how, but it is extraordinarily usable, intuitive, info-filled, and platform-agnostic.

Helped my (NOT tech savy, older) father figure out how to take the commuter rail into town today while simultaneously multi-tasking at work, and he accomplished figuring out whatever he needed via his 10-yr old smartphone with a shit out of date browser. And this grumpy man felt compelled to say "oh. that was easy"

So, serious kudos to whomever did this.
 

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Random "general MBTA" shout out, since, among all its warts, we don't celebrated the good stuff enough:

The T legit has a fantastic user-facing website now. Dunno who did it, or how, but it is extraordinarily usable, intuitive, info-filled, and platform-agnostic.

Helped my (NOT tech savy, older) father figure out how to take the commuter rail into town today while simultaneously multi-tasking at work, and he accomplished figuring out whatever he needed via his 10-yr old smartphone with a shit out of date browser. And this grumpy man felt compelled to say "oh. that was easy"

So, serious kudos to whomever did this.
Agreed, I went on it the other day and was very impressed. I second your kudos.
 
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Random "general MBTA" shout out, since, among all its warts, we don't celebrated the good stuff enough:

The T legit has a fantastic user-facing website now. Dunno who did it, or how, but it is extraordinarily usable, intuitive, info-filled, and platform-agnostic.

Helped my (NOT tech savy, older) father figure out how to take the commuter rail into town today while simultaneously multi-tasking at work, and he accomplished figuring out whatever he needed via his 10-yr old smartphone with a shit out of date browser. And this grumpy man felt compelled to say "oh. that was easy"

So, serious kudos to whomever did this.
Eh, the desktop interface is horrible. It's clearly designed for phones first.
 

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My only problem with the T's website is the algorithm for determining routes. It will route you to a direct transfer even if there is a quicker transfer with a short walk in between, Not usually a big deal, but when the CR is running late and I need to figure out whether the 39 or the GL would be better to get to work, it's annoying.
 

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