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T needs to get some students interested in monitoring and 'promoting" what is going on
When I was an undergrad at MIT in the early 70's I was doing some of that -- I got to meet with T people about plans and progress, few rides on work underway [e.g. very early ride on Quincy Line when it opened]

In exchange for the access we published some stuff as Student News and Features -- as official student MIT publications [paper of course]

Today -- it would be much easier with digital photos and social media --- could be a weekly student run [T monitored Blog on the T engineering and construction and re-construction, etc]

If I was the T -- I'd cultivate some students at a couple of U's during the school terms to do the Blog and then perhaps hire one or two in the Summer as interns to do some through documentation [e.g. construction of the GLX and its early operations] and presentation on web or social media -- good for the students careers and even better for the T as an impartial, connected source of a good story to tell
They have run student tours of GLX. Every school in Boston and greater Boston with an AEC-related major was invited in the spring, and if everything goes according to plan, there will be another set of tours this upcoming spring. Universities just don't want to publish that kind of stuff anymore. They're more interested in posting about materials research breakthroughs and big money grants.

I don't think students would make an impact in the promotion to the general public of how well the T is doing. That news might circulate around schools' civil engineering departments for a week or two then settle. The T needs some big push toward the general public to show how its getting better.

(The MBTA also runs a moderately-updated Flickr account.)
 

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They have run student tours of GLX. Every school in Boston and greater Boston with an AEC-related major was invited in the spring, and if everything goes according to plan, there will be another set of tours this upcoming spring. Universities just don't want to publish that kind of stuff anymore. They're more interested in posting about materials research breakthroughs and big money grants.

I don't think students would make an impact in the promotion to the general public of how well the T is doing. That news might circulate around schools' civil engineering departments for a week or two then settle. The T needs some big push toward the general public to show how its getting better.

(The MBTA also runs a moderately-updated Flickr account.)
You grossly underestimate the determination and drive of students at spreading things -- either good or bad

Tours offered to students in general is not the appropriate tool -- the T needs to consult with faculty and recruit a handful of interested students
in particular the local media are always looking for material that they don't have to do much to get ready to "publish" -- the students can provide the foot power to collect the imagery and write the text
 

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Exactly. For most places in the US, it’s impossible to be middle-class without owning a car. Many people, of course, do live without cars, but it’s almost always a nontrivial challenge. Boston/Metro Boston is one of a handful of places where that basic criterion gets met — and that’s only possible due to the T. So, in that fundamental respect, Boston gets put up into a very very small club — NYC, SF for sure, maybe Chicago, maybe Philadelphia, maybe DC.
 

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The T may not run great but it's scheduled service and service area is pretty great for America. Living car free in Boston is absolutely do-able (I do it) and it doesn't restrict what you can do or where you can go. The city where I used to live had a laughable bus system with once hourly buses, with routes that didn't connect to each other, and stops more or less on the side of the highway with zero connections to a destination. The nearest bus stop to my house was over a mile away and since the buses run in single direction loops it provided service in one direction only, and you had to ride the full hour loop to go one stop the other way. And this was in a fairly large (300k person) metro. And a bus ticket was $3 each way, no free transfers. But in the south of the US that's deemed perfectly acceptable. So I can completely understand how the T ranks so well when it's competition is service like that.

Actually come to think of it the MBTA has one of the better bus systems I've seen, it still needs improvement but compared to a lot of even large US cities the buses here are pretty good
 

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Personally, I think Average Commute Time for Transit Users: is a very bias metric to use to factor in. Cities that are large in area are going to have longer commute time. Ask someone commuting from Jamaica Queens to Manhattan how long it takes to get to work and it's obviously going to be longer than someone who for example, lives in Malden commuting to downtown Boston. But that's due to distance, not the "quality of service." It should be normalize by average distance and average commuting time.
 

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New CR platform canopies at North Station look ready for winter. Are they being mostly installed overnight?

Let's hope they're more rustproof/saltproof than those they replace.
 

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Btw, green line transformation public meetings start today.

 

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Actually started last week...

Also they're expanding the pilot of e-ink arrival displays to bus stops and surface level green line stops after finding them quite successful, but have to add an audio component to meet ADA laws.
 

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Annnnnnnd AFC 2 got removed from next week's meeting agenda... Again... For the... 5th time? I've heard whispers of ongoing litigation with cubic and various lawsuits...
 

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I can't tell if our standards have really dropped this much or if it's just a typo because I saw this posted on the MBTA station brightening thread today... we can't seriously be setting that as our standard of cleaned and repaired right?
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I can't tell if our standards have really dropped this much or if it's just a typo because I saw this posted on the MBTA station brightening thread today... we can't seriously be setting that as our standard of cleaned and repaired right?View attachment 186
I bet it was a brand new mop they sloshed the side walls with, though.

But seriously...as bad as that "clean" photo looks it doesn't do any justice to just how much those stairs are now sagging in the middle. As painful as it was when they closed the center-platform stairs for resurfacing it's nothing compared to what kind of hell on earth it'll be when they have to take each Red IB-side staircases offline for reconstruction.
 

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I can't tell if our standards have really dropped this much or if it's just a typo because I saw this posted on the MBTA station brightening thread today... we can't seriously be setting that as our standard of cleaned and repaired right?View attachment 186
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I sometimes wonder if the MBTA has ears in our forum... Caption was replaced today, thankfully looks like it was a mistake, was really getting worried there. Can't wait to see the results of the full weekend shutdowns in October...
 

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They are currently redoing the stairs at Park Street that connect the RL and GL platforms. What they are doing is shutting down half the stairs and redoing those and then shutting down the other side for repair. They have already completed one side of the stairs and it's a huge improvement. No more sagging. This was obviously a mistake. If I remember I'll try to snap a picture of the new half of the stairs tonight as I go back home.

On another note, they are fencing off other portions of Park street which I assume are for repairs.
 

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