A few slightly updated renderings of 58 Boyd Street from their latest Planning Board documents:
Agreed on both accounts. The updated design is a little more appealing than the original and light years better than Bayside Anchor.I really like the change of color palate. This will be a great addition to an otherwise ugly area. Personally I think the recently completed Bayside Anchor looks kind of garish.
AMEN!In the meantime, the trash-strewn empty lots in Bayside will be the most tangible legacy of Peter Monro's pointless career in architecture.
Federated isn't in a great position with the land, because it isn't in a good location to be anything other than market rate or efficiency apartment units. I can't imagine it being easy to market that location as Condo's or Class A office space. Even for retail, the location along a side street is less than ideal.Unfortunately, since Federated first pitched this project to address the city's housing shortage, about 1,000 other apartments have already gone under construction, and a few hundred more are in the pipeline in much more attractive locations than this one. It looked like a smart project back in 2013 when other developers and their banks were still sitting on their hands, but now, with so many other projects competing for tenants, I'm skeptical about whether anyone's going to take the risk on building hundreds of new apartments in a flood-prone area of Bayside.
That explains why they never broke ground in October as initially promised. Guess I was wasting my time keeping an eye on the site whenever I stopped by Planet Fitness :lol:I'm not sure they actually did pull any permits for the garage –IIRC, they *said* they were going to, but it looks like that never actually happened:
I don't think I could ever see Avesta or Portland Housing Authority building taller than 6-8 stories. In the past 20 years most low income housing developers have moved away from highrise "projects" style housing for a number of reasons. The future of affordable housing is something similar to PHA's redevelopment plan for Front Street. Smaller townhouse style buildings that are safer, easier to manage, and better for the residents, who often rely on neighbors and community services.Sorely needed, more Avesta housing. Was at the new 4 story Passive House unveiling across the street from the project proposal and the housing authority rep lamented the fact they should be building more units. He said they have over 7,000 people on the waiting list! What is the BFD about building something taller? In 1960's PHA built 16 story Franklin "Towers." Why not double this 6 story height to 12 or 14 stories? So many more people could get an affordable apt. It's the Maine way, that's why, and that way is to do things half-ass, half way. Hate that mindset. It's weak, lame, looser. Like the new civic center. They can't have some shows because ceiling too low and capacity too small. Come on, will somebody grow some b-a-l-l-s here. The city is growing, not shrinking.
Know all about it. I'm a partner in a high tech 5 story planned to go up soon. Yes, generally speaking, 6 story the cap on wood (though Scandinavians have a fix for that) but higher offsets the steel costs with more units, so more profit on the project. It's a bigger outlay, but very doable if you put in the effort. And for soil, no problem building the 10 story Intermed bldg. or planning the four 15 story "towers" on the Federated project. The real reason is Avesta doesn't want the hassle of the neighborhood opposition, because for some reason Mainers think that anything tall means they will then multiply like rabbits, which is a dumb mindset to have (therefore, becoming like Boston). The end result of this wimping out is still a lot more people without housing, and many Portlanders with property don't seem to mind because their property values will remain higher, rather than go down with increased competition. Every city in the world builds higher to fix this problem, except Portland, Maine.^ A six-story building is the tallest you can build while still using wood-frame construction (for now, anyhow), which is far cheaper per square foot than steel-framed construction. In Bayside, there are also lousy soils that require expensive pile-driving for anything taller than ~4 stories, in most cases, so that's an additional factor. Steel-framed Franklin Towers went up when federal subsidies were still generous.
For now, it's still easier to find empty lots than it is to finance a steel-framed building, so affordable housing developers (and most market-rate builders, too) are generally building in the 4-6 story range.
Speaking of the Maine or planning/historical board way, I did some research on the proposed housing project at 61 Deering street, and noticed a drop in one floor to three:Sorely needed, more Avesta housing. Was at the new 4 story Passive House unveiling across the street from the project proposal and the housing authority rep lamented the fact they should be building more units. He said they have over 7,000 people on the waiting list! What is the BFD about building something taller? In 1960's PHA built 16 story Franklin "Towers." Why not double this 6 story height to 12 or 14 stories? So many more people could get an affordable apt. It's the Maine way, that's why, and that way is to do things half-ass, half way. Hate that mindset. It's weak, lame, looser. Like the new civic center. They can't have some shows because ceiling too low and capacity too small. Come on, will somebody grow some b-a-l-l-s here. The city is growing, not shrinking.
reasons for optimism, perhaps??- Built in 2019
- 450 Units/15 Stories
My guess is that it is probably nothing. This is a blurb from apartments.com's About Us page:Browsing around online today, I noticed that Midtown properties are listed on Apartments.com. Not a lot of info, but it's a new listing.
no new renderings (in fact they're using very old renderings) but this stuck out to me
reasons for optimism, perhaps??
The saga continues...The developer of a long-delayed apartment complex has asked the city for a permit to build an eight story parking garage in Portland’s West Bayside.
It’s the first formal step by the Florida-based Federated Cos. toward actual construction of the so-called Midtown project, an estimated $85 million housing and retail development on Somerset Street that was approved three years ago. But the project’s fate is still not clear, in part because the city’s site plan approvals are set to expire next month if the project is not underway by then
Venne said in an email to city planners that Federated Cos. had previously submitted the application last year, but did not move forward. No reasons were given and Venne declined to be interviewed when reached by phone, saying, “We’re not discussing the project.”
you beat me by a minuteJinx LOL
It sounds like they're trying to get some kind of expedited permit review so that they can break ground before their planning approval expires.t is a single-phase approval, but we will be sequencing the construction (in a continuous build out) beginning with the parking facility presently being applied for,” Patrick Venne wrote in the email.