The Climate Change Thread

[coleslaw]

Re: MIT.nano

Why do you say "Noooooooo!" when someone stands up for the actual science and for the planet and not when the person originally did the opposite?

 

[George_Apley]

Re: MIT.nano

^ I think the "noooooooo" was more about another thread derailment. I'd suggest, that if you want to respond to Whigh's climate change politiking, you copy-paste his comments into the Climate Change Thread in the General forum.

 

[coleslaw]

Re: MIT.nano

But this assumes that the problem is the response to climate denial and not the original climate denial.

 

[Justin7]

Re: MIT.nano

^You are arguing with the crazy, rambling guy on the street corner. It does not matter who is right. The whole forum loses when you engage.

 

[datadyne007]

Re: MIT.nano

^You are arguing with the crazy, rambling guy on the street corner. It does not matter who is right. The whole forum loses when you engage.

+1000

 

[whighlander]

Re: Assembly Row (Assembly Sq Redevelopment) | Assembly Square | Somerville

Love the juxtaposition of the past and future:

• the past --- Eagle chopper --aka windmill*1
  
• the future -- clean reliable, efficient -- natural gas fired combined cycle generation *2
  
  
  
  
  

*1 about 3 MW under optimum wind conditions close to 0 MW the rest of time

*2 1400 MW whenever needed for as long as it is needed

 

[coleslaw]

Re: Assembly Row (Assembly Sq Redevelopment) | Assembly Square | Somerville

*1 about 3 MW under optimum wind conditions close to 0 MW the rest of time

*2 1400 MW whenever needed for as long as it is needed

*1 produces no continued CO2

*2 produces over a million and a half tons of CO2 a year

When there is already far too much carbon in the atmosphere tell em more about the future in your eyes.

 

[George_Apley]

Re: Assembly Row (Assembly Sq Redevelopment) | Assembly Square | Somerville

*1 produces no continued CO2

*2 produces over a million and a half tons of CO2 a year

When there is already far too much carbon in the atmosphere tell em more about the future in your eyes.

Ahhh You Bit The BAIT!!

 

[statler]

Won't take an unreasonable amount of work to spruce the immediate area up to tourist standards. Sullivan Square and the immediate area of the casino just finally needs to move forward with some long planned redevelopment. Not for the casino sake, but maybe the casino dollars can be put to use.

Would be good if the taller old smoke stacks can come down like they have recently in Salem. I think the smaller three old stacks are just used for high demand if they are still used at all. The tall stack, if I recall my grade school tour and maybe an earlier discussion on these boards, can be used for oil or natural gas, so it likely still has some utility if the price of natural gas goes back up. Otherwise I believe the newer lower profile stacks are part of a much more efficient and less polluting natural gas generating system. Would be good if anyone had more info on the power plant operations or any future plans. Maybe Salem coming back online with new generation capacity could enable Everett to decommission the older facilities.

Tangent -- I believe that current operation at the plant is concentrated in the new highly efficient combined-cycle natural gas units -- as you identified the shorter thick smoke stacks, one of the older dual -fuel steam units [tall stack], and a fast reaction combustion turbine used for "peaking"
http://www.exeloncorp.com/locations/power-plants/mystic-generating-station

Mystic Generating Station is owned and operated by Exelon Power, a business unit of Exelon Generation. Mystic is an eight unit, 1,998 megawatt (MW) fossil power plant located in Charlestown, Massachusetts.
Mystic 8 and 9 are 2-on-1 combined cycle gas turbines. Mystic 8 has a capacity of 703 MW and Mystic 9 has a capacity of 711 MW. Mystic 7 is a 576 MW unit that is fueled by either natural gas or oil, depending on market conditions. Mystic Jet is an 8 MW oil fueled peaking unit which is run during periods of high demand. All capacities reflect summer rating.

As a point of reference the name-plate rating on the nearby Wind Turbine located at the Massachusetts Water Resources Authority (MWRA) DeLauri Pump Station in Charlestown on the Everett line is 1.5 MW with a reasonable expectation of an average output of a bit less than 1/2000 of the fossil fuel plant

I know that he won't follow me here but..

The wind turbine provides power for one pump station. The fossil fuel plant provides power for thousands of homes and businesses. Of course it generates 2000x more power. You are comparing an apple to an apple orchard.