Fenway Corners (Red Sox) | 1 Jersey Street | Fenway

[Vagabond]

It's the Red Sox themselves doing it, though, ... if I were them I'd build Landsdowne high enough to accommodate bleachers on the roof.

This is what I'm confused about - they absolutely could have expanded the ballpark over the street and gotten lots more seating... This isn't even being ambitious - see below

Think Athletico Madrid...

or PSG Parc des Princes

 

[Equilibria]

This is what I'm confused about - they absolutely could have expanded the ballpark over the street and gotten lots more seating...

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Since I made that comment, though, it's become apparent that baseball teams see the future as smaller stadiums and more focus on other forms of engagement. Like gambling.

 

[SlothofDespond]

I dunno, since about 2009 I'd settle for watching HRs sail anywhere...

Since 2004, really. And 2008 was a nice validator, but they won a couple more. The online Sox fanbase is soul crushingly negative these days. You would not know from reading their thoughts that the Red Sox are arguably the most successful MLB team of the past quarter century.

 

[Vagabond]

Since I made that comment, though, it's become apparent that baseball teams see the future as smaller stadiums and more focus on other forms of engagement. Like gambling.

I'd be with you for soccer/football where there are limited events, but there are 81+ games per year in a baseball stadium - another ~3000 seats at $40 face is $10M a season before playoffs, and that's just for baseball games without concessions.

 

[SlothofDespond]

This is what I'm confused about - they absolutely could have expanded the ballpark over the street and gotten lots more seating... This isn't even being ambitious - see below

The Sox don't need more seating. The trend has been toward less seating, better per game fill on average, and more luxury boxes for a long while. No one likes being at a half empty 50k seating stadium. Fenway has actually jumped ahead of Miami and Cleveland's stadiums in recent years. Several teams have removed seating too (e.g., Colorado and Cleveland). Fenway is just shy of 38k but most parks are between 38-42k anyway.

 

[stick n move]

Yea I read an article last year about how fenway is upgrading the stadium again this year, but theyre not adding any more seats. A few years ago they filled in the corner to the left of the green monster adding a few dozen seats. I think they then lost a few seats when they added the mgm music hall and the new concessions in right field.

The most visible of the upgrades are new video boards.

Boston Red Sox Get Monster Display Upgrade with LG

Fenway Park transformed with 11 digital signage displays spanning more than 9,000 square feet.

www.avnetwork.com

Red Sox president details changes to Fenway Park, uniforms coming in 2025​

“Fenway Park has undergone countless changes since the John Henry-led ownership group took over the Red Sox more than two decades ago, but for now, any changes to the ballpark are expected to be more minor in nature. As team president/CEO Sam Kennedy revealed on MassLive’s Fenway Rundown podcast Wednesday, the Sox are looking at ways to modernize the ballpark before the 2025 season but don’t plan on making major changes to the historic venue.

“We’re not adding new seats or capacity,” Kennedy said. “But (there will be changes to) the creature comforts of Fenway in the different amenity areas, whether it’s the Green Monster, upgraded concessions, the right field roof, the or the new Aura Club. We’re not going to be adding new capacity. We are looking at some upgraded video boards and equipment, but largely the main improvements or changes over the next decade I believe you will see are in and around Fenway in the neighborhood.””

Red Sox president details changes to Fenway Park, uniforms coming in 2025

Joining MassLive's Fenway Rundown podcast Wednesday, Sam Kennedy said at least some changes are coming to Fenway Park, the team's uniforms and the Winter Weekend event in 2025.

www.masslive.com

 

[Arenacale]

I wonder how happy ownership must be that they never actually went ahead with the New Fenway that they proposed in the late 1990s. The current park is already "right sized" and gets to be an attraction in it's own right, apart from the team. I doubt much of the development that was proposed around the new stadium would have happened anyhow, they have a far better chance of it happening with the current park.

 

[Jeremi]

I wonder how happy ownership must be that they never actually went ahead with the New Fenway that they proposed in the late 1990s. The current park is already "right sized" and gets to be an attraction in it's own right, apart from the team. I doubt much of the development that was proposed around the new stadium would have happened anyhow, they have a far better chance of it happening with the current park.

Demolishing Fenway would have been an ownership error even larger than selling Babe Ruth to the Yankees.

 

[SteelyTom]

Building looks great, I'm a little surprised The Sox have shown no interest in building residential here and just building the price of lifetime season tickets into the Condo fees. These would be fantastic luxury apartments for wealthy baseball enthusiasts.

Imagine penthouse apartments with patio seating overlooking the left field wall.

 

[stick n move]

One of the new apartments that went up in worcester by the ballpark has views directly into the field, pretty crazy.

 

[cooper]

Since I made that comment, though, it's become apparent that baseball teams see the future as smaller stadiums and more focus on other forms of engagement. Like gambling.

Yes, Fenway is right in the sweet spot for capacity at around 37k. If they added expanded over Landsdown, you'd be looking at mostly empty seat-backs 75% of the time.

 

[CBCArch61]

So the publicly accessible pass-through... Is that intended to connect to this small parcel on the otherside of the Pike?

Do we think this is purely a pedestrian bridge or do we think there is larger, air-rights projects that will be associated to that parcel??

 

[393b40]

So the publicly accessible pass-through... Is that intended to connect to this small parcel on the otherside of the Pike?
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Do we think this is purely a pedestrian bridge or do we think there is larger, air-rights projects that will be associated to that parcel??

They've indicated in the past they want to do an air rights project at some point in distant future.

 

[JumboBuc]

So the publicly accessible pass-through... Is that intended to connect to this small parcel on the otherside of the Pike?
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Do we think this is purely a pedestrian bridge or do we think there is larger, air-rights projects that will be associated to that parcel??

The City filing explicitly cites this as a "connection over Parcel 8," which is the air rights parcel the Red Sox control.

"Publicly accessible pass-through space for future connection over Parcel 8 ("Lansdowne Overlook")"

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[Wiltonion]

At the last meeting Yanni Tsipis from WS definitively confirmed Parcel 8 was in the cards. Who knows how long we will have to wait, but engineering a portion of this building as a connection to Parcel 8 is a significant indicator that WS and the Fenway Group are serious.

 

[cubbe8]

At the last meeting Yanni Tsipis from WS definitively confirmed Parcel 8 was in the cards. Who knows how long we will have to wait, but engineering a portion of this building as a connection to Parcel 8 is a significant indicator that WS and the Fenway Group are serious.

I can’t even imagine Fenway and Kenmore without the Pike.