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“Shrewsbury has had a town manager, a select board, and a representative town meeting form of government since 1953. That form of government was adopted back when the town’s population was about 11,000,’ explained select board member Carlos Garcia. “The population is about 40,000 people, so it’s grown significantly, and the challenges have gotten more complex.”
In August, Shrewsbury officials created a “Form of Government Study Committee” to examine whether the status quo still works, or whether they should move away from things like an annual town meeting. One possible outcome is to become a city.
In Andover, a group of citizens has collected enough signatures to get a question on the ballot to examine their municipal charter. “I do think we need to make decisions sometimes quicker than we’re able to,” said Brad Wright, one of the organizers of the group called “New Andover Charter.”
Andover’s town meeting is open, meaning every resident is invited to attend. On paper, that should make the process very democratic, but Wright doesn’t think that’s what happens in reality.
“I think people happy with the status quo are people who have been in town for a long time and sort of envision this town as being the small town it once was,” said Wright. “I think it’s very difficult for young families with children to come out, not only one night, but multiple nights of town meeting.”
Brookline is yet another town where there has been a call for reform.
A group of citizens who have organized as “City Charter Campaign Brookline” wants the town to become a city.
 
Its probably about time brookline becomes a city. The town thing was cute for a while and the rejecting annexation that fucked up the entire area for generations, but lets get with the times. In reality they should be annexed to boston, but I think at this point gaining that many nimbys would be a net negative. If that were to happen wed have to annex places like everett and quincy to even it out.
 
Its probably about time brookline becomes a city. The town thing was cute for a while and the rejecting annexation that fucked up the entire area for generations, but lets get with the times. In reality they should be annexed to boston, but I think at this point gaining that many nimbys would be a net negative. If that were to happen wed have to annex places like everett and quincy to even it out.
I think you need to make it attractive to Brookline citizens to join Boston (outside of not having to say "I'm from Boston, well just outside of it"). What would be a positive? A promise to overhaul the Green Line? Some tax deals? Because annexing means losing Brookline Public Schools, and lets face it, that's a major reason that so many move to Brookline.
 
zoning zoning zoning. it's all county level in VA and progrowth factions can stomp out the type of pastoralist nimbyism we see in Weston. Not necessarily enough to build things denser than single family homes outside of essentially urban arlington and alexandria though.
This actually kind of ties into a thought I had recently. In MA the counties are essentially useless, they serve almost no purpose, but what if we empowered them? Boston is never going to be able to annex any more of its neighbors, but what if like LA we expanded suffolk county to include the metro? Suffolk is tiny, but what if it was expanded to include everything inside 95 and then was given a lot more powers for development? Even just suffolk as it is now includes boston, winthrop, chelsea, and revere. Even just empowering that more would be something.
 
GI think you need to make it attractive to Brookline citizens to join Boston (outside of not having to say "I'm from Boston, well just outside of it"). What would be a positive? A promise to overhaul the Green Line? Some tax deals? Because annexing means losing Brookline Public Schools, and lets face it, that's a major reason that so many move to Brookline.
Yea thats why I was saying that even though they blew it with annexation its definitely time for them to at least become a city now. Brookline still being a town in 2025 is crazy.
 
zoning zoning zoning. it's all county level in VA and progrowth factions can stomp out the type of pastoralist nimbyism we see in Weston. Not necessarily enough to build things denser than single family homes outside of essentially urban arlington and alexandria though.
yea Ive posted about this before -
Massachusetts has 351 municipalities compared to 412 in Florida, 138 in Virginia or 552 in North Carolina - in turn, they have 6, 4, and 7 times the area of MA. Some land uses are less controversial- a community is unlikely to oppose a new fire station. But say a jail, homeless shelter, or density? On the scale of a place like say Fairfax County Virgina, the political interests are spread out far enough across the jurisdiction that someone in Lorton VA likely won't have a strong opinion to commercial development in Tysons Corner - the minimal impact to the vast majority of their constituency may mean that a county commissioner may well be OK with siting a project somewhere that a local majority would oppose it. What's left of our historical county system is the various county houses of corrections - usually located in some out of the way corner, like a highway median.
http://archboston.com/community/threads/boston-and-the-homeless.2924/post-495664
This actually kind of ties into a thought I had recently. In MA the counties are essentially useless, they serve almost no purpose, but what if we empowered them? Boston is never going to be able to annex any more of its neighbors, but what if like LA we expanded suffolk county to include the metro? Suffolk is tiny, but what if it was expanded to include everything inside 95 and then was given a lot more powers for development? Even just suffolk as it is now includes boston, winthrop, chelsea, and revere. Even just empowering that more would be something.
Ive previously posted about this, and its one of my political passion points, but unfortunately probably politically unrealistic inside 128. In my view, to do so you have to provide tangible benefits to municipalities and their residents to get them to support something along those lines and give up local control, so its really more likely to begin out in the more rural parts of the state where individual towns are less able to provide comphrensive services. Its much harder to break the status quo - if the status quo is that someone else does it, a local government is very unlikely to want to take up that responsibility - but to give up local control? You would need a reason, like your entire police department quit. That basically eliminates everything inside 128 where the municipalities have ample resources to provide services. Theres a few exceptions, like MWRA that prove the rule though - most municipalities other than Cambridge aren't going to be able to provide their own water supply.

The other examples I tend to reach for are police and schools - recently several towns in Western MA have merged police departments ad-hoc because they're individually too small to support full departments. (Russell-Montgomery, Hardwick-New Braintree and Chester-Blandford). Western MA is prime "Sheriff's office" territory, while Regional school districts are even more common - we have 60, covering towns rich and poor alike, such as Lincoln-Sudbury or the Central Berkshires. The problem is, because we lack those county level structures, all of that happens on an intermunicipal basis - regional boards of health, regionalized emergency dispatch, regional assessing, all of it tends to be a group of towns agreeing to do a thing together, rather than reaching for a more centralized structure. MPOs and their regional planning tools and programs and RTAs are regional structures that towns take advantage of, but otherwise the things towns would want? There's no framework.

But notice those are expensive things... things that require staff, facilities, buildings. A planning board is less than 20 folks who are generally unpaid and have a meeting or two a month. The state would have to legislate it, and they did to create the Cape Cod Commission - but even that isn't fully empowered. It may be a centralized planning/historic/transportation board for the entire cape, but even as they write model bylaws for the entire cape, its up to each town to implement them and provide services.
 
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What if we cut middlesex county in half and then combined it with norfolk county and suffolk county to make one larger suffolk county or called it boston county?

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It looks more natural, its kind of weird how small suffolk is compared to worcester county.
 
The state really does need to take some further action in forcing some improved local government efficiency. Some issues that I still see after the removal of most county governments.

1) There's far too many towns of less than 1,000 residents - 28 in fact. And 12, even are under 500 people.
2) There's also far too many towns that are very large in land area but have little population to support such towns - like Petersham in Worcester County with 55 mi2 and only 1,200 residents or Sandisfield with less than 1,000 residents and 52 mi2.
3) A lot of the towns that should really be more full-fledged cities run as administrations rather than on the backs of town meeting.
 
What if we cut middlesex county in half and then combined it with norfolk county and suffolk county to make one larger suffolk county or called it boston county?

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It looks more natural, its kind of weird how small suffolk is compared to worcester county.

I'd make the argument that just make Suffolk county basically all of the inside of 128 - so everything from Salem to Waltham to Cohasset - like the old annexation plans from the turn of the century. Roughly taking an 11 mile line from Boston City Hall and making a circle.

And then to compensate Norfolk, give them a few towns from southern Middlesex county. That would leave Worcester county as the largest, and that could arguably be split between north and south pretty evenly.

All that aside though, maybe we should move this to a different thread instead of the Weston infill one? Mods?
 
yea Ive posted about this before -
Massachusetts has 351 municipalities compared to 412 in Florida, 138 in Virginia or 552 in North Carolina - in turn, they have 6, 4, and 7 times the area of MA. Some land uses are less controversial- a community is unlikely to oppose a new fire station. But say a jail, homeless shelter, or density? On the scale of a place like say Fairfax County Virgina, the political interests are spread out far enough across the jurisdiction that someone in Lorton VA likely won't have a strong opinion to commercial development in Tysons Corner - the minimal impact to the vast majority of their constituency may mean that a county commissioner may well be OK with siting a project somewhere that a local majority would oppose it. What's left of our historical county system is the various county houses of corrections - usually located in some out of the way corner, like a highway median.
http://archboston.com/community/threads/boston-and-the-homeless.2924/post-495664
I personally think Virginia needs more municipalities, or at least more consolidated ones. I hate how a lot of US metro areas have hundreds of thousands or even millions of people that live in urban areas but not in a municipality. (Houston, DC, Atlanta, etc.)

NJ also needs to consolidate its 564 municipalities in an area less than MA.
 
Why not eliminate counties altogether and follow CT's lead in adopting the RPA boundaries as the regional level units of government?
 
Anti-incumbent wave in Quincy!


QUINCY ‒ City voters have called for big changes to Quincy's two elected bodies.

Reformists candidates will hold the majority on the city council, unofficial results show, with all of the city's votes counted.

[...]

Anne Mahoney topped the ballot in the at-large council rate with 8,693 votes. Incumbent Noel DiBona finished second followed by Ziqiang "Susan" Yuan. Scott Campbell finished fourth, failing to win reelection. He was followed by Andrew Pham. Alie Shaughnessy came in last.

Challengers beat incumbents in Ward 1, Ward 4, Ward 5 and Ward 6.
 
I read that article this morning - she ends up looking like a flip-flopper and, somehow, Marty seems like he did a better job at keeping things going and staff happy than Michelle: An 11 person mutiny is kind of huge.
 
 
I really don't get what's going on with Wu here. The word "mandate" has been thrown around a lot in other elections around the country, but it's kinda hard to act like that isn't the case here when she was a strong advocate for these projects throughout her first term and her opposition ran so narrowly on opposing public infrastructure projects like bike and bus lanes in particular. There's no way that she can point to her minor (and I thought/hoped temporary) concessions to Kraft as the reason she won by so much. We know that if people really want something, they're not going to vote for the diluted version of it. It's all the same ingredients for White Stadium, but there's no hiccup or "stalling" there. In addition to advocates and voters, people in her administration and other previously supportive pols are turning. What is the theory on why she is taking so many steps back on transportation and street improvements right after she won in a landslide, how is this possibly beneficial?
 

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