221 Congress Street

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Some early renderings of 221 Congress Street.

A 7 story, 87-unit building with ground floor retail being developed by GreenMars

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I thought Hay Runner was developing this lot? I know that project died on the vine some years ago. What do we know about the nature of these units? Condos or apartments?
 
I thought Hay Runner was developing this lot? I know that project died on the vine some years ago. What do we know about the nature of these units? Condos or apartments?
This is a different project entirely. It's 87 rental units, all studios. I believe they're trying to target Roux Institute students
 
Cool use of this space- not sold on the project but we will see. Pretty cookie cutter.
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This is a different project entirely. It's 87 rental units, all studios. I believe they're trying to target Roux Institute students
Exactly. The Roux housing impact will be substantial going down Washington Ave. to where Redfern is going to build over 360 small apartments. They will more than likely start this summer or fall, hoping (and are applying pressure) for a city change with its inclusionary zoning penalty. There is absolutely no way that they are going to build nearly 100 affordable units in this area for a significantly reduced profit. By January of 2028 (the first semester at the new Roux), it will be a total sellers market and a desperate one for renters. Roux is committed to building a pedestrian/biking bridge next to 295 that will connect to the Bayside trail. Now, from Roux to Redfern's new building it's maybe a brisk ten-minute walk or easy 5 min. E-bike ride. Going down Washington Ave. from the above proposal at the corner of Congress to Redfern's new build, there are probably at least ten properties that could be developed into market rate housing that could appeal to Roux (I've heard through Roux that it could be up to 8,000 students by 2031). I know someone who owns one lot (teardown) along this stretch, and the AmVets property is up for sale. The bottle redemption center and the small office building to its right are also available, though not officially on the market. This area and Route 1 in Falmouth are good places for Roux to concentrate on. The residents of East Deering will put up a NIMBY stink with any more development.

Roux also needs a small hotel for their business model. A current program features at least 30 "students" from other countries who own current start-ups with a need to learn A.I. skills. This program will see substantial growth--perhaps tripled, so at least 100 per semester. The entire old bean factory is undergoing a massive renovation for incubators. I think a citizenM Hotel could work for these students along with teaching and lecturing visitors. A while back, Holiday Inn was interested in the Northern Burner lot, the one that Redfern is going to build on. There are only a few places along this stretch of Wash. Ave. that could go for less than a million, or now. I'd buy the whole street if I could. You don't need a crystal ball for this one.
 
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Exactly. The Roux housing impact will be substantial going down Washington Ave. to where Redfern is going to build over 360 small apartments. They will more than likely start this summer or fall, hoping (and are applying pressure) for a city change with its inclusionary zoning penalty. There is absolutely no way that they are going to build nearly 100 affordable units in this area for a significantly reduced profit. By January of 2028 (the first semester at the new Roux), it will be a total sellers market and a desperate one for renters. Roux is committed to building a pedestrian/biking bridge next to 295 that will connect to the Bayside trail. Now, from Roux to Redfern's new building it's maybe a brisk ten-minute walk or easy 5 min. E-bike ride. Going down Washington Ave. from the above proposal at the corner of Congress to Redfern's new build, there are probably at least ten properties that could be developed into market rate housing that could appeal to Roux (I've heard through Roux that it could be up to 8,000 students by 2031). I know someone who owns one lot (teardown) along this stretch, and the AmVets property is up for sale. The bottle redemption center and the small office building to its right are also available, though not officially on the market. This area and Route 1 in Falmouth are good places for Roux to concentrate on. The residents of East Deering will put up a NIMBY stink with any more development.

Roux also needs a small hotel for their business model. A current program features at least 30 "students" from other countries who own current start-ups with a need to learn A.I. skills. This program will see substantial growth--perhaps tripled, so at least 100 per semester. The entire old bean factory is undergoing a massive renovation for incubators. I think a citizenM Hotel could work for these students along with teaching and lecturing visitors. A while back, Holiday Inn was interested in the Northern Burner lot, the one that Redfern is going to build on. There are only a few places along this stretch of Wash. Ave. that could go for less than a million, or now. I'd buy the whole street if I could. You don't need a crystal ball for this one.
This might also be controversial - but everything from 146 Washington Ave through 210 (on that side of the street) should just be removed and rebuilt.
 
This might also be controversial - but everything from 146 Washington Ave through 210 (on that side of the street) should just be removed and rebuilt.
I "toured" the bottle redemption center's land as a possible purchase back in I think, 2017. The structures are a teardown so there was no point in going inside. The land or ground next to it, I can't figure out a way to describe it. The only thing I can think of are the remnants of a haphazard and broken up cement foundation with overgrown grass and weeds--perhaps something like a set scene from a Harry Potter movie. It was weird. I was almost expecting Hagrid to jump out of the bushes. Agreed, a complete obliteration of these properties would become a welcomed addition for the city.
 
I LOVE the concept of using of old rusted semi trailers for multi-family housing. How chic! MEH. Portland really needs to step up it's expectations from builders.
I literally thought: Oh ... so they're stacking shipping containers?

The whole thing would look "better" if the "middle sections" of windows aligned with the rest. Stylistically, it's giving me 1980's hotel vibes.

If the "brown sections" are wood - those are going to age and discolor over time. If it's pre-fabricated panels - the brown is a ..... choice?
 

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