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Is this the end of the line, or will it extend further south into downtown?

Given your handle, I'd say that tracks.

Local only. I don't see the need to install express tracks this far out, especially when RL stations are pretty far apart. A median el is out. It's a solution looking for a problem. It doesn't serve the towns well, and it's not like there is even space for large park-and-rides.

LOL. My aunt and uncle live in Pinehills. It ain't walkable in any sense.

Those curves juxtapose well with the old brick building.

It doesn't kill it, but it is doing the bare minimum to leave space. I do wonder that, if a Danvers Line was to ever happen, if they would run trains just north of the current Salem station and then reverse back into the Danvers branch. Surely less than ideal, but it avoids this development...

That's the most overly dramatic take I've heard. The space is disappointing, but 1) it's brand new and tenants haven't moved in yet and 2) far fewer people are going to the office now vs when this was planned. There isn't the density of users yet. Give this time, I'm sure it will evolve nicely.

BLX to Kenmore is a project that's at least 25 years down the pike. BLX to Charles/MGH will have to overload the RL so much that extending the BL (again) is the only option. A bit of a chicken/egg situation. I wouldn't worry about it for a while.

Holy shit, something interesting for once!

https://www.curbed.com/2023/11/luxury-central-park-billionaires-row-hudson-yards-weak-sales.html

LOL I guess I can't submit anything when they use my 20 year old map as the example.

The further discussions of the unbuilt roads have been moved here https://archboston.com/community/threads/roads-and-highways-general-development-thread.6872/

To be fair, because Cambridge St runs up a relatively steep hill, it's possible that any tunnel that would continue into Cambridge would need to start further into downtown. There's a reason that the Red Line crosses in a bridge (besides cost). I've always found extending the Blue Line through...

Boylston St made way more sense. Why build a subway line where half your catchment area is water?

Well, they DIDN'T build it. It was in a bad location, but it also could have been drainage issues.

RAIL is cost effective. Subways and tunnels really depend on the ridership and land value. The Rockaway Beach Branch (I'm the co-founder of a proposal to reactivate that) was, as we feared, spiked. They reduced the cost a bit, but it is still waaaay out of line with other projects which include...

My take is that it's a political document more than anything, and it's proof that the MTA has no intention of fixing its crazy cost issues. Many of these proposals were made to look so much worse than they are based solely on high costs, and much of these estimates are laughably high. These...

Looks like it is!

They built something like this under the commuter rail viaduct in downtown Lynn.

I'm gonna close this thread for folks to chill out. Name-calling will not be tolerated.