Biking in Boston

Prioritizing decisions that will help the most people
  • 2a. This means prioritizing streets where more people ride, when all else is equal
    • This point seems to be getting the most pushback, as the messages that I'm responding to are claiming the opposite to be true..
  • 2b. This means prioritizing streets with more hostile design, when all else is equal
I get what you are saying by wanting something of more substance backing up the decision making process. I think what others are pointing out, is that substance may be hard to find on CHA specifically. It appears that my image snip did not come through my last post, but for the specific project on CHA, I think there is substance in the discussion point of completing a north/south connection from town line to town line. It is connecting to a larger overall network instead of a piecemeal approach.
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  • Street A: Two driving lanes, 25 mph, wide shoulders, average sidewalks, 99.9% automobile mode share and 0.1% cycling/micromobility share.
  • Street B: Exactly identical street, with two driving lanes, 25 mph, wide shoulders, average sidewalks, 50% automobile mode share and 50% cycling/micromobility mode share.
I do want to come back to your example one last time though because I believe this example actually shows that we should prioritize Street A (in your example only, separate from the CHA discussion). Street B is already proving to have ROW Equity in that people feel safe to ride/walk/drive on the street, so one could ask, why do we need to improve said street if the safety feelings are already there? It can be improved later on as the larger network grows and connects. Street A on the other hand is clearly a more hostile roadway design (less ROW Equity) and you are more likely to see a substantial percentage jump in mode share by providing a safer roadway design that makes people feel more safe utilizing that route. I'd be willing to bet that there is also more commercial or other non-residential uses along Street A based on how the USA has developed over the last few generations. The way that much of suburban USA has developed is to put commercial or other non-residential uses on bigger, busier roads so when talking about a complete network and ROW Equity these mode shares should allow people to get to those commercial or other non-residential uses, which is obviously a massive social shift in the USA.

Streets such as CHA are basically low hanging fruit to finish the build out of a network to allow people to make the choice between walking/cycling/driving. The bigger pain point comes about when we try to provide this idea of ROW Equity for access to these commercial or other non-residential uses in suburban USA. Is choice even a thing at this point? While this logic obviously doesn't apply to ALL communities, I believe that if a town/city is directly served by MBTA frequent train service or shares a border with Boston, that the choice should be inherently built into that city/town.

Brookline has clearly done (based on the snip above) building out a network along the eastern portion of the city, but I believe that CHA provides a solid "border" to allow more urban, ROW Equity to the east of it and more suburban ROW Equity to the west of it.

I could venture a bit more fanatical and argue that Boylston Street (Route 9) from CHA to the Boston border should have a more urban, ROW Equity approach for mode share.
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It would tie in nicely with the improvements made at Washington & Boylston
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It appears that my image snip did not come through my last post
Wow these images really show how little work has been done in West Brookline for biking. Newton St should definitely be targeted next.

@bigeman312's Street A/Street B concept could definitely work for Heath Street as an Alternative to Route 9. I would be surprised to see Route 9 have bike lanes implemented, but Heath St practically runs parallel to Route 9, and has more of a suburban feel. In addition, a bunch of people use Heath to avoid Route 9, making Heath sometimes dangerous – implementing bike lanes and some speed humps might make some of those sketchy blind turns a bit safer for pedestrians/bikers.
 
Thank you all for the discussion. @HenryAlan I didn’t mean to present a strawman. I always enjoy exchanging ideas with you and ultimately we both want to see more equitable, safer, and more efficient streets at improve the quality of life for those who exist on and around them.

The fact that we don’t see eye to eye about whether to prioritize adding bike infrastructure to streets with higher cycling mode share or lower cycling mode share doesn’t mean either of us is wrong or presenting a strawman, just that we have a difference of opinion.

@CBCArch61 great illustrations! You are correct that I am trying to add a bit of substance to the decision making process that goes beyond my own personal gut reaction of “anything to reclaim space from cars is good,” or those who say “roads are for cars.”
 
Wow these images really show how little work has been done in West Brookline for biking. Newton St should definitely be targeted next.

@bigeman312's Street A/Street B concept could definitely work for Heath Street as an Alternative to Route 9. I would be surprised to see Route 9 have bike lanes implemented, but Heath St practically runs parallel to Route 9, and has more of a suburban feel. In addition, a bunch of people use Heath to avoid Route 9, making Heath sometimes dangerous – implementing bike lanes and some speed humps might make some of those sketchy blind turns a bit safer for pedestrians/bikers.
Lee Street and Hammond Street are next. Installation later this year. Heath is too narrow in certain areas for bike lanes.
 
I strongly disagree with this.

Let's break down what you are saying, with a hypothetical (becuase mode share data is unfortunately lacking):
  • Street A: Two driving lanes, 25 mph, wide shoulders, average sidewalks, 99.9% automobile mode share and 0.1% cycling/micromobility share.
  • Street B: Exactly identical street, with two driving lanes, 25 mph, wide shoulders, average sidewalks, 50% automobile mode share and 50% cycling/micromobility mode share.
You are prioritizing protected bike infrastructure in Street A. That's what logically follows from your argument. You are saying that, even though protected bike infrastructure would help more people on Street B, that you don't care. Street A is your focus. You will piss off more drivers and help fewer cyclists. That's backwards.

What you may be trying to say (but aren't saying) is that missing-link streets with the most hostile road design actually need protected bike infrastructure the most. Oftentimes, you see mode share depressed due to hostile road design. If that was what you meant to say, I'll give you that out.
I don't disagree here. I mean that of the streets that are identified as missing links (and are critical holes in a otherwise connected complete network), the ones with the lowest bike modes are highest priority. Those are often the same roads that have the most hostile design.
 
Does anyone know why the MBTA doesn't allow bikes on the WOR line on the Sunday before the race? To stop overcrowding due to the midnight ride into the city?
Yes, which is a shame because a few years ago they ran a special bike train for it. Something I hope Eng brings back but I’m sure there are challenges with crew availability or other factors the night before the marathon.
 

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