Dunkin Donut's - nimby's gone MAD

It is UNFAIR to add another restaurant to our neighborhood, which already has a high density of food establishments and associated issues

I have to agree with him here. I mean, c'mon, how many time have you walked around and thought "Argh! Too many many restaurants! Too much choice!" and then just give up and go starving for the night? It's a real problem folks.
 
ITS A GODDAM MONOPOLY.......SAY NO TO DUNKS and YES TO KRISPY KREMES or HONEY DEW
 
Plus, he randomly capitalizes words, always the hallmark of a well-reasoned argument.
 
No legit Boston neighborhood is without a dunks.
 
I just measured (via Google Earth) the Dunkin (ex-BR combo) where I'm originally from in East Freetown (Crossroads Common) and the one there is roughly 3,000sf. It does seem slightly excessive for Boston, which tends to have smaller Dunkins, to have a suburban-size one, but I suppose unlike the others you'd be able to find a place to sit. SBux in Taunton is just under 3,000 too.

Idk, I'd rather see that split in half, with the other half becoming some sort of retail.
 
Im no fan of Dunkin Donuts, but the idea that there are too many restaurants in the area is ridiculous. I live off of Tremont and walk past this building two or three times a day. At night the section of Tremont where this building is located, between West Brookline and Mass Ave, feels like a ghost town. It can certainly support more businesses.

There was also an article in the South End News that quoted the neighbors.

"I’ve lived in Boston for 30 years, and I understand restaurants are part of the urban landscape," said one abutter, Patrick Plunkett, "but there is a limit to how many restaurants should be in one tight area, because obviously there are negative impacts of restaurants no matter how hard restaurant owners try-trash, garbage pick up late at night, issues around smoking, abuse of resident parking. I think it’s very unfair for one neighborhood to have to deal with the burden of so many restaurants."

Also from the article, and this woman's name is very fitting:

"Nancy Downer, who lives above the proposed Dunkin’ Donuts site, said she isn’t against Dunkin’ Donuts as a business or Turnbull as a developer; she just doesn’t want any kind of food-related business to go into the location.

"My neighbor...was quoted in the Globe saying he wouldn’t have purchased his unit if the commercial space was zoned for food service use," she said, "and I think we all agree with that. The issue is this project is not appropriate for the location.""


And, from a letter to the editor of the same paper

"I have been a resident of Boston for over 30 years. My wife and I made the choice to live in the city because we believe in Boston and the South End. We understand and celebrate the fact that urban living is enriched by a diversity of cultures, businesses and views. However, rather than experiencing the benefits of business diversity, our neighborhood is experiencing the negative impact of what is evolving into a "food court" on the north side of Tremont Street adjacent to West Brookline street. Our neighborhood is a wonderful place to live, and we are already coexisting with a number of food establishments. However, adding one more food establishment will be the tipping point that changes a vibrant neighborhood into an unreasonable environment."

A food court? Neighbors have rejected three South End restaurants –– at the corner of West Newton and Washington, in the location of the Hite building, and now this.
 
It gets kind of weird on Mass Ave in the South End... there's 2 DD like across the street from each other.
 
At first I thought this was in some snotty suburban area. Instead it is in a snotty urban neighborhood.
 
I agree with datadyne007. This would be an abnormally large DD for Boston. Splitting the space in half would be a better route if that's viable. There was a furniture store in this space for a month or 2 this year, but it closed pretty quickly, so the owner may be looking for something that has a built-in following.

I also agree with joebos about how this area feels at night. It gets really creepy past about 8pm. No stores and no people. I don't know if a DD is the best option, but it is certainly better than an empty storefront.
 
Part of a recent Patch column on why living above a restaurant kinda sucks.

Restaurants can be kind of dirty

Who would want to live next to a restaurant anyway? Their clientele can be noisy, there are plenty of smells, and they attract rats. Not to mention, have you ever had to deal with valets? There’s never enough of them so there’s always a line of cars waiting, often double-parked, often blocking crosswalks and fire hydrants.

I live on Tremont Street in the South End. It can be very busy - we live across the street from two restaurants, one with valet parking, the other that attracts families with young kids who like nothing more than running around and screaming for hours at a time while their parents ignore them.

My block of Tremont has a corner market and offices for a lawyer and interior designer. Not bad. The Eagle bar is three doors’ down. I knew the bar got busy late at night but didn’t much think about it. They’ve been a good neighbor for the past six years. There was a porn video store downstairs that closed after a couple years and I can tell you, I wasn’t unhappy it did. It was run-down and had a seedy kind of look to it (especially from the inside …)

Living in the city requires patience and understanding

I’m under no misconception of what it takes to live in our city, in any city. To me, there’s a give and take, an understanding - an agreement - that not everything’s going to go my way. Sometimes I’ll be happy about living here and sometimes I won’t. Most of my neighbors are rational people, and they know this to be true, too.

It’s the odd person who pushes and pushes for something that makes no sense to the rest of us, or is unwilling to bend, to yield, to compromise, that sets off all of us.

Does it make any sense for a neighbor to be against a new building on Washington Street that would replace an “underused” retail shop, that would bring new housing to the neighborhood and a nice place to eat, too? To me, no.

But, does it make sense that, if you live on a block where your back door overlooks a community garden, you might not want a restaurant to open up two doors down with outdoor seating until 1 a.m. Well, yeah, kind of!

Unfortunately for us all, or, probably, fortunately, there are differing shades of gray in most situations and compromises can be made.

Oh, and the reason that things happen (or don’t) in our neighborhoods? It’s because people show up at meetings, talk to neighbors, write letters, and talk with their city councilors and state senators and representatives. Usually, these people get their ways.

There’s a lesson there.

http://backbay.patch.com/articles/opinion-would-you-want-a-restaurant-as-a-neighbor
 
It seems perfectly reasonable to argue that a massive Dunkin' Donuts doesn't fit in this neighborhood...
 
you might not want a restaurant to open up two doors down with outdoor seating until 1 a.m.

Don't most permits for outdoor restaurant seating require them to end outdoor service at 10 pm? That seems reasonable to me in an area that includes residences.
 
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