Parcel 12 | Massachusetts Avenue at Boylston Street | Back Bay

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While I'm over the moon to see this project go up, Parcel 13 will really need to materialize for this location to feel like a proper square imo. The noise and ambiance from the Pike is too damn strong from both sides here. Has there been any movement on that?

I too see the huge potential for a new premier location. My pipe dream would be to see Mass Ave get a street car line running down it from Central to Symphony at least. Clear up the bus stop clog that occurs there now. Honestly would love a full on replacement of the 1 Bus with a new transit line because it's such a major artery in the area. And the bigger dream of a true urban ring to fix the N-S divide seems too impossible.
 
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The square itself doesn't really have a defining name but the location is incredible.
A name can always be given once all the projects are completed. “Mel King Square”, “Menino Square”, “Ortiz Square”, or “Obama Square” maybe? The Hynes station could be renamed to match the square especially since the convention center may be sold by the time the square is built out.
 

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Pike square
Simple, yet descriptive. I like it. “Turnpike Square” has a better ring to it, though, imho.

Reminiscent of “Haymarket Square” or “Post Office Square”. Very Boston. 😁
 
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I think Turnpike Square is a brilliant name. Of course, many folks will contract it to "Pike Square," in the spirit the Massachusetts Turnpike is known by everybody as the Mass. Pike.

I've been a frequent visitor to the area since the 1980s (I worked back when at 101 Huntington). Boylston west of Hereford was a barren wasteland then and hasn't improved much since. The development of these parcels could make this a vibrant square.
 

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Alternatively, you could honor both the main corporate tenant of the square and (one of) the city’s best rapper(s) by calling it Guru Square! 😄

Edit: Is it controversial to call Guru “Boston’s best rapper”? I was writing the post, then chickened out halfway through..
 
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The biggest institution in the general area is Berklee College of Music. Could be Berklee Square or Music Square.
 

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Music square would be fantastic and it could lead to it being fleshed out and embraced by the community with constant busking
 

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Alternatively, you could honor both the main corporate tenant of the square and (one of) the city’s best rapper(s) by calling it Guru Square! 😄

Edit: Is it controversial to call Guru “Boston’s best rapper”? I was writing the post, then chickened out halfway through..
He is definitely Boston's most famous rapper (if someone replies with Donny Wahlberg, I'm gonna have an aneurysm). Guru's lyrics were creative and thoughtful, but the phrasing/cadence was rather clumsy sometimes (I always thought it was DJ Premier's production that made Gang Starr's work appealing). I can't think of anyone better, though.

I like Music Square. Encompasses the full breadth of Boston's contribution to music.
 

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He is definitely Boston's most famous rapper (if someone replies with Donny Wahlberg, I'm gonna have an aneurysm). Guru's lyrics were creative and thoughtful, but the phrasing/cadence was rather clumsy sometimes (I always thought it was DJ Premier's production that made Gang Starr's work appealing). I can't think of anyone better, though.

I like Music Square. Encompasses the full breadth of Boston's contribution to music.
EDO G most likely- he's more associated with Boston as Guru moved to NYC to pursue his music career early on and never really repped Boston
 

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While I'm over the moon to see this project go up, Parcel 13 will really need to materialize for this location to feel like a proper square imo. The noise and ambiance from the Pike is too damn strong from both sides here. Has there been any movement on that?

I too see the huge potential for a new premier location. My pipe dream would be to see Mass Ave get a street car line running down it from Central to Symphony at least. Clear up the bus stop clog that occurs there now. Honestly would love a full on replacement of the 1 Bus with a new transit line because it's such a major artery in the area. And the bigger dream of a true urban ring to fix the N-S divide seems too impossible.
Doesn't anybody build elevated rail anymore? Seems like the only solution besides subway for Mass Ave, B, C, E lines. Why Paris and New York and not Boston?
 

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Doesn't anybody build elevated rail anymore? Seems like the only solution besides subway for Mass Ave, B, C, E lines. Why Paris and New York and not Boston?
I think most urban planners consider elevated rail to be a solution of last resort. It is really unpleasant to live/work close to. It also does not create very pleasant urban streetscapes (at least in most people's eyes). Surface and underground solutions are generally preferred.
 

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Doesn't anybody build elevated rail anymore? Seems like the only solution besides subway for Mass Ave, B, C, E lines. Why Paris and New York and not Boston?
Great for pictures, terrible for the daily experience. We've been taking them down for 50 years - it would be unlikely to flip scripts now.

To the project, that onramp is going to have some tough visibility once the building goes up for a quick merge. How are they adjusting it?
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To the project, that onramp is going to have some tough visibility once the building goes up for a quick merge. How are they adjusting it?
I don’t have the plan handy, but I remember designs showing the entrance of the ramp being moved west down Newbury St.
 

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