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If they're really serious about this, they (Kraft plus Wynn) should invest in a new T line (the yellow line?) going from North Station up through Charlestown kind of along rte 99 and have some much-needed stops in Charlestown, for the stadium, then casino, and continue on up through Everett, into Malden (Granada Highlands area), and ending somewhere in Saugus near rte 1. That is a HUGE community area that desperately needs something other than painfully slow buses that take forever to get into downtown. That would alleviate a tremendous amount of the traffic that currently drives to the casino, new developments and an entertainment complex and would certainly entice people who are meh on soccer but love live sports and hate driving around there (people like me and most of my friends).

This is the same city/metro that took three decades (or four, or longer, depending on how you want to look at it) to add six stops -- six easily implemented stops (pre-existing track space/path) to the Green Line passing through the most densely populated region in the Northeast (Somerville) that needed additional T service forever.

The notion that anyone -- even extremely "well heeled" folks/organizations such as Kraft and Wynn -- will snap their fingers, open their wallets, and just like that we'll get a whole new T line is... unlikely.

I agree it'd be great to have and would get tons of use by an as-yet underserved community, but for now I'd settle for trains running at top speed without catching fire or dragging anyone to their death and for the fullfillment of the disastrous CRRC red/orange line orders.
 
This is the same city/metro that took three decades (or four, or longer, depending on how you want to look at it) to add six stops -- six easily implemented stops (pre-existing track space/path) to the Green Line passing through the most densely populated region in the Northeast (Somerville) that needed additional T service forever.

The notion that anyone -- even extremely "well heeled" folks/organizations such as Kraft and Wynn -- will snap their fingers, open their wallets, and just like that we'll get a whole new T line is... unlikely.

I agree it'd be great to have and would get tons of use by an as-yet underserved community, but for now I'd settle for trains running at top speed without catching fire or dragging anyone to their death and for the fullfillment of the disastrous CRRC red/orange line orders.
Is this not kinda the silver line proposal. It continues from Chelsea, in to Everett and down to Sullivan, even on to East Somerville down Washington st. And I've seen vague plans for a commuter rail stop at E. Somerville. So eventually take the CR in from the north and switch to the silver line for a couple of stops to Mystic Stadium!
What ever about the second part but it might be an idea to get Wynn and Kraft to help fund the silver line to Sullivan.
 
Getting back on topic, this soccer stadium obviously shouldn’t be built in a transit desert in a chemical wasteland in Everett.
Right now it's what 20 mins walk from Sullivan?
There are busses going down 99
There are water taxis
There are shuttles from wellington.

Then you add in the foot bridge from Assembly, increase water taxi services at game times, put on more shuttles from Wellington, possibly add a silver line link.
The stadium would only be used off peak. There's lots of parking at costco that's about 10 mins away. A foot bridge from the corner of the encore park to the windmill might make sense but over all it could easily be very well connected.
 
Is this not kinda the silver line proposal. It continues from Chelsea, in to Everett and down to Sullivan, even on to East Somerville down Washington st. And I've seen vague plans for a commuter rail stop at E. Somerville. So eventually take the CR in from the north and switch to the silver line for a couple of stops to Mystic Stadium!
What ever about the second part but it might be an idea to get Wynn and Kraft to help fund the silver line to Sullivan.
That's much more plausible.
 
I could see the silver line working from sullivan basically going up 99 as long as they give it a dedicated lane the whole way and have just a few designated stops/covered "stations" while still having the slow-ass bus stop more frequently and perhaps traveling in the car lane, only pulling over into the silver line lane when it needs to stop, as is the case for other silver line/regular bus overlap paths (as I've noticed in the South End particularly). I read that proposal elsewhere and it seems like a pretty obvious and relatively easy solution, but it needs to go much further out past Glendale in Everett, just all along 99 into malden, and maybe finishing by the LA Fitness/ Lowes by rte 1 and creating a turnaround there.

Having lived on that side of Malden for many years awhile back, I know just how difficult it is getting downtown from there via bus, and the suggestions Ruairi made are only workable for a much closer community just around Encore/Assembly. A longer SL extension just makes so much sense for those areas and would also help cut vehicle traffic down as I'm sure many people from the north shore along the rte 1 stretch would drive and park (I'm sure they could build a garage out near LA Fitness) in order to take the SL to Encore, the stadium, other venues planned, or even to transfer at Sullivan to get downtown. I would've killed for that back when I lived there!
 
It's not that far from the Chelsea CR stop. It's probably this+retail,etc or Lab Space for redev.
It's also not that far from Sullivan and Assembly (dependent on proposed pedestrian bridge). But at the same time, it's nowhere near as transit friendly as Fenway and the Garden, or a couple of the other locations the Krafts have talked up over the years.
 
Maybe if they electrified to Lynn they would be able to put an infill stop that would be more convenient.
 
Is this not kinda the silver line proposal. It continues from Chelsea, in to Everett and down to Sullivan
I know this [Edit: SL to Sullivan] is the leading option, but it still surprises me that there is not a plan to extend the silver line along 16 through Wellington for a stop at 93. Would directly support 93-to-airport, 93-to-orange, 93-to-soccer stadium (see we got back on topic!)
 
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Commmonnnn Bradley Campbell, you twit. Does this really hurt your sensibilities that much?

My highly technical overlay of the current layout with the new Wynn expansion and the Revs last stadium size drawing.
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Original Proposals for reference...
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Revolution South Boston proposal - blocked by Boston teacher's Union.



ALSO - we've been ignoring this one...

White Stadium Proposal in Franklin Park - ~ 10,000 seats
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Wynn is not in control anymore. A scandal has put him out of business.
 

Stealth budget amendment would override current zoning rules

Commonwealth magazine Opinion page LINK. Let the stadium happen, there will always be traffic in Sullivan Square.


Fixed link, the one above wasn't working for me. In any case, what even are these arguments:

As it stands now, state law restricts this piece of land to water-dependent industrial uses, which range from traditional port activities to the types of facilities needed to build and maintain offshore wind. These restrictions help preserve maritime uses that support our economy and clean energy goals, and they are becoming increasingly rare in Massachusetts.

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A public legislative process to assess the stadium’s impact on the environment and on communities long overburdened by pollution would have been an opportunity both to develop mitigation measures and advance the Healey administration’s stated commitment to environmental justice. It also could have brought much-needed attention and potential solutions to what is already a transportation nightmare (notably one traceable in part to Wynn’s casino), including improvements to road circulation and to Sullivan Square Station, one of the busiest (and certainly the ugliest) station on the failing T’s Orange Line.


Nuking ancient chemical storage and power plants is a good thing, and reducing diesel shipping up the Mystic actually reduces pollution to the neighborhoods in the area. Plus, all of the offshore wind support and maintenance is going to be based from the Cape. A bunch more people coming to the area via train for games would also be a good thing, and exactly the driver to improve Sullivan, which, indeed is shitty. Like so many things it's about traffic, though. I'm not even a soccer guy, but that area is a wasteland and so close to so many people. Might as well do something actually productive.
 

Fixed link, the one above wasn't working for me. In any case, what even are these arguments:

As it stands now, state law restricts this piece of land to water-dependent industrial uses, which range from traditional port activities to the types of facilities needed to build and maintain offshore wind. These restrictions help preserve maritime uses that support our economy and clean energy goals, and they are becoming increasingly rare in Massachusetts.

...

A public legislative process to assess the stadium’s impact on the environment and on communities long overburdened by pollution would have been an opportunity both to develop mitigation measures and advance the Healey administration’s stated commitment to environmental justice. It also could have brought much-needed attention and potential solutions to what is already a transportation nightmare (notably one traceable in part to Wynn’s casino), including improvements to road circulation and to Sullivan Square Station, one of the busiest (and certainly the ugliest) station on the failing T’s Orange Line.


Nuking ancient chemical storage and power plants is a good thing, and reducing diesel shipping up the Mystic actually reduces pollution to the neighborhoods in the area. Plus, all of the offshore wind support and maintenance is going to be based from the Cape. A bunch more people coming to the area via train for games would also be a good thing, and exactly the driver to improve Sullivan, which, indeed is shitty. Like so many things it's about traffic, though. I'm not even a soccer guy, but that area is a wasteland and so close to so many people. Might as well do something actually productive.
It wouldn't be that expensive or difficult to extend the existing Silverline west from Chelsea to the Sullivan station, via Everett, all on dedicated bus lanes or ROW (as has been ID'd by the MBTA and on this board). So the stadium should be built regardless of traffic issues.
 
Oh absolutely, I just mean that the resistance and the paper-thin arguments in the Commonwealth article just come down to people complaining about (hypothetical) traffic. Degrowth through traffic fears are just another veto mechanism that's killed too many otherwise good projects.
 

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