Logan Airport Capital Projects

Justbuildit said:
I was interpreting the render as a cut-through, not a top floor open to the elements. The current garage at B is ~4 stories per Google Earth, so I imagine the floors above 2 will be just normal parking as they currently are.

Not sure the exact future layout, but it's pretty hostile crossing the busy outer lanes to reach taxis/Ubers within the inner loop. The cops working traffic help a lot, but the busses, shuttles, and double parking drivers are not great.
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I've seen the drawings. You are correct.
 
I'm kind of surprised they are rebuilding this garage. After 9-11, didn't they rope off whole sections because the parking spaces were deemed too close to the terminal and planes?
 
Java King said:
I'm kind of surprised they are rebuilding this garage. After 9-11, didn't they rope off whole sections because the parking spaces were deemed too close to the terminal and planes?
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Can't resist that parking revenue I guess.
 
Java King said:
I'm kind of surprised they are rebuilding this garage. After 9-11, didn't they rope off whole sections because the parking spaces were deemed too close to the terminal and planes?
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As a regular terminal B parker, not that it actually does anything, it's the only garage where they make you open the trunk so they can see your luggage.
 
Stlin said:
As a regular terminal B parker, not that it actually does anything, it's the only garage where they make you open the trunk so they can see your luggage.
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That's wild.
 
What would it take for them to rebuild the terminal from the ground up? It seems to be the dumping ground for domestic airlines that don’t consider Boston a focus city. How did Delta handle the complete rebuild of Terminal A?
 
RandomWalk said:
What would it take for them to rebuild the terminal from the ground up? It seems to be the dumping ground for domestic airlines that don’t consider Boston a focus city. How did Delta handle the complete rebuild of Terminal A?
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Delta was in C until the current Terminal A opened circa 2005. Continental moved to C from the original A (and moved back to A eventually prior to the United merger). The original A was relatively small in terms of gates, so it wasn't as big a loss (at a time when traffic was lower than it became) as rebuilding B (or C) would be.
 
Who was in A before the demolition? I remember Eastern as a kid, but I’m drawing a blank after.
 
RandomWalk said:
What would it take for them to rebuild the terminal from the ground up? It seems to be the dumping ground for domestic airlines that don’t consider Boston a focus city. How did Delta handle the complete rebuild of Terminal A?
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Well, first it would be incredibly disruptive since (as you point out) it serves basically every domestic carrier that isn't JetBlue or Delta. Also, I actually don't think there's anything wrong with B other than low ceilings in the check-in area. The actual gate areas have been renovated to be pretty nice.

In a fantasy world, I think you'd eliminate B entirely and extend Terminal A through its footprint with a second or extended satellite running parallel. Logan probably has a lot of redundancy in curbs, gate areas, etc.
 
RandomWalk said:
Who was in A before the demolition? I remember Eastern as a kid, but I’m drawing a blank after.
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I *think* Continental was in there...someone please check me on that
(I too am old enough to remember it being the Eastern terminal)
 
bigpicture7 said:
I *think* Continental was in there...someone please check me on that
(I too am old enough to remember it being the Eastern terminal)
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Immediately before demolition, it was Continental and USAir. Eastern was the ancestral tenant, and I think they paid to build it.
 
Equilibria said:
Immediately before demolition, it was Continental and USAir. Eastern was the ancestral tenant, and I think they paid to build it.
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Thanks. Yes, it was built for Eastern. But @RandomWalk 's comment got me thinking: I knew it was still in use between the early-90s when Eastern folded and the early-aughts when it was demo'd, but only vaguely remembered who was in there. Then I remembered flying Continental out of there at least once in that timeframe - thanks for corroborating. Forgot about USAir.
I have fond childhood memories of Terminal A from when my dad and I used to pick up an aunt from the DC area who used to fly in to visit on Eastern a few times in the late-80s. It was a totally different era when you used to hang out in terminals to meet people.
 
bigpicture7 said:
Thanks. Yes, it was built for Eastern. But @RandomWalk 's comment got me thinking: I knew it was still in use between the early-90s when Eastern folded and the early-aughts when it was demo'd, but only vaguely remembered who was in there. Then I remembered flying Continental out of there at least once in that timeframe - thanks for corroborating. Forgot about USAir.
I have fond childhood memories of Terminal A from when my dad and I used to pick up an aunt from the DC area who used to fly in to visit on Eastern a few times in the late-80s. It was a totally different era when you used to hang out in terminals to meet people.
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And that terminal was really built for it. I think the replacement was in the works before 9/11 (Google Earth imagery shows cars parked on the roof right up until September 2001), but the expanded security checkpoints broke the space up terribly and looked very haphazard - I think it got to the point where there were checkpoints for 2 or 3 gates at a time.

I might have made an argument for trying to work with it as a landside space (like Terminal C) given the architecture, but the footprint wouldn't have allowed for the satellite.

My other weird nostalgic corner of the airport was the old C40-C42, particularly before JetBlue when quirky airlines like ValuJet would be in there. Along with the old Virgin America one-gate concourse, now fully subsumed into the B-C connector...
 
I worked in the old Terminal A in the mid 90's for about a year and a half. It was Continental and USAir Shuttle. The rest of US Air was in Terminal B if I remember correctly. Also Cape Air and Colgan were in the "commuter pier" extending off the rear onto the ramp.
If you search the video for the Reba song "Whoever's in New England," there is some video shot in there when Eastern still occupied it!
 
Was Piedmont also in B? They were another of the airlines I frequented while growing up.

I would love to see a gate by gate breakdown of Logan over time, to refresh my memory on all the changes and moves over the years.
 
gregrc75 said:
I worked in the old Terminal A in the mid 90's for about a year and a half. It was Continental and USAir Shuttle. The rest of US Air was in Terminal B if I remember correctly. Also Cape Air and Colgan were in the "commuter pier" extending off the rear onto the ramp.
If you search the video for the Reba song "Whoever's in New England," there is some video shot in there when Eastern still occupied it!
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I suspect, FWIW, that the reason USAir Shuttle and USAir weren't co-located has to do with the history of the... umm... Trump Shuttle. Unfortunately, we have him to thank for the Northeast Corridor shuttles Delta and American run today.
 
Equilibria said:
I suspect, FWIW, that the reason USAir Shuttle and USAir weren't co-located has to do with the history of the... umm... Trump Shuttle. Unfortunately, we have him to thank for the Northeast Corridor shuttles Delta and American run today.
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Trump Shuttle was the former Eastern shuttle, probably why that was in Terminal A, and I think it took a while until the ex-Trump Shuttle operation was merged into US Airways proper. Delta's shuttle I believe was originally Pan Am's competitor to Eastern's.
 
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