BCEC expansion | Seaport

I'm getting so jaded in my old age. All these ideas like a movie studio, library, and arboretum sound very cool. However, they seem to be the first things cut or value-engineered within these projects. The Fort Pointer on X/Twitter does a really good job of pointing out all the promised "community benefits" that get quietly removed during planning and construction. If you read the posts, you get quite upset with the planning and development process.

 
The Fort Pointer on X/Twitter does a really good job of pointing out all the promised "community benefits" that get quietly removed during planning and construction.

Agreed. He also routinely posts his (her?) thoughts in the Globe comment sections of articles on Boston development, especially Seaport/Fort Point development.
 
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Apologies for reviving this thread with a only tangentially related development but it appears that BCEC has built a park along the edge of its parking lot bordering new D Street. I have seen exactly no press releases about it so I have no idea who has built it/who funded it/why. Was built over the last 3 months.
 
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Apologies for reviving this thread with a only tangentially related development but it appears that BCEC has built a park along the edge of its parking lot bordering new D Street. I have seen exactly no press releases about it so I have no idea who has built it/who funded it/why. Was built over the last 3 months.
this is Cypher St. Its a MassDOT/Massport redesign (and extension from D St to E St). Its meant to create a more direct truck route connection between Conley Terminal and the Bypass Rd instead of using the Haul Rd, which takes you into Marine Industrial Park.

this presentation provides a good overview:
 
Thanks for sharing the slides.

Looking at them, I would think if they building "future connection" from E Street to Summer Street (which would be completely logical) then the Fargo ROW could be abandoned and not create the funky triangle parcel that would be difficult to develop down the road.
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this is Cypher St. Its a MassDOT/Massport redesign (and extension from D St to E St). Its meant to create a more direct truck route connection between Conley Terminal and the Bypass Rd instead of using the Haul Rd, which takes you into Marine Industrial Park.

this presentation provides a good overview:
No this is unrelated to that project, that project includes the road and the cycle track on the south side of the road and was completed last year, this has been built on what was formerly a row of the parking lot on the north side of the street and is solidly within BCEC property. Notice how it doesn't appear in any of those slides.

I found the project, it's the BCEC Cypher Street Beautification Project. $6.7M, I'm a little surprised I've heard exactly zero news about it. No press releases either, just hidden away in the board minutes of a subcommittee. https://s3.amazonaws.com/massconvention/pdf/meeting_resources/2024/DC_Meeting_Materials_10-10-24.pdf

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At some point in 2024 it was apparently presented to FPNA as well: https://fortpointneighborhood.org/w...0/BCEC-Beautification-FPNA-September-2024.pdf
 
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Yeah interesting. Google maps right now has the cypher redesign and cycle track shown as complete but that park is not yet created. Don’t know the story behind it, but it’s definitely new. Here’s the intermediate state. Cypher is done but no park.
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No this is unrelated to that project, that project includes the road and the cycle track on the south side of the road and was completed last year, this has been built on what was formerly a row of the parking lot on the north side of the street and is solidly within BCEC property. Notice how it doesn't appear in any of those slides.

I found the project, it's the BCEC Cypher Street Beautification Project. $6.7M, I'm a little surprised I've heard exactly zero news about it. No press releases either, just hidden away in the board minutes of a subcommittee. https://s3.amazonaws.com/massconvention/pdf/meeting_resources/2024/DC_Meeting_Materials_10-10-24.pdf

At some point in 2024 it was apparently presented to FPNA as well: https://fortpointneighborhood.org/w...0/BCEC-Beautification-FPNA-September-2024.pdf

Apologies for reviving this thread with a only tangentially related development but it appears that BCEC has built a park along the edge of its parking lot bordering new D Street. I have seen exactly no press releases about it so I have no idea who has built it/who funded it/why. Was built over the last 3 months.
I think your tone is interesting after learning about this project, and lends to the question "what is the level of outreach required"? It seems like you feel that you deserve to have known about this project from the getgo and are frustrated that you cannot find more information about it, even after the fact. Is this just based on a general interest in the outcome, a desire to have been part of the process, or are you a nearby impacted abutter that likely should have known but there was some sort of outreach failure?

I ask because I had a realization recently when I heard that an abutting neighborhood association to mine reviewed (and killed) a small redevelopment proposal. No materials posted anywhere as it was not a city-sponsored event and I'm not on email lists for neighborhoods I don't live in. I'm saddened because maybe I wanted to show some support since it's literally right around the corner and I walk by this lot daily. Should I have known or am I just interested? I think it's a similar sentiment and I don't know if our frustration for these sorts of things is warranted.
 
I think your tone is interesting after learning about this project, and lends to the question "what is the level of outreach required"? It seems like you feel that you deserve to have known about this project from the getgo and are frustrated that you cannot find more information about it, even after the fact. Is this just based on a general interest in the outcome, a desire to have been part of the process, or are you a nearby impacted abutter that likely should have known but there was some sort of outreach failure?

I ask because I had a realization recently when I heard that an abutting neighborhood association to mine reviewed (and killed) a small redevelopment proposal. No materials posted anywhere as it was not a city-sponsored event and I'm not on email lists for neighborhoods I don't live in. I'm saddened because maybe I wanted to show some support since it's literally right around the corner and I walk by this lot daily. Should I have known or am I just interested? I think it's a similar sentiment and I don't know if our frustration for these sorts of things is warranted.
I think in this specific scenario I'm mostly surprised that a public agency has built a $6M park and not bragged about it once. I'm sure there will eventually be a ribbon cutting but usually agencies are excited to brag about how they're spending public money on improvements like parks. Not even having a page on their website for it or a press release is surprising to me.

In general I do understand one can't possibly keep track of every development in a big city, I can't even keep track of the projects that I'm working on nevermind the hundreds of other ones. I do think best practice is to have a project page that someone who is seeking out information can find at least basics about a project on (timeline, funding, basic plan view)
 
I think in this specific scenario I'm mostly surprised that a public agency has built a $6M park and not bragged about it once. I'm sure there will eventually be a ribbon cutting but usually agencies are excited to brag about how they're spending public money on improvements like parks. Not even having a page on their website for it or a press release is surprising to me.

In general I do understand one can't possibly keep track of every development in a big city, I can't even keep track of the projects that I'm working on nevermind the hundreds of other ones. I do think best practice is to have a project page that someone who is seeking out information can find at least basics about a project on (timeline, funding, basic plan view)
... I think that's called humility.

Working for a different state agency (MassDOT), I can offer anecdotally that the list of projects/investments we make annually is far greater than the press or fanfare for which we receive. And I mean projects that affect everyday citizens of the Commonwealth for the better, across all modes. Like if we complete 80 to 100 federal aid highway projects in a year, I think only a fraction of them make a headline. And that's okay.

If you're pleased with the project--if the project fulfilled a need in the transportation network--then we've done our job. No need to gloat. ;)

You can learn more about projects the State is investing in by checking out the MassDOT Capital Investment Plan (CIP) and MassDOT STIP; or check out our Regional Planning webpage to learn more about the planning process/entities for many of these projects.
 
No this is unrelated to that project, that project includes the road and the cycle track on the south side of the road and was completed last year, this has been built on what was formerly a row of the parking lot on the north side of the street and is solidly within BCEC property. Notice how it doesn't appear in any of those slides.
thanks for the clarification. I thought they were 1 project since they were under construction back to back. I wouldnt say they are unrelated though, the MCCA seems like they responded to the roadway improvements by creating a nicer edge on their parcel to match. There is no way design wasnt at least started before construction of the roadway started.

Yeah interesting. Google maps right now has the cypher redesign and cycle track shown as complete but that park is not yet created. Don’t know the story behind it, but it’s definitely new. Here’s the intermediate state. Cypher is done but no park.
looking at nearmap aerials looks like the Cypher roadway work started in Q1 of 2024 finishing up in Q3 and the park started in Q4 or early 2025.
 
Expansion talks are starting up again:


The strategy spelled out in that article strikes me as an absolutely terrible idea:
Rather than just market the 2-million-square-foot MCEC and its smaller sibling in the Back Bay, the 880,000-square-foot Hynes Convention Center, to outside meeting planners, Barros wants the authority to start planning business meetings of its own. The goal would be to capitalize on sectors that the Healey administration has targeted for growth: life sciences, AI, clean tech, and robotics. Barros sees it as a way to boost the economy, build more local ties with the facilities he oversees, and tap into growing corporate demand for smaller-scale meetings.

“We need to change our business model to not just host trade shows [and] big meetings,” Barros said. “We need to program. We need to curate. ... We need to get into the meeting planning business.”

As an example, Barros told board members on Thursday that the MCCA should take the lead on convening a national event around women’s sports, given the current excitement around the topic in Boston.
There are a gazillion private organizations out there that plan events and conferences. I'm sure many of us get unsolicited emails inviting us to conferences x, y, and z in our work inboxes all the time. Why does Barros think the MCCA -- funded by our tax dollars -- will be better at this than all private players who make this their business?

If this plays out it would also be significant scope creep for the MCCA.
 
The strategy spelled out in that article strikes me as an absolutely terrible idea:

There are a gazillion private organizations out there that plan events and conferences. I'm sure many of us get unsolicited emails inviting us to conferences x, y, and z in our work inboxes all the time. Why does Barros think the MCCA -- funded by our tax dollars -- will be better at this than all private players who make this their business?

If this plays out it would also be significant scope creep for the MCCA.
Ehhh? I've been to enough of these things that I agree in principle that MCCA probably shouldn't be organizing everything, but I think there's some nuance to that. Firstly, if they're thinking to attract small-midsize conferences? A lot of those are the ones that currently end up outside the world of convention center authorities, and end up in private convention centers, resorts, and the like that can offer a "turn key" event - Just look at the various Vegas Casino convention centers, or any of the larger Orlando area resorts, or the Gaylord Resorts... I don't actually think we have a reasonable analogue in the boston area.

Going to several of these annually, and having dealt with some of these planners, it's a thing for them to keep everything under one roof, one contract so as to keep things tidy and manageable for the miniscule permanent staff at those private organizations that market and assemble these things - their focus is the 362 days of the year they're not actually hosting. They care more about organizing exhibitors, selling sponsorships, arranging speakers, marketing to attendees. I just got back to Boston from a 5-7k person event at a Gaylord - the organizers permanent event staff is 3-4 people, most of whom are in sales and marketing. They just won't want to deal with the logistics and risks of signing room blocks with 20 seaport hotels, or arrange a caterer acceptable to the MCCA to serve their attendee lunch, book a bar for karaoke as networking event or find a convention logistics company to receive booths off site and deliver assembly. The big event people plan in their daily lives is a wedding, so using that as an analogy... You can walk up to the Omni Parker House and say, One wedding package, with Flower package A and Menu B in the ballroom - it's not super inspiring, its expensive, but it's really nice and effectively seamless. that's what something like what the MGM Grand can offer. Or you can DIY it at the Saunders Castle, arrange your own florist, cake, caterer, DJ, lighting, hotel block etc - it's a lot of work managing your vendors and risk something not quite working out. That's what the MCCA offers currently - they're just the venue, and you bring everything else. I think it's reasonable for them to basically step into the role of wedding planner, where they take on the burden of finding room blocks, negotiating with hotels, clearing up any issues that may arise on the day, and managing a collection of vetted outside vendors to provide all that. The groups that can fill the BCEC on their own don't need that level of hand holding - they'd have the scale and experience, but smaller groups who might not have considered the MCCA venues previously might.

Besides... Someone other than local taxpayer is presumably going paying for that. My understanding is the MCCA only gets tax dollars from its hotel tax on rooms in designated cities - the rest comes from being paid to provide services - turn key conferences would be a service by which the MCCA could both earn more revenue from providing more "value" and by increasing utilization of its facilities.

Also, if the MCCA can identify a niche that does not already have an established conference scene, or can successfully differentiate one? It's a captive customer and therefore a guaranteed booking in Boston and the MCCAs spaces. San Diego derives much of it's weight in pop culture from hosting its comic con, now the biggest by sheer weight of its own reputation, not the other way around. That sums up a lot of professional events. There's more consumer device shows than just CES - but CES is the one to be at. There's more Fashion Weeks than New York, Milan and Paris - but no one really cares about Bostons or Ottawas. I actually think Women's Professional Sports is a great example of a potential opportunity - there's no established national conference for that industry, and it's specialized enough yet broad enough that you could attract a broad base of interested attendees and exhibitors. Women's athletic wear, panels on broadcasting challenges for women's leagues, scheduling against mens sports, sports nutrition... Endless gobs of panels and breakouts and derivative conference possibilities. MCCA is honestly probably better suited to inaugurating something like that than a newbie non-profit that may not have the buy in of a big enough chunk of the industry. It's possibly a risk, but a small and calculated one in terms of exposure... They're likely creating events to fill a space that would otherwise sit empty, so it's still marginal revenue for the MCCA and hotels to absorb otherwise excess capacity.

Keep in mind that as a general rule governments also are event planners like any major industry - OSD hosts MassBuys at Gillette, MassDOT's Transportation Innovation Conference was at DCU, the AG hosts the national cyber crime conference... It's hardly unheard of for government bodies to plan and host events, be it for other organs of government or for industry. Even if nominally funded by attendee money, why shouldn't those dollars be spent at the MCCA instead of another outside event planner or facility?

I also think something like a conference or convention is also a relatively cheap way for government to boost local industries - every state already has a menu of programs to boost local businesses, be it employment incentives, tax breaks, or direct investment. it's why we as a state have an office of International Trade, why we have a state venture capital fund, etc, etc. MassMEP, MassCEC, MassDOT aeronautics all already hosts some manner of event to do so.
 
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