Sale finalized; future development of Exxon tank farm in Everett can proceed

[KCasiglio]

Apparently, you never had to commute through/to Everett.

Do most people who commute through/to Everett live outside of 495? I would find that shocking.

Without having hard data on hand I would certainly imagine that both the majority of existing Revs fans as well as the majority of target growth demographics reside within 495.

https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Native/Isos/2023/March.aspx

"Not only are U.S. soccer fans younger, but they’re also more culturally diverse, with 40% being fans of color, per Morning Consult. MLS reports approximately 30% of its fans are Hispanic or Latino."

 

[shmessy]

Apparently, you never had to commute through/to Everett.

I have....and it is far more difficult than through Northampton. Full agreement. Driving through Northampton is also far easier than downtown Boston or Cambridge, isn't it? Yet all those silly Biotechs evidently don't "get it" do they?

Good luck getting more futbol fans 20+ times per year to anyplace outside of 495 than inside of it.

The owner of any sports team is a CAPITALIST.

 

[shmessy]

Apparently, Encore must be on the verge of bankruptcy due to no one wanting to commute through/to Everett.

...and it's revenues/profits are CRUSHING those of (outside 495) MGM Springfield.

I don't understand the point Citydweller is trying make on this.

 

[DZH22]

Foxboro is a nightmare to get to from the North Shore, and Everett is a nightmare from the South Shore. I wonder what percentage of the Revs attendance is currently derived from the Providence metro, and how the attending fanbase would change geographically with this new stadium.

 

[HenryAlan]

Foxboro is a nightmare to get to from the North Shore, and Everett is a nightmare from the South Shore. I wonder what percentage of the Revs attendance is currently derived from the Providence metro, and how the attending fanbase would change geographically with this new stadium.

Part of Kraft's analysis probably considers that Providence is getting its own soccer team. Yes, it's not MSL, but it may well take some fans from Foxboro. Everett represents a large untapped market for the Revs.

 

[dshoost88]

Foxboro is a nightmare to get to from the North Shore, and Everett is a nightmare from the South Shore. I wonder what percentage of the Revs attendance is currently derived from the Providence metro, and how the attending fanbase would change geographically with this new stadium.

MBTA/Amtrak from Providence to Back Bay; Orange line from Back Bay to Sullivan/Assembly; take 10-minute walk to stadium. The walk is no further than the walk time from parking lot to Stadium at Gillette in some cases. Actually seems fairly straight forward. Add in ferry and water taxi transport to the mix, and Hingham to Everett's looking like a really viable game-day transportation alternative for South Shore residents.

 

[Java King]

MBTA/Amtrak from Providence to Back Bay; Orange line from Back Bay to Sullivan/Assembly; take 10-minute walk to stadium. The walk is no further than the walk time from parking lot to Stadium at Gillette in some cases. Actually seems fairly straight forward. Add in ferry and water taxi transport to the mix, and Hingham to Everett's looking like a really viable game-day transportation alternative for South Shore residents.

Water taxi from Hingham is a great idea. I wonder how the Encore water shuttle from Long Wharf is doing in terms of ridership?

 

[kingofsheeba]

Unsure of where to put this but…

Amelia Earhart Dam $28 Million Redesign

State Announces $28 Million to Redesign Amelia Earhart Dam and Renovate Draw Seven Park, Improving Climate Resiliency

Investment of ARPA Funding Will Be Used to Address Risks to Surrounding Environmental Justice Communities Posed by Rising Sea Levels

SOMERVILLE — The Department of Conservation and Recreation (DCR) today announced an investment of $28 million in funding to improve climate resiliency and provide significant flood protection for the environmental justice communities surrounding the Amelia Earhart Dam (AED) on the Mystic River between Somerville and Everett and Draw Seven Park in Somerville. The projects, which are funded through the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA), include $13 million to redesign the elevation of the dam and $15 million for the renovation of Draw Seven Park including construction of a flood control berm to prevent coastal flooding.

Undersecretary for Environment Stephanie Cooper and DCR Commissioner Brian Arrigo joined the Mystic River Watershed Association (MyWRA) and local legislators in Somerville today to make the announcement. Today’s announcement is the culmination of collaborative efforts by DCR, MyWRA, community members and officials from Somerville, Cambridge and Everett to identify vulnerabilities in the area and ways to advance climate resiliency.

“The impacts of climate change are very much upon us,” said Governor Maura Healey. “It’s a priority of our administration to invest in our vital infrastructure so that our residents are protected as sea levels rise and extreme weather increases. Every dollar we spend on resilience today is an investment in our future.”

Based on a 2018 feasibility study, DCR determined that future sea level rise would inundate the AED and initiated planning efforts to eliminate flood pathways and the risk of coastal flooding in the Mystic River Watershed. The AED and Draw Seven Park projects will raise the dam and adjoining land by several feet to eliminate the Mystic River flood pathway, better protecting the surrounding areas of Arlington, Belmont, Cambridge, Everett, Malden, Medford, and Somerville from coastal flooding.

Work will include construction of a flood control berm to prevent coastal flooding, that in coordination with the AED project, will make the area more resilient to climate change. The park’s redesign includes many benefits to the community and the environment including maintaining and enhancing connections to the rest of the Mystic River Reservation, as well as to the newly completed path extension to Alford Street in Charlestown. The paths will connect Somerville to Everett and the Northern Strand Trail via the future Mystic River pedestrian bridge to Everett. The project will restore the park shoreline for stability, habitat value, and flood protection. The redesign will include inclusive and welcoming natural and recreational resources including paths for walking with viewing, bench seating, and overlook areas, a new lawn, and a renovated fishing pier. The project will also include more than 100 new trees to provide shade for visitors.

The Draw Seven project is currently in the permitting phase and is anticipated to go to bid by summer 2024, with construction expected to start in spring 2025.

 

[tysmith95]

When this site is redeveloped, it's a no brainier to extend the silver line out to it (and ideally all the way to the orange line at Wellington, Assembly or Sullivan).

 

[Charlie_mta]

When this site is redeveloped, it's a no brainier to extend the silver line out to it (and ideally all the way to the orange line at Wellington, Assembly or Sullivan).

In a rational world, the Silver Line would have already been extended out from Chelsea to Everett and then to Sullivan (my preference). There's no reason why this isn't already done, except the usual moribund political and bureaucratic quagmire.

 

[Java King]

Now, we just need to get funding for an Assembly Orange line exit/entrance to the Draw 7 park and eventual bridge to Everett.

 

[NoShJFK]

When this site is redeveloped, it's a no brainier to extend the silver Orange line and CR out to it (and ideally all the way to the orange line at Wellington, Assembly or Sullivan).

Fixed that for you

 

[NoShJFK]

In a rational world, the Silver Line would have already been converted to LRT extended out from Chelsea to Everett and then to Sullivan (my preference). There's no reason why this isn't already done, except the usual moribund political and bureaucratic quagmire.

This as well

 

[Justbuildit]

I think this is the right thread, and I don't recall seeing it anywhere else yet. Jupiter Power announced plans to build a $500M lithium ion battery storage facility at the Everett Exxon site. 20 acres down, 80 to go.

With up to 700 megawatts of capacity, enough to provide backup power for around 500,000 homes for a few hours, the Jupiter project would be among the largest such projects in New England.

Davis is removing the old oil tanks and will clean up and prepare the land for the Jupiter project, which would be located across two parcels on either side of Beacham Street. Davis envisions some housing going up on the property as well, but also wants to provide locations for research and industrial uses in the life sciences and clean-tech fields.

From oil to electricity: New Englandâs biggest battery facility could soon rise in Everett - The Boston Globe

Jupiter Power’s proposal to build grid-scale batteries across 20 acres would be among the largest such project in New England.

www.bostonglobe.com

 

[citydweller]

I think this is the right thread, and I don't recall seeing it anywhere else yet. Jupiter Power announced plans to build a $500M lithium ion battery storage facility at the Everett Exxon site. 20 acres down, 80 to go.

With up to 700 megawatts of capacity, enough to provide backup power for around 500,000 homes for a few hours, the Jupiter project would be among the largest such projects in New England.

Davis is removing the old oil tanks and will clean up and prepare the land for the Jupiter project, which would be located across two parcels on either side of Beacham Street. Davis envisions some housing going up on the property as well, but also wants to provide locations for research and industrial uses in the life sciences and clean-tech fields.

From oil to electricity: New Englandâs biggest battery facility could soon rise in Everett - The Boston Globe

Jupiter Power’s proposal to build grid-scale batteries across 20 acres would be among the largest such project in New England.

www.bostonglobe.com

I was looking for the right thread to post that article but didn't find this one. Good job. I think this initiative is very important as the region continues to expand its dependency on renewal energy (solar / wind) which can't be constant for obvious reasons.

 

[stick n move]

One thing Ive been wondering about these battery storage facilities is why do they always use lithium ion batteries? I know the main selling point is that it has the highest energy density, but when youre building something on solid ground its not as important vs an electric car or phone. Lithium ion batteries are expensive, can be dangerous and very hard to extinguish when they catch fire, but most of all the amount of charge cycles they get is not as high as other battery types before they start losing capacity.

For a grid storage site that youd want to last for decades I think charge cycle life should be one of the most important factors. The lower energy density can be mitigated by having the room to build larger facilities. Also if you have the extra room building a grid storage site out of something like lead acid batteries could probably save a huge amount of money. Am I missing something here? It seems like its pretty slow going to try to scale up these lithium ion grid storage sites, but I dont see why we cant be building hundreds of lower tech sites for cheaper as well to get some bulk capacity going.

 

[NHMaples]

One thing Ive been wondering about these battery storage facilities is why do they always use lithium ion batteries? I know the main selling point is that it has the highest energy density, but when youre building something on solid ground its not as important vs an electric car or phone. Lithium ion batteries are expensive, can be dangerous and very hard to extinguish when they catch fire, but most of all the amount of charge cycles they get is not as high as other battery types before they start losing capacity.

For a grid storage site that youd want to last for decades I think charge cycle life should be one of the most important factors. The lower energy density can be mitigated by having the room to build larger facilities. Also if you have the extra room building a grid storage site out of something like lead acid batteries could probably save a huge amount of money. Am I missing something here? It seems like its pretty slow going to try to scale up these lithium ion grid storage sites, but I dont see why we cant be building hundreds of lower tech sites for cheaper as well to get some bulk capacity going.

The lead batteries have significant fire problems of their own I hear. Right now, there are sodium-ion batteries being developed as an alternative to the Lithium. Impossible to corner the market on sodium I'd say.

 

[Stlin]

One thing Ive been wondering about these battery storage facilities is why do they always use lithium ion batteries? I know the main selling point is that it has the highest energy density, but when youre building something on solid ground its not as important vs an electric car or phone. Lithium ion batteries are expensive, can be dangerous and very hard to extinguish when they catch fire, but most of all the amount of charge cycles they get is not as high as other battery types before they start losing capacity.

For a grid storage site that youd want to last for decades I think charge cycle life should be one of the most important factors. The lower energy density can be mitigated by having the room to build larger facilities. Also if you have the extra room building a grid storage site out of something like lead acid batteries could probably save a huge amount of money. Am I missing something here? It seems like its pretty slow going to try to scale up these lithium ion grid storage sites, but I dont see why we cant be building hundreds of lower tech sites for cheaper as well to get some bulk capacity going.

I was out at Cleanpower 2024 in Minneapolis a couple of weeks ago and sat in on a talk about this. the big thing with Li-ion BESS is that it's apparently actually better at being packaged and at handling the cycle loads of a grid application than Lead Acid, and combined with the existing R&D and supply chain that enables things like EVs it's quite inexpensive these days. Keep in mind these things are built in TEUs - they're modular bits, formatted in 20ft containers, which basically are all plug and play. In 2024 that costs $148/kWh - In 2023 that was ~$180 - they are apparently are a) relatively inexpensive, and b) quick to deploy. While somewhat risky, at this point it's the best understood technology. The density of Li-ion just makes it more packable for a modular deployment, and combined with the other benefits that benefit EVs and laptops makes it a better bet than ni-cad or lead-acid for grid scale. That's especially compared to something like a redox-flow, which while likely safer and probsbly a better bet for cycled uses, would require quite a bit more R&D and capital permitting for tanks and associated infrastructure vs plopping down a field of 20ft containers. The alternate chemistries like Zinc Bromine, Sodium Sulfur etc are getting attention, but it isn't commercially ready yet. It might be in 15 years when the the first gen battery systems are ready to be replaced, but not yet.