Reasonable Transit Pitches

Speaking of station name minutiae, I'd love to see Wood Island changed back to Day Square, or at least incorporate Day Square in the name. Wood Island has definitely suffered some interference over the years, but I'd argue the station's catchment area solidly oriented towards Day Sq - at least from a commercial stand point.
 
Edgeworth was a B&M-era stop that made the 1945 proposed expansions map (but Oak Grove didn't), and that was too early for expressing considerations from the burbs to start over-spacing the stops. There was a thick net of freight sidings flanking both sides of the ROW north of Wellington running up to Adams St. that left them pretty space-constrained, and land-taking may have been the reason Edgeworth got nixed in the 70's before design had gotten very far along. Had the Western Route been completely given over to rapid transit south of Reading they were still going to retain freight service to Medford and Malden. In the 40's the plan was to reinstate an old connection from the Saugus Branch across the river at about Riverside Park (easy to see on Google how that interfaced with the Western Route) and shunt around to get to Medford. In the 70's the plan was to retain Track 4 all the way from Somerville as a super-extended Medford Branch + Commercial St. spur. That would've left them pretty constrained for spanning a station on the embankment with 3 tracks of Orange having the same CC/Sullivan/Wellington platform layout and 4th track for freight. The northernmost siding to Piantedosi Bakery was actually the very last active customer south of Wilmington, lasting to the early-2000's. Siding was only ripped out about 3 years ago, grade crossing on Commercial St. paved over last summer or fall. Now, of course, they need Track 4 between Wellington and Medford St. to get refurbished as a commuter rail passing siding to loosen up congestion so you're still looking at land-taking of residential backyards for a station until whatever decade the Reading extension goes back on front-burner and lets Track 4 finally go by the boards in favor of a faux- Somerville Community Path or something like that.


Popes Hill/Neponset/whatever-you-want-to-call-it WAS omitted because Braintree Branch was expected to serve as functionally commuter rail. After the Old Colony very suddenly went splat in '58 the attitude was that all the RR tracks into Boston would outright disappear with exception of the three semi-profitable lines that covered the bare-minimal compass points: NEC (relocated via Fairmount so I-95 could gobble the SW Corridor), B&A, NH Main. And maybe the limping-along Eastern Route for a little while, but they were hard-pressed to see that one lasting long enough to still be around when Marty McFly got into his DeLorean. So the MTA had to design Braintree right out-of-box to support future extension to Brockton that could run without being a scheduling crapshoot by the time it had to merge with Ashmont into the subway. If they knew in 1960 that the OC tracks were not only going to stay continuously active but get renewed--and ultimately successful--calls for new commuter rail 20 years later they would've baked more stations and more conventional station spacing onto the branch from the get-go.


Oh God, I can't even imagine how slow the Green Line would be with another downtown spacer. No...just no. This pretty thing called the Public Gardens tends to mitigate demand for that one very considerably by encouraging walking. Though they might want to think about rebuilding the mini Arlington headhouse on the PG corner that was knocked down in the (70's?). Would de-gunk the crosswalks quite a bit.
 
FWIW, if you CBTC-resignaled the whole Red Line to make dispatching through downtown much more precise and the SS-Kendall rush hour toilet clog easier to self-correct on flow you would loosen things up with ample margins to stick an infill stop on the branches that doesn't put any ops strain on the works. It's asking a bit much with the current state of affairs north of Columbia Jct., but the biggest boost Red can get from modern signaling (since Harvard curve still is the ruling limit on TPH) is much improved accuracy.

So I'd say, absolutely, a Dorchester infill just north of the river becomes one of the highest-ROI pieces of cost-controlled low hanging fruit to grab once you get that state-of-repair Matterhorn cut down to size. It would fill the widest walking-distance cavity to a rapid transit station in the neighborhood (draw some triangles on the map from Fields Corner-Shawmut-Ashmont to 93 and see where that cavity hits greatest extent). And it would support walking-distance TOD of that nasty 50's strip mall stretch of Morrissey Blvd. that needs to be nuked from orbit.
 
The reasonable pitch for (3) is to stop having the Green Line make those ridiculously pointless 'stops' inside the tunnel.

It's not necessary for safe train operation to do that, as thousands and thousands of train systems all over the world and the Red/Orange/Blue lines demonstrate here.

It's simply pure incompetence/deferred maintenance.
 
The reasonable pitch for (3) is to stop having the Green Line make those ridiculously pointless 'stops' inside the tunnel.

It's not necessary for safe train operation to do that, as thousands and thousands of train systems all over the world and the Red/Orange/Blue lines demonstrate here.

It's simply pure incompetence/deferred maintenance.

No, it's not. There's obstructed operator view of the next signal block because of the way the tunnel dips down en route to Arlington. If they barrel through there's rear-end collision risk because of the blind spot and limited braking distance after the blind spot. There has always been a pause there.

You need some form of automatic-stop signaling exactly like Red/Orange/Blue have to eliminate that. And that's incredibly hard to design with Green's train spacing without harming headways. It will eventually happen, but that's one you don't even attempt until a very complicated design gets checked and double-checked and quintuple-checked for Do No Harm on headways.
 
I smell bullshit.

Much heavier trains than the Green Line run in all sorts of conditions where they cannot see the signal after the current one, and without any form of PTC or CBTC. And have done so for over a century. That's why signals exist in the first place.

The signal exists to tell the train operator that the block is clear. The block is clear, the operator can enter it. Now if the stopping distance is too long, then you have a signal design that indicates whether the following two blocks are clear. Yeah, the Green Line doesn't have that. So what they could do is move at restricted speed until the next green signal. Not a full, obviously pointless stop.

It is quite obvious whenever you enter Kenmore station that there is a type of signal on the Green Line that forces the train to stop, wait 10 seconds pointlessly, and then it switches to green. And then the following signal automatically turns green whenever the block is clear, even though the train is moving at speed on a downslope right into a platform area.

The MBTA is incompetent at running light rail. Period. In this way, and in SO MANY other ways. Boarding, signal priority, signal management, vehicle design, station design, etc, etc, etc.
 
Bus Transit Pitches
an express bus that follows the route of the 325/326 turning onto I-93 just east of Medford Sq. This bus however would run from Arlington Center along rt60 (medford and high st) making the local stops of the 80 and 94 routes, notable stops being Arlington, West Medford, and Medford sq, and then entering the expressway and flooring it all the way to Boston.

327 Arlington - Haymarket EXPRESS
Runs along Medford St, High St, Medford Square, I-93, turns around at Haymarket

2. Would it make sense to run express or limited stop buses along major roads? These would be for the towns that are farther away from expressways. Example: a route from Copley sq or Downtown to Needham, expressing on Route 9 (Huntington Ave, Boylston St in Brookline and Newton) and making very few or no stops in between. This could be like compensation for commuters if the Orange Line was ever extended along the Needham Line
 
I smell bullshit.

Much heavier trains than the Green Line run in all sorts of conditions where they cannot see the signal after the current one, and without any form of PTC or CBTC. And have done so for over a century. That's why signals exist in the first place.

Yes. There have been lines operating with automatic stops for over 100 years. That's NYC Subway and every heavy rail clone in the world. And many of them--such as NYC Subway and the Blue Line--still do old-timey mechanical stops where a trip arm springs up from trackside and physically strikes a target under the train to send it into an auto-stop if the operator doesn't obey the traffic-light style wayside signals.

Green doesn't have that. There are no enforced stops; the human operator can obey or disobey the wayside signals just like they can obey or disobey a traffic light on Huntington Ave. Some other LRT systems have grade separated portions or subway portions that operate the same way. The only difference between them and the Green Line is that the Green Line is the busiest and densest-headway such example of an unenforced rapid transit line currently operating in the world.

This isn't news. You're not raising a complaint, you're just describing the basic dictionary-definition difference between ATC and non-ATC operation as it's been practiced around the world for the last 100 years..

The signal exists to tell the train operator that the block is clear. The block is clear, the operator can enter it. Now if the stopping distance is too long, then you have a signal design that indicates whether the following two blocks are clear. Yeah, the Green Line doesn't have that. So what they could do is move at restricted speed until the next green signal. Not a full, obviously pointless stop.
No, because the Green Line--being the busiest non-ATC system in the world--doesn't have a mechanism to force 100% compliance at the highest-risk spots. Before Arlington outbound you've got the downgrade and slight curve on the downgrade creating a speed-trap situation on an obstructed-view stretch where braking distance is going to be compromised by speeding potential on the grade. Escalated rear-ender risk on the Arlington platform, but also much-escalated risk of striking a passenger wandering into the platform area (which wouldn't show as a change in signals).

No auto-enforcement because the Green Line fundamentally doesn't have that, so human error has to be factored into the overall risk. This is the highest-risk such spot in the Central Subway. Therefore, there's a hazard red installed to prevent over-speeding...hazard red being the one thing 0.01% of operators won't ignore to their peril like a hazard-yellow. Road analogies: a speed bump, or stop sign or flashing-red flanking both ends of a large hill or low-hanging bridge.

It's not the only hazard red in the subway, or the only one that ever was. There used to be 2 or 3 more of them back when the Central Subway was configured for co-mingled PCC and LRV operation. Extra protection for the weight differential and braking distance differences between the two vehicle types, and reminder to an operator who could be assigned either vehicle type on any given run to remember which braking distance they were dealing with. Those signals all got removed circa 1990 when the dual-running capability got eliminated. And then a new pause got installed in '04 with the North Station relocation at bottom of the Science Park incline inbound. Right at the daylight-to-tunnel transition on that steep grade where operators would be most likely to miss next set of signals protecting North Station Yard if their eyes were still adjusting from blinding sun to the dark.

Archaic? Maybe. "Pointless?" No. Because there is no way to ensure that every operator is going to obey every signal 10,000 times out of 10,000 on a 100% human-controlled operation. When one signal block has been ID'd as a highest-risk spot there aren't many options for closing the risk loophole other than putting in signals that get obeyed without brain fart 100,000 out of 100,000. It's not an ATC-equipped operation; there's no partial- or quasi- ATC patch you can rig up for one single spot while keeping it all-human everywhere else. So what's most likely to accomplish that both with amateurs in cars on a road and professionals in trains in a subway: enforced red.

It's severe, yes. But severe-for-human-nature is all you have to work with when the signals fundamentally aren't capable of overriding the operator. That's not T incompetence. That's dictionary-definition non-ATC ops.

It is quite obvious whenever you enter Kenmore station that there is a type of signal on the Green Line that forces the train to stop, wait 10 seconds pointlessly, and then it switches to green. And then the following signal automatically turns green whenever the block is clear, even though the train is moving at speed on a downslope right into a platform area.

The MBTA is incompetent at running light rail. Period. In this way, and in SO MANY other ways. Boarding, signal priority, signal management, vehicle design, station design, etc, etc, etc.
They're so incompetent that their predecessor public agency the MTA and two-predecessors ago private company BERy had the same exact enforced stops at Arlington and Kenmore. So incompetent that the number of safety pauses has been overall reduced over the years as the vehicles have gotten more advanced.:rolleyes:

What is your point in this unfocused rant about all things Green and sucky?

The T commissioned 3 years ago a study on engineering a CBTC system for Green that would give it real enforced signaling. The results said design of such system would be insanely more complicated than originally thought if they wanted a signal system that did not harm headways...like MUNI's new ATC system and SEPTA's new ATC system did on their light rail subways. We'd all be skewering them worse if "fixing the glitch" required running only 70% as many trains. The study rec said much more advance engineering needed to be done before presenting a re-signaling design that would meet the do-no-harm service levels baseline, and to build in years extra lead time on doing that prelim engineering. Because this was an area where Green was legitimately "special" worldwide, being the densest-traffic non-ATC system in the world. They looked at it...didn't shoot first, ask questions later. And committed to giving the engineering re-study years more recommended time to find the right answer. Isn't that a competent move?

Or are we just shouting "WHARRRGARBL!" and angrily stamping feet because reasons? You can smell all the bullshit you want, but you're checking under the wrong armpit if this specific thing is what's got you all worked up.
 
The 'pause' at Kenmore has been implemented within the last ten years. Don't tell me this nonsense about BERy. I remember the Green Line running without the pointless stop that achieves NO SAFETY BENEFIT within the past 5-7 years.

I can tell you it achieves NO SAFETY BENEFIT because there's no reason to force the trolley to wait 10 seconds. Yet, that's what often happens (sometimes a little less). Congratulations, you've proven the point that the trolley can stop -- why does it have to continue sitting there? There's no reason.

Not to mention -- the pointless stop occurs on a section of superelevated track. The whole point of superelevated track is that you're supposed to be going around it at speed. Otherwise, why bother superelevating? No, because the MBTA simply added the pointless stop as part of their superstitious behavior, they didn't even bother to consider whether it made sense to have the train stopped on a section of track that is angled in such a way that it causes all standing passengers to fall over. No track geometry designer would ever expect a train to be making regularly scheduled 'pauses' on top of a superelevated section of track.

No, I think you're making excuses for them. All of these 'test the brakes' stops are nonsense. We're talking about light rail here, not heavy rail. We're talking about vehicles that can safely share the street with ordinary idiotic Masshole drivers (somehow). They're basically heavy, heavy buses. We don't see bus drivers going around doing 'brake tests' in the middle of revenue service. The only reason that trolley drivers are forced to submit to this nonsense (no other country does it) is because Americans are scared to fucking death of trolleys. They're 'different' and 'weird'. That's why we have all these wacky fences put up too -- never mind that no other trolley system in the world is surrounded by all these anti-pedestrian fences -- we're America and we're special.

Look, I expect the T to make excuses for its bullshit, but you don't have to do it for them on this forum. The T is incompetent, it does not know how to run a light rail system, and I've spent way too much of my life time trying to drag them into the 19th century (much less the 21st) so that they can catch up with fucking HOUSTON in competence! HOUSTON!!!!

Unfuckingbelievable that HOUSTON (of all places) runs a better light rail system than Boston. A fucking shame.

I'm moving away for the time being, and anyway I gave up on the Green Line last year. I bike way faster. It's really sad.

I simply have zero shits left to give. I believe deeply in the importance of transit, I wish the MBTA would stop sucking at its job, I wish that Americans would stop putting up with this shit, and I wish that the corruption that infects the place from top to bottom was cleaned out (not just in light rail operations, mind you). I tried my damn-dest to get them to do one little good thing, dragging them kicking and screaming. And they will be doing station consolidation (yay) but probably only because they couldn't meet ADA requirements otherwise.
 
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Wait. You're saying that the Houston light rail system with an average daily ridership of 45k is better than the 5x bigger 223k daily average of the T?
 
I'm saying that the Houston light rail systems averages 15 mph AT GRADE with NO TUNNELS through the middle of downtown Houston in a highly transit-unfriendly political environment.

The "B" branch manages 6-8 mph running in a dedicated lane through what is basically a suburb (of the streetcar variety). And even when it's in the tunnel, it doesn't actually manage very good average speeds. (That's when things are working -- I've been on Green Line trips that averaged under 4 mph -- faster to walk literally).

Also, can we discard this nonsense about the Boston Green Line being the 'top' light rail system in ridership. It's not even the top on this continent.

Yeah the Green Line has overcrowding problems but the mode has a great deal more capacity than the MBTA actually is able to take advantage of because their operations are so fucking unbelievably piss poor. Light rail as a mode is no slouch and can do a lot better than the Green Line does. Ride light rail where it's implemented properly to see how cleanly it can operate in places where they aren't burdened by the ridiculous behavior and NIH syndrome of the T. It's mind-shattering. Houston is just one example, one particularly embarrassing (to us) example I think, but just one.
 
The 'pause' at Kenmore has been implemented within the last ten years. Don't tell me this nonsense about BERy. I remember the Green Line running without the pointless stop that achieves NO SAFETY BENEFIT within the past 5-7 years.

There has been a pause outside Kenmore for the 19 years since I've been living in Boston.

And, yes, pauses have existed since the beginning of a signal system. Put your thumbs in your ears and scream "NO! NO! NO! Things only started sucking when I say they did!" all you want, it doesn't change that fact.

I can tell you it achieves NO SAFETY BENEFIT because there's no reason to force the trolley to wait 10 seconds. Yet, that's what often happens (sometimes a little less). Congratulations, you've proven the point that the trolley can stop -- why does it have to continue sitting there? There's no reason.
I just explained the official reason. You don't have to agree with it, but as with the fact that it pre-dates your grandparents' time you can't deny its official existence.

Not to mention -- the pointless stop occurs on a section of superelevated track. The whole point of superelevated track is that you're supposed to be going around it at speed. Otherwise, why bother superelevating? No, because the MBTA simply added the pointless stop as part of their superstitious behavior, they didn't even bother to consider whether it made sense to have the train stopped on a section of track that is angled in such a way that it causes all standing passengers to fall over. No track geometry designer would ever expect a train to be making regularly scheduled 'pauses' on top of a superelevated section of track.
Superstition? OK, now we're getting into crazytown here.

No, I think you're making excuses for them. All of these 'test the brakes' stops are nonsense. We're talking about light rail here, not heavy rail. We're talking about vehicles that can safely share the street with ordinary idiotic Masshole drivers (somehow). They're basically heavy, heavy buses. We don't see bus drivers going around doing 'brake tests' in the middle of revenue service. The only reason that trolley drivers are forced to submit to this nonsense (no other country does it) is because Americans are scared to fucking death of trolleys. They're 'different' and 'weird'. That's why we have all these wacky fences put up too -- never mind that no other trolley system in the world is surrounded by all these anti-pedestrian fences -- we're America and we're special.
Really, really into crazytown here.

Look, I expect the T to make excuses for its bullshit, but you don't have to do it for them on this forum. The T is incompetent, it does not know how to run a light rail system, and I've spent way too much of my life time trying to drag them into the 19th century (much less the 21st) so that they can catch up with fucking HOUSTON in competence! HOUSTON!!!!

Unfuckingbelievable that HOUSTON (of all places) runs a better light rail system than Boston. A fucking shame.

I'm moving away for the time being, and anyway I gave up on the Green Line last year. I bike way faster. It's really sad.

I simply have zero shits left to give. I believe deeply in the importance of transit, I wish the MBTA would stop sucking at its job, I wish that Americans would stop putting up with this shit, and I wish that the corruption that infects the place from top to bottom was cleaned out (not just in light rail operations, mind you). I tried my damn-dest to get them to do one little good thing, dragging them kicking and screaming. And they will be doing station consolidation (yay) but probably only because they couldn't meet ADA requirements otherwise.

Wow. Just wow.
 
I'm saying that the Houston light rail systems averages 15 mph AT GRADE with NO TUNNELS through the middle of downtown Houston in a highly transit-unfriendly political environment.

The "B" branch manages 6-8 mph running in a dedicated lane through what is basically a suburb (of the streetcar variety). And even when it's in the tunnel, it doesn't actually manage very good average speeds. (That's when things are working -- I've been on Green Line trips that averaged under 4 mph -- faster to walk literally).

Also, can we discard this nonsense about the Boston Green Line being the 'top' light rail system in ridership. It's not even the top on this continent.

Yeah the Green Line has overcrowding problems but the mode has a great deal more capacity than the MBTA actually is able to take advantage of because their operations are so fucking unbelievably piss poor. Light rail as a mode is no slouch and can do a lot better than the Green Line does. Ride light rail where it's implemented properly to see how cleanly it can operate in places where they aren't burdened by the ridiculous behavior and NIH syndrome of the T. It's mind-shattering. Houston is just one example, one particularly embarrassing (to us) example I think, but just one.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_light_rail_systems_by_ridership

Facts are a superstitious, conspiratorial, and excuse-making lot, aren't they?:rolleyes:

And don't go citing Toronto Streetcar's ridership as proof of this grand conspiracy 90-years-retroactively deployed by the MBTA to inflict ruin and pestilence on the city. Toronto's a 95% surface streetcar system with distributed routes, no mainline, and only 2 subway segments with the longest dedicated ROW being 2000 ft. long with 1 station in it. There is no resemblance whatsoever in their ops.
 
Matthew did say continent, not United States...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_American_light_rail_systems_by_ridership

And before you go off on Toronto again, MBTA Green Line is #4 on that list, and your statements don't apply to Guadalajara and CTrain.

Nobody "went off" on Toronto. It's a mainline-less system with no collector-distributor lines, pretty much the only such example left of that level of downtown streetcar ops purity. There's not even a passing resemblance there to the Green Line.

Fair point on Calgary and Guadalajara, but that doesn't make that rant any less inaccurate, dishonest, or generally unhinged.
 
I have to say I agree with Matthew about the mandatory and seemingly unnecessary pauses that the Green Line takes, especially underground. I'll wait 10+ minutes for a train, and then as soon as it leaves the station, it hits a red light where it must stop for a few seconds and then go. I can guarantee there are no other trains there. I just waited 10 minutes with no vehicles going by! Why are these signals so dumb!?
 
F-line has simply resorted to personal attacks now. He has no response to my points.

a) I remember when the 'pauses' were implemented going down into Kenmore. It's not 'ancient' at all. It's relatively new.

b) The pause before descending into Kenmore occurs on a section of superelevated track, causing standing passengers to fall over. No sane designer would ever intend for the train to always come to a rest on superelevated track. That should only happen during unusual circumstances. The whole point of superelevation is to make going around curves at speed a comfortable experience for riders.

c) The pauses were implemented as a workaround for signal system shortcomings but there is zero evidence that forcing the train to wait 10 seconds at various points along the trip actually helps with safety. That's why it's called superstition. It's not scientific.

d) The Green Line is losing ridership every year for the past 5-6 years, in opposition to the trend of increasing ridership across most rapid transit lines, especially here. Public transit is the safest mode of transportation, so if people are giving up on the Green Line to switch to other modes because the train is too slow, then that's an increase in risk to public health for no good reason. The T may not care about that, but other people do.

e) The MBTA never tries to fix the deep, longstanding problems with the Green Line, but instead just patches things up as quickly as possible and moves on. Even if the deep fix would actually save money, they still refuse to do it (e.g. signal priority, all-door boarding, and even OPTO). Any attempt to fix the organizational problems of the Green Line get shot down by the old guard for political reasons. The only things that make progress are those backed up by the threat of lawsuits, and those only grudgingly.

The T is its own worst enemy.
 
I have to say I agree with Matthew about the mandatory and seemingly unnecessary pauses that the Green Line takes, especially underground. I'll wait 10+ minutes for a train, and then as soon as it leaves the station, it hits a red light where it must stop for a few seconds and then go. I can guarantee there are no other trains there. I just waited 10 minutes with no vehicles going by! Why are these signals so dumb!?

Because they have to be fail-safe at the high-risk spots, and the only completely fail-safe way to do it is mandatory reds that Larry Leadfoot can't game when he's running late. Like I mentioned a few posts up, the Arlington approach can be all-clear of trains many blocks ahead but the speed trap of that incline and the obstructed view is going to compromise the braking distance if a passenger at the station is in the track area. It's enforced in draconian fashion because even one-in-a-million odds are too much on a non-ATC line that's so extremely busy it racks up millions of train movements faster than any other system.

It's a constriction. But it's not a stupid one when tabulating the odds. They did that math 90 years ago when Green got its first signal system. There's no conspiracy, no present-day incompetence behind it. To the degree it's become a problem it's because of stressors outside the Central Subway like collapsing branch schedules and equipment failures making schedules dead-on-arrival and shot of all margin for error before they even hit their first subway signal blocks. THAT you can criticize them for with all the bile you can muster. Pitching a screaming fit about the very existence of non-ATC signals and fail-safe practices therein isn't screaming anywhere in the direction of what MBTA incompetence is doing wrong today. Pitching a screaming fit about the signal layout and conspiracies therein is a great way to completely miss the boat on what the T should be skewered for and make oneself look like a crazy person in the process.


It is what it is for as long as the Central Subway remains 100% operator-controlled. Which it will not be forever, but their very recent study on computer-based signaling showed how hard that was going to be to implement. It's going to take more time than anyone previously anticipated to get it right, lots more money than anyone previously anticipated to get it right, and a lot more precision engineering to get it right. Because if they don't get a hole-in-one it will fatally harm headways. SEPTA and MUNI designed their light rail ATC retrofits without precision, and it kneecapped their headways. The T can't afford to make the mistakes MUNI and SEPTA did because their headways are so much denser than MUNI's and SEPTA's. If you want to see a screaming fit, implement a state-of-the-art auto-stop system that eliminates those enforced stops...but only allows three-quarters the throughput. That would be a disaster. If they're going to do it, they better damn well get it precisely right before touching one thing with new Jetsons-shit signaling tech, and have ironclad proof in advance that service levels will not be compromised by going ATC.

We don't have that proof yet. It'll take years more study to figure it out. So be careful what you wish for out of haste when "pointless" reds under human control are what allows the headways to be as dense as they are. In the meantime there are MANY, MANY things the T can do to decrapify the Green Line. Most of them involving fixing the branch bunching from hell and a ten-miles-long list of other deficiencies and oversights that have nothing to do with downtown signaling.
 
F-line has simply resorted to personal attacks now. He has no response to my points.

a) I remember when the 'pauses' were implemented going down into Kenmore. It's not 'ancient' at all. It's relatively new.

b) The pause before descending into Kenmore occurs on a section of superelevated track, causing standing passengers to fall over. No sane designer would ever intend for the train to always come to a rest on superelevated track. That should only happen during unusual circumstances. The whole point of superelevation is to make going around curves at speed a comfortable experience for riders.

c) The pauses were implemented as a workaround for signal system shortcomings but there is zero evidence that forcing the train to wait 10 seconds at various points along the trip actually helps with safety. That's why it's called superstition. It's not scientific.

d) The Green Line is losing ridership every year for the past 5-6 years, in opposition to the trend of increasing ridership across most rapid transit lines, especially here. Public transit is the safest mode of transportation, so if people are giving up on the Green Line to switch to other modes because the train is too slow, then that's an increase in risk to public health for no good reason. The T may not care about that, but other people do.

e) The MBTA never tries to fix the deep, longstanding problems with the Green Line, but instead just patches things up as quickly as possible and moves on. Even if the deep fix would actually save money, they still refuse to do it (e.g. signal priority, all-door boarding, and even OPTO). Any attempt to fix the organizational problems of the Green Line get shot down by the old guard for political reasons. The only things that make progress are those backed up by the threat of lawsuits, and those only grudgingly.

The T is its own worst enemy.

Matthew, you chucked out a post flinging accusations of agency conspiracies and willful apologists for them. You pre-emptively shut down any notion that this was going to be a rational discussion by making it crystal clear that any counterpoints contrary to your own intensely-held beliefs was part of the conspiracy and to be attacked as part of the conspiracy. Or whatever it is the T is intentionally doing by malicious placement of a red light. So what exactly was the point in bringing this up for open discussion on a message board when clearly you don't think there's anything to discuss or any other opinion that isn't an affront to your belief? Baiting an argument?

Calm down and get over your self-righteousness. If it's that big and irredeemable an affront to humanity, then you did the right thing by leaving Boston and the rest of us are all rubes for continuing to pay a subway fare to ride this atrocity. Glitch fixed, no?
 
You have never provided a solid rationale for those pauses and instead resorted to personal attacks straight away. You ignore and continue to ignore all of my points about how there is no sensible nor scientific reason that can be discerned for their methods.

You aren't obligated to provide a rationale for the pauses. It's not your job. But you don't have to attack me personally, either.

Are there worse things than the pauses? Absolutely, which is why I focused most of my advocacy efforts around things like all-door boarding. That doesn't justify the pauses. I gave all the reasons that they don't make sense, and I won't waste my time reiterating to only have you ignore me again.

I do recommend that people get a chance to travel every so often and see how things are done in other places. Bostonians (and Americans, in general) seem to suffer from an acute case of "Not Invented Here" syndrome. Any improvement, any innovation, any sensible way of doing things that wasn't invented here may as well not exist. It's good to actually get out there and see that transit doesn't have to be run as terribly as the T.
 

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