Northeastern University - Institutional Master Plan

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White Hall replacement

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Is there a design and timetable for the new building?
 
I'm still not thrilled with the exterior look, but I really like the design of the rink. It's very cool that they kept the balconies, even if they're smaller than what Matthews has. It's the sort of little touch that make the arena, and thus the Huskies, feel like a big deal, and it will still be unique among the other Hockey East rinks for having them. It looks like the type of arena that not only other NCAA programs, but also Canadian Major Junior teams, would be jealous of.
 
The thumbnail mentions a completion date of 2028, but the article gives no time frame.

Speaking of completion dates, what is going on with the huge 840 Columbus residence hall to be built by ACC? it received final approval from the City of Boston almost a year ago, yet construction has not started?
 
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Arenacale said:
I'm still not thrilled with the exterior look, but I really like the design of the rink. It's very cool that they kept the balconies, even if they're smaller than what Matthews has. It's the sort of little touch that make the arena, and thus the Huskies, feel like a big deal, and it will still be unique among the other Hockey East rinks for having them. It looks like the type of arena that not only other NCAA programs, but also Canadian Major Junior teams, would be jealous of.
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I hope the acoustics of the inside are somehow considered. I want that place to be so, so raucous during hockey games.
 
It looks like they'll keep and incorporate the decorative arch. That's good. The execution..... maybe fine.
 
stick n move said:
I actually like the way they put the arch inside instead of just building a modern building around it and having the random old arch in the facade. It always comes out tacky.
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What I'm hoping is this is a theme throughout the building - honoring Matthews' past and/or NEU/Boston history in some way. A nice touch would be some history incorporated into the lobby maybe?
 
4,050 seats for hockey and 5,300 for basketball. I have never been to watch either sport at Northeastern but I assume the hockey games must be more popular, right? It's a more competitive team overall, with legitimate national title aspirations compared to the basketball team.

4,050 is pretty small though. For instance BC sits 7,884, BU 6,150, and UML up to 6,500 at the Tsongas Arena. Harvard only fits 3,095 but isn't part of Hockey East.

Actually, here's a chart I just found for all the Hockey East Arenas with slightly different numbers given for BU (chart is partway down the link):
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Hockey East - Wikipedia

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Since when is Holy Cross considered part of Hockey East? (EDIT: Looks like that's just for women's hockey)

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DZH22 said:
4,050 seats for hockey and 5,300 for basketball. I have never been to watch either sport at Northeastern but I assume the hockey games must be more popular, right? It's a more competitive team overall, with legitimate national title aspirations compared to the basketball team.

4,050 is pretty small though. For instance BC sits 7,884, BU 6,150, and UML up to 6,500 at the Tsongas Arena. Harvard only fits 3,095 but isn't part of Hockey East.

Actually, here's a chart I just found for all the Hockey East Arenas with slightly different numbers given for BU (chart is partway down the link):
en.wikipedia.org

Hockey East - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Since when is Holy Cross considered part of Hockey East? (EDIT: Looks like that's just for women's hockey)

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I think, like UConn, Providence, and Merrimack, there's not much of an appetite for this arena to hold many events outside of Northeastern sports. Agganis is bigger but it also holds concerts and other shows. In that sense, this building is right-sized.
 
DZH22 said:
4,050 seats for hockey and 5,300 for basketball. I have never been to watch either sport at Northeastern but I assume the hockey games must be more popular, right? It's a more competitive team overall, with legitimate national title aspirations compared to the basketball team.

4,050 is pretty small though. For instance BC sits 7,884, BU 6,150, and UML up to 6,500 at the Tsongas Arena. Harvard only fits 3,095 but isn't part of Hockey East.

Actually, here's a chart I just found for all the Hockey East Arenas with slightly different numbers given for BU (chart is partway down the link):
en.wikipedia.org

Hockey East - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Since when is Holy Cross considered part of Hockey East? (EDIT: Looks like that's just for women's hockey)

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It might be a limitation of the footprint. Current Matthew’s Arena has the rink and seats taking up most of the stretch between Mass Ave and Gainsborough with only a little bit on the Mass Ave side dedicated to concessions. Likewise, there’s maybe a little bit of room between the arena and St. Botolph but not a lot against the train tracks.

Without being able to increase the size of the building, it makes sense that they can’t increase capacity to match the stadiums at BC or BU.

As for basketball/hockey, the latter is more popular. I think the reason there’s more capacity for basketball games is that the school can fit extra rows of seating court-side with the rink covered.
 
Arenacale said:
I think, like UConn, Providence, and Merrimack, there's not much of an appetite for this arena to hold many events outside of Northeastern sports. Agganis is bigger but it also holds concerts and other shows. In that sense, this building is right-sized.
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This is my thinking - this might be the right size for hockey-specific events. Agganis and the Tsongas Center typically weren't filling up on game days a few years ago. And the basketball court having more seats is a symptom of the court size, likely not attendance demand.
 
The Ivy League and NESCAC hockey arenas are basically all smaller, including for competitive schools...
 
Some additional massing renderings regarding upcoming housing projects (White Hall replacement and Burstein/Rubenstein replacement) and academic projects (Cabot and Science Quad) included in Apr 17 and May 01 presentations.

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TL;DR: Welcome mats are the word of the day
 
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Demolishing that huge building on Greenleaf would be a legitimate loss. It would make the area feel a lot less urban and a lot more like anycampus USA.
 
Zash said:
Some additional massing renderings regarding upcoming housing projects (White Hall replacement and Burstein/Rubenstein replacement) and academic projects (Cabot and Science Quad) included in Apr 17 and May 01 presentations.

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Wait a minute! The IMP that was published last year showed Mugar and Cullinane demolished and Hurtig spared. Now it shows Hurtig and Cullinane demolished and Mugar spared and to be renovated? They have changed it!
 
Jeremi said:
Demolishing that huge building on Greenleaf would be a legitimate loss. It would make the area feel a lot less urban and a lot more like anycampus USA.
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The old UR Complex: Nightingale, Holmes, Lake and Meserve Hall. Inside it is a rabbit warren of offices. Although I would hope that they would do a facadectomy for at least a portion of the complex.
 
TomOfBoston said:
The old UR Complex: Nightingale, Holmes, Lake and Meserve Hall. Inside it is a rabbit warren of offices. Although I would hope that they would do a facadectomy for at least a portion of the complex.
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Universities need places like that!
 
TomOfBoston said:
The old UR Complex: Nightingale, Holmes, Lake and Meserve Hall. Inside it is a rabbit warren of offices. Although I would hope that they would do a facadectomy for at least a portion of the complex.
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I loved that labyrinth and how the buildings were all sort of connected through those narrow halls with thin, cheap carpet on the floor. All my science profs were in the hulking Egan, Mugar, and Hurtig, while all my liberal arts profs were in the labyrinth. I distinctly remember coming in one door and getting lost and leaving somewhere else.
 
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