Better MBTA Station Names

1982-85 Kendall station was named MIT/Cambridge Center officially. Change took effect same time Columbia was renamed JFK/UMass. They un-did the name change back to Kendall after 3 years due to (un)popular demand.

...and then in 2015, Boston Properties renamed the Cambridge Center development to be Kendall Center anyways. Thus pointing to both the fragile impermanence of corporate marketingspeak names, and to the enduringness of what the general public tends to refer to things as notwithstanding the former.

(and here I refer to Boston Properties as Boston Properties even though they want to be called BXP now...and I and everyone else will always refer to their "200 Clarendon" as the Hancock Tower. Maybe the real take-away of all of this is: don't let Boston Properties name anything).
 
I mean, at the end of the day there are *some* institutions that are functionally eternal that will never move. Not convention centers, office parks or residential developments, but things like hospitals, museums and major universities- their campuses and locality are in of themselves neighborhood anchors, and have substantial permanence that will be enduring.

Harvard Square will always be dominated by the fact that Harvard is right there - that Yard is going nowhere. Nor will BU, BC, Northeastern, the MFA or the Boston Symphony, or MGH - they all have been where they are for over a hundred years (MGH for 2), and in all likelihood, will be there for a hundred more. Marking them in station names in some way, at least as a "Place/Institution", ala Kendall/MIT or Charles/MGH is generally just good and helpful wayfinding information. As far as Tufts Medical Center goes - the institution remained, with only the name on the door changed. So long as Tufts values the Tufts branding, it's unlikely to change again anytime soon.

Granted, BU can go down to a single station named after it with stop consolidation, and some of the existing "/" stops can be standardized or modified by dropping one half or the other. Ie, why Brandeis/Roberts or Science Park/West End, if the convention is "Place/Institution,” stick to it (in a spectacular piece of pedantry) and what is Roberts anyways? Google maps certainly has no idea. Same thing for the "/ Route 495"s. They're hardly the only 495 park and rides, so why call it out? (And why ”Route” 495?)

and finally, for an actual stop name proposal: amend the name of Airport to include Logan in some way, because no local really tends to refer to it by any other name.
 
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I mean, at the end of the day there are *some* institutions that are functionally eternal that will never move. Not convention centers, office parks or residential developments, but things like hospitals, museums and major universities- their campuses and locality are in of themselves neighborhood anchors, and have substantial permanence that will be enduring.

But hospitals do change their name, as NEMC did (and as MGH's parent company has). Universities do too - UMass Lowell was University of Lowell until 1991.
 
and what is Roberts anyways? Google maps certainly has no idea

Roberts is ostensibly the name of the nearby neighborhood, but apart from real estate websites I don't think it's used much. (That was my regular commuting stop for a while, and, uh, I never knew - or cared - what it was referencing.)

and finally, for an actual stop name proposal: amend the name of Airport to include Logan in some way, because no local really tends to refer to it by any other name.

Eh, I like it as it is. It's simple and straightforward, and doesn't confuse the station with the airport proper (and it's not like it's all that close to the terminals). As a matter of wayfinding, having it specifically say "Airport" is as clear as it gets that this is the (non-Silver Line) RT stop to access the airport.
 
I mean, at the end of the day there are *some* institutions that are functionally eternal that will never move...

You mean that article I read about Harvard being acquired by University of Phoenix Online was fake news??
 
Roberts is ostensibly the name of the nearby neighborhood, but apart from real estate websites I don't think it's used much. (That was my regular commuting stop for a while, and, uh, I never knew - or cared - what it was referencing.)

From a few minutes of research (which I'll now be adding to Wikipedia), it appears the stop and neighborhood were originally Robert's Crossing after John Roberts (1802-1871), who had a paper mill on South Street at Stony Brook. It was very common back in the day for smaller stations to be named for nearby landowners - Newtonville was once Hull's Crossing, and Wellesley Farms once Rice's Crossing. The "Crossing" and the apostrophe were eventually dropped as names were standardized.* Prides Crossing was a rare case where the "Crossing" survived into the modern era. The MBTA modified a number of station names for clarity around 1977 (Canton to Center Center, etc); "Brandeis" was tacked on to the beginning of Roberts.

* The U.S. Board on Geographic Names has long insisted on eliminating apostrophes from the official federal names of places. Only five exemptions have been granted, the best-known of which is in Massachusetts.
 
From a few minutes of research (which I'll now be adding to Wikipedia), it appears the stop and neighborhood were originally Robert's Crossing after John Roberts (1802-1871), who had a paper mill on South Street at Stony Brook. It was very common back in the day for smaller stations to be named for nearby landowners - Newtonville was once Hull's Crossing, and Wellesley Farms once Rice's Crossing. The "Crossing" and the apostrophe were eventually dropped as names were standardized.* Prides Crossing was a rare case where the "Crossing" survived into the modern era. The MBTA modified a number of station names for clarity around 1977 (Canton to Center Center, etc); "Brandeis" was tacked on to the beginning of Roberts.

* The U.S. Board on Geographic Names has long insisted on eliminating apostrophes from the official federal names of places. Only five exemptions have been granted, the best-known of which is in Massachusetts.

Incidentally, the maps of Waltham neighborhoods that I can find on Google do show "Roberts" as one of them.
 
This is a silly question, but: is there a potential alternate name for Shawmut station on the Ashmont Branch? I was working on a crayon map, and realized that it'd be nice to have "Shawmut" available for a station at/along Shawmut Ave in the South End/South Cove. I've tried to find nearby landmarks for the current Shawmut station, but there isn't much. The best I can see is that the station happens to be located on a short street called "Clementine Park", so... "Next stop, Clementine. The destination of this train is Ashmont" ?

(To be clear, I'm not actually proposing that Shawmut station be renamed, though I will admit that "Clementine" sounds charming -- I really am only asking for crayoning purposes.)
 
I'm not sure what the history is behind using the Shawmut name for that station. Generally, I associate the word with the original, pre-landfill, pre-annexation Boston, of which this station is clearly not in. Definitely not a lot of great place-making options there, but I think I'd go with Centre St/Codman if there was a need to change names. Centre St is the closest meaningful street to the headhouse, and is the main walking route from the station to Codman Square, hence the co-branding.
 
I'm not sure what the history is behind using the Shawmut name for that station. Generally, I associate the word with the original, pre-landfill, pre-annexation Boston, of which this station is clearly not in.
Right??? Maybe @The EGE knows.

Codman is an interesting option. It’s as close to the square as some of the GLX stations to their squares (I think). Centre Ais, as a rule, always going to be one of the worst possible station names anywhere, IMO, but co-branding with Codman could work.

Probably I’d lean toward “Codman” for concision, and leave it slightly vague whether it’s named for the square or for the “Codman neighborhood” (which technically does not exist, as far as I know, but hey it wouldn’t be the first time a station named a neighborhood rather than the reverse).

Though I do remain charmed by “Clementine”.
 
"Shawmut" came into use in 1884, when two separate stations were merged. Served as a commuter rail station until 1926, then reopened as a rapid transit station in 1928. I can't imagine any real justification for changing a 140-year old station name when nothing has changed in the area to need such a change. Having "Shawmut" on the Red Line and "Shawmut Avenue" on some other line would not be a disaster, any more than having "Harvard" and "Harvard Avenue" currently is.
 
Probably I’d lean toward “Codman” for concision, and leave it slightly vague whether it’s named for the square or for the “Codman neighborhood” (which technically does not exist, as far as I know, but hey it wouldn’t be the first time a station named a neighborhood rather than the reverse).
The Codman Square Neighborhood Council considers itself to cover issues at Shawmut, as evidenced by their weighing in against a proposed apartment building across the street from the station. So if they think it's Codman, it could work. But I agree with @The EGE in that there is no real reason to change it.
 
Oh yeah, like I said, this isn't a serious proposal -- it's just for crayon map purposes. So, if I ever do finish building a map that has a "Shawmut" station (not "Shawmut Ave", I really prefer the style without the "Ave"/"St" etc) in the South End/South Cove, I'll just change the Ashmont Branch station to "Codman" -- the same as I'd do with an extension to the town of Arlington therefore entailing a rename of Arlington station to "Public Garden".
 
I think we should rename Shawmut ... and call it 'Randy'.
No real reason.
I mean, there are a lot of last names out there. Maybe use a first name just this once. And abbreviated. For funzies.

Or Clementine

Whatever we call it, it should at least have a damn T lollipop sign on Centre Street. Maybe ridership might double if people know there's an actual T STOP THERE! Low hangin' fruit here, people!
 
Resurrecting this thread to post my opus reply to @TheRatmeister, @The EGE and @Teban54's discussions in the sh!tposting thread. Yes, some of my discussion remains in the non-serious sphere of sh!tposting, but a fair amount of it is straightforwardly sincere, so I feel fine posting it here.

What if we renamed every single stop? View attachment 62632
I've had this tab open for a month because I kept wanting to come back to this to reply, because I absolutely love this map. I agree with a lot of what has already been said in subsequent discussion, though I may highlight some particular points.

One thing I do really like about this map is how it ends up avoiding using street names for stations. This has emerged as such an overriding convention that we rarely seem to question it these days, but in my opinion it actually doesn't make a lot of sense. As a general rule, streets are not places, they are ways. There are obviously many many exceptions to this; for example, Newbury St is both compact enough and cohesive enough that it coalesces into a place (a sort of microneighborhood -- the kind of place that is sometimes branded a "District," e.g. "Newbury St District").

But most transit stations named after streets are named after major streets which, by definition, connect multiple places. It's inherantly imprecise, like being given only the latitude of your destination, unless you have some additional information that allows you to infer the longitude. (It also creates problems at transfers -- one service's "42nd St" is another's "8th Ave".)

My hunch is that this convention (insofar as it exists in North America) emerged from originating practices in New York and Chicago, and to a lesser extent Philadelphia and Boston. I've always been baffled how it can work to have, for example, six stations named "Western", including two on the same line! But Chicago and Manhattan (and to decreasing extents, Brooklyn, the Bronx, and Queens) all feature extremely strong street grids and rapid transit routes that hew to major arterials. Particularly in earlier days, when it was more common to refer to "Eighth Avenue Locals" etc, the line itself provided the second half of the x, y coordinates. In that context, a street name is sufficiently disambiguating.

Philadelphia and Boston's early system demonstrate the related scenario where street names are less ambiguous: when there is only a single route along a particular dimension. Philadelphia had the Broad St El and the Market-Frankford Line forming a cross; Boston had the Washington St El and the Cambridge-Dorchester Subway, also forming a cross. In such networks, the entirety of, say, Dover St, will only have one station, which minimizes ambiguity.

However, note that three of those four examples still used the name of the arterial in the name of the service. And in Boston, the services that didn't -- the Cambridge-Dorchester Subway and the Charlestown El -- used almost no street names, instead using the names of squares.

Taken together, this points to street names only being suitable if one or more of the following conditions apply:
  1. The name of the arterial is included in the name of the service itself
  2. The service is the only one of its kind in the area
  3. The service hews so unflinchingly to a major arterial that it become inextricably associated with it in the mind of the riding public
The most jarring example where these conditions are not met is the New Bedford Line's Church Street Station. This station faces the additional challenge of scope, as @The EGE put it: the broadness of a station name should reflect the broadness of the mode. Against the criteria above, only the second one applies, and that criterion is the weakest in my opinion.

("Church Street" is also puzzling because the eponymous street isn't actually a cross-street -- rather, it's one that runs parallel to the ROW for almost three miles. This makes me wonder if there are hopes for a "Church Street District", anchored by TOD in the large lots by the station. On paper, though, the station name seems incongruous, and I argue it's due to its failure to meet the criteria above.)

I think this is also why "Eastern Avenue" feels unsatisfying. Only the second criterion potentially applies, but that is diluted by the 116 having a stop at the other end of Eastern Ave; busway notwithstanding, the two services are very similar. On the other hand, it is a difficult spot to choose a name for since it historically has been on the edge of Chelsea's residential neighborhoods. Even today, the majority of its surroundings are devoted to Logan parking. So I think it's simultaneously true that "Eastern Avenue" may be the best name for the stop and still be unsatisfying.

Anyway, enough of me going on about theory of transit stop naming. [continued below]
 
Some station names that I like better than current ones:
  • Transfer stations: City Hall
In general, I really prefer this name (least of all because it's short and easy to fit on a map). That being said, Cambridge City Hall is quite close to Central, Chelsea City Hall is quite close to Bellingham Square station (arguably closer than the square), and Somerville City Hall is basically at Gilman Square station. Calling it "Boston City Hall" or "City Hall Plaza" feels like a mouthful and not that much better than Gov't Center, which at least is unique.

"Court" could work, but it would be annoying to transit historians. (Hardly a dealbreaker.) "Pemberton" could also work, but the square is literally not visible from the station. (Plus it's a longer name.)
  • Red Line: Fort Point, Columbia
"JFK/UMass" at least is unique, even if the connection to the JFK Library is a bit opaque. I wouldn't mind it being renamed after Columbia Road... except that Columbia Road probably should also be renamed, for a number of reasons. If the development happens, renaming it to "Bay City" would be nice.
The EGE said:
Broadway → Fort Point: Fort Point has always been centered more around Summer Street. If Summer Street gets a real busway, I'd use Fort Point for the stop near A Street.
While I agree that Fort Point should ideally be used for a Summer St station, from my perspective, it's more about renaming Broadway to anything else. That name is about as general as Washington St is (not to mention possible misconceptions from international tourists who may think that Broadway only refers to NYC's Theater District).

Other than Fort Point, I haven't thought of a good alternative. I even thought about calling it "Cabot" after Cabot Yard, but I doubt that's recognizable outside of transit nerds.
I agree that "Fort Point" doesn't quite work (although I suspect that the meaning of "Fort Point" will shift south to center on A Street and the Gillette building, as the Seaport begins to creep into Summer St, in which case it would become a more reasonable name). I understand why you want to change it. In my opinion, "Cabot" could be fine since it's unique (though there are lots of various things named "Cabot" scattered across the region) -- such a renaming would probably retronymically create "Cabot Square" above, which would create a "real" place for the station's name to align to.

That said, "Traveler" is right there, and is a pretty name. It's not a major street, but it could probably follow the same retronymic process as above and create "Traveler Square".

The irony is that the name "Broadway" has actually become less ambiguous over the years: Broadway used to extend all the way to Washington St, roughly where Marginal Road is now.

  • Orange Line: Mystic Landing, Bunker Hill (assuming no future/hypothetical line closer to the neighborhood), South Cove, Matthews Arena
"Back Bay" is hard because the subway station should match the mainline station, and the mainline station probably should be named "Back Bay".

Re Mass Ave (and the other stations): I like the idea of expanding on the laconic name of "Symphony" (which drops "Hall", as did "Mechanics"), and renaming Hynes to "Conservatory" and Mass Ave to "Arena". (No success yet coming up with a music-related name for the Silver Line's stop, although obviously we can always use Northampton there.)
  • Green Line trunk & GLX: Brickbottom, Public Garden, Auditorium
While I agree with @The EGE that it's not necessary to do, I do like the name "Public Garden"; in the same vein, if Park Street were changed (wholly unnecessarily) to Boston Common, that would be pretty.

Perhaps the stations could be "subtitled" with those names? On the map, it would still be "Arlington" but in the station there would be the subtitle in black-and-white below the green stripped "Arlington", and announced on the intercom as "Arlington/Public Garden." Something similar is done toward with World Trade Center, which is announced as "World Trade Center/Boston Exhibition & Convention Center".

Actually, it occurs to me that Boylston could be renamed "Boston Common". It's certainly not necessary to do, but theoretically "Boylston" is confusing because the street continues for over a mile west of the station.

Some other name changes I agree with (from this thread and others):
  • ...
  • Silver Line Way → Starboard Way (or Pavilion, or something else): anything to make it a useful name
I agree with @Teban54 -- "Starboard" is a cool name.
  • World Trade Center → BCEC (or maybe BCEC/World Trade Center): BCEC is at least as big a draw as the WTC
Are you suggesting the outright acronym as the name? The "shitposting" suggestion would be "BCEC/WTC", but that's probably too much. (Also note the presence of World Trade Center Avenue.)

In general, acronyms seem less desirable (though idk why I'd say that "Cabot" is okay but "BCEC" isn't -- at least the latter actually refers to a real place); that being said, squeezing "World Trade Center" into too many diagrams over the years makes me appreciate the pithiness of "BCEC".
  • Courthouse → Fan Pier: There are other major courthouses close to T stops, including the Suffolk County Superior Court (GC) and Suffolk Family and Probate (Haymarket) plus a number of district courts. "Fan Pier" is unique and better encapsulates the neighborhood.
Yeah, I do like "Fan Pier" better.
  • Design Center → literally anything else. Technically it's "Design Center Place", but that's still confusing, since 23 Drydock and 27 Drydock are the stops that actually serve most of the building. There's a lot that needs rethought about the SL2 loop - the stops are substandard, the Cruiseport is poorly served, and the layovers awkwardly interrupt a lot of trips.
I've used "Drydock", both after the street and the general fact that it's (historically) a drydock area. Google also suggests that there is a "Dry Dock Plaza Park" on Tide St, so that could also point toward that name.
  • Washington Street → Commonwealth Heights: the person aside, there are so many stops on or at Washington Streets. This would be unique.
Yeah and I like the sound of it. Very long on a map, but *shrug*.
  • West Station → Beacon Park. Please, for the love of everything good, give this station a real name. It's not going to be the equivalent of North Station or South Station.
Honestly I don't even blink at the name anymore, which is kinda sad, haha. But my suspicion is that, when development comes, it'll get branded with a particular name, and I think the station will get renamed to that anyway.
  • Boston Landing → Allston/Brighton: "Allston Yards" is too close to "Beacon Park Yard"; "Allston/Brighton" is better for the whole neighborhood it serves.
I agree with @Teban54 that this rename doesn't work as well. A broad name like "Allston/Brighton" implies some sort of "town center", which this isn't. I think, in some future world where Beacon Park development is complete, "Allston Yards" would be fine for a public-facing name.

But I also have gotten used to "Boston Landing", for better or worse. [continued below]
 
Ones I'm on the fence / meh about:
  • ...
  • Fenway → The Fens: Good way to lessen confusion with Fenway Park, but it's not actually that near the main body of the Fens.
I agree that "The Fens" is a bit far, but this station really struggles to present an obvious name. If it weren't the name of an E Line stop, "Riverway" could maybe work, but...
  • Cleveland Circle → Beacon Loop: Cleveland wasn't the worst president, but not great either. It's not a circle any more, but neither is it a loop.
I know some of it is now a parking lot, but it does still look like a circle to me:

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  • Chelsea → Mystic Mall: I get the reasoning, but it's weird to not have the Chelsea station on commuter rail called Chelsea.
Not a whole lot more for me to add here, other than agreeing that it's a frustrating issue. When I was trying to create a map for a BRT-ified 111, I tried to arbitrarily group stops into imaginary "stations" like this:

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Under this ^ model, "Chelsea" for the mainline station would end up overlapping with "Chelsea Square." In that case, I think it would be fine just to call it "Chelsea Mystic Mall". Alternatively, could go with "Chelsea Transfer". (I agree that "Depot" is now too synonymous with "Station," but I don't think "Transfer" has arrived at that point yet.)

It belatedly occurs to me that "Eastern Ave" could be renamed the slightly-inaccurate-but-poetic "Chelsea Bridge".

EDIT: Just to add my voice, Maverick really seems like it should be renamed. Like, both the station and the square. I get that the square has developed a history of its own... but Maverick was vile and was seen as extreme even by his contemporaries.

A few other random ones I haven't seen mentioned yet from @TheRatmeister's map.
  • State -> Post Office Square: the square itself is farther away from the Orange Line station (though the Blue Line station is close), but the name could be used to broaden the name of the square into the name of a microneighborhood. Not a priority, but fun to think about. ("Old State House" would also sound pleasant.)
  • North Station -> TD Garden:when it was the Boston Garden, I would've been onboard with renaming it, but now I wouldn't want to do it unless TD paid a lot of money for it (and even then, I'd be lukewarm). However, renaming it simply to "Garden" would be peak Boston (in bad ways):
    • People still just call it "The Garden"
    • Without context, it would make no sense to outsiders
    • Without context, it would be incredibly confusing with the Public Garden, probably exceeding Fenway/Kenmore in this respect
    • All of which seem like "peak Boston" to me
  • Ruggles -> Douglass: big +1 from me. The actual Frederick Douglass Square is at Tremont & Hammond, about halfway to Ruggles... but I don't really care, the station's like a quarter-mile away, and could be used to broaden the scope of the microneighborhood
  • Roxbury Crossing -> Hyde Square: this one doesn't really make sense to me -- I could see Jackson Square receiving that name though
  • Central Ave (Milton) -> Pine Tree Brook: I've used this one before, and I like how evocative it is. It's one of the few that I would actually place a little bit of real priority on changing, since there's already Central station elsewhere on the Red Line
  • Other Mattapan Line stops: honestly, I like all of these. They're very colorful. Other than Central Ave, I wouldn't prioritize any of the changes, but I do like the ideas
  • Valley Road -> Harvest Bridge: yeah, this one is tough -- there isn't even pedestrian access from the station to the trail, making it a 25 minute walk (!) between the two
  • Olmstead, Isabella Stewart Gardner, etc: I like how many names appear on this map
  • Braves Field, Brighton Music Hall, Trinity, Conservatory, White Stadium, Harambee Park, Mattapan Library, Emerson: I like all these (cultural) institution names. Both because it's nice to celebrate them, but also because it makes the stations more unique
    • Of these, I would probably only advocate for Brighton Music Hall, to avoid confusion around "Harvard Ave", but they're all quite nice
 
The most jarring example where these conditions are not met is the New Bedford Line's Church Street Station. This station faces the additional challenge of scope, as @The EGE put it: the broadness of a station name should reflect the broadness of the mode. Against the criteria above, only the second one applies, and that criterion is the weakest in my opinion.

("Church Street" is also puzzling because the eponymous street isn't actually a cross-street -- rather, it's one that runs parallel to the ROW for almost three miles. This makes me wonder if there are hopes for a "Church Street District", anchored by TOD in the large lots by the station. On paper, though, the station name seems incongruous, and I argue it's due to its failure to meet the criteria above.)
Church Street should be named "Tarkiln Hill", but the ideal time to pick that name was obviously before they built the station. I don't think there's any chance of the station name being changed for a very long time, unless New Bedford residents strongly advocate for a name change.
 

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