- Sep 15, 2010
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This is the complicated and inelegant result of home owners abutting the development doing everything they can to "minimize the impact" of this development on their lives and property values. The surrounding homes are 75% single family, and overwhelmingly owner occupied.The changes being referred to as "minor" include removal of all market rate units (42) and almost doubling the amount of open space. Less dense, more suburban, 100% public housing.
Perhaps this is a function of the stigma that commuter guy calls attention to:...these days whenever I see something this low density I know I am looking at subsidized housing.
This may also explain the elimination of the market-rate component of the project. If the developer's being pushed to reduce the scale, the first thing to go will be the elements that are the most costly to produce.If the goal of the these public housing retrofits is to blend in better with the surrounding neighborhood in an attempt to decrease the stigma of living in what looks to be "public housing" i'd say the town home portion of this project fails. I think the average resident will recognize this project as separate and distinct from the surrounding neighborhood now and in the future.
And in this case, discouraging developers. I'll make the outlandish suggestion that the market forces that pushed the shrinkage of this project are the home values of the surrounding neighborhood, and the loud voices of their owners.There’s something to be said for the market forces there, encouraging developers.
Have you ever attended a meeting in this neighborhood? Or taken a walk around? Asking for a friend...This one came with way too little opposition.
Sadly correct.The townhouses look like they could be future maintenance money pits, too much taxpayer cost for too little return.
Just a question. Why do you think that these places will turn into slums? Is it because you believe that the city will ignore this area as soon as these apartments are constructed?God, I hate separating poor people into these off-site reservations that turn into goddamned slums. I thought by now as a society we'd be beyond that, but apparently not.
This abuts Suffolk Downs. If even a fraction of HYM’s long-term development plans come to fruition there, this will actually integrate very nicely with Boston’s next Boston Landing-, Assembly Row-style neighborhood.God, I hate separating poor people into these off-site reservations that turn into goddamned slums. I thought by now as a society we'd be beyond that, but apparently not.
You don't think concentrated poverty is a bad thing?Just a question. Why do you think that these places will turn into slums? Is it because you believe that the city will ignore this area as soon as these apartments are constructed?
Maybe it's the optimism in me but I believe dedicating the right amount of resources to keep the new neighborhood maintained would allow it to thrive even if the residents themselves are not well off.
I'm not saying it's not a bad thing but I wonder how much of the impact is because of the lack of resource dedicated to maintaining the neighborhood, rather than the cause being a bunch of poor people live together.You don't think concentrated poverty is a bad thing?