I highly doubt that's the final paint scheme. Amtrak's sent all of its recent purchases like the Sprinter and Charger locos to the same USDOT testing facility during prototyping, and they all wore provisional factory paint schemes that changed a lot before they graduated to non-revenue testing on Amtrak trackage. This is probably no different.
Unlikely. They made a big deal about unveiling this as the final livery.I highly doubt that's the final paint scheme. Amtrak's sent all of its recent purchases like the Sprinter and Charger locos to the same USDOT testing facility during prototyping, and they all wore provisional factory paint schemes that changed a lot before they graduated to non-revenue testing on Amtrak trackage. This is probably no different.
See the video starting at about the three minute mark. Quite the proboscis.I may be misinterpreting this, but the new Acela locomotive does not appear particularly aerodynamically designed. It seems to have a lot of turbulence generation points. Also the interface between the locomotive and first car is not aligned for aerodynamics? Is Acela so slow that they just don't care (unlike real bullet trains)?
The only way you're doing 90 on more than trace *part* of the Downeaster is if it gets re-routed via the Eastern Route, because the Western is nowhere near straight enough for that. Trace on a map Revere-Portsmouth vs. Andover-Dover and it's screamingly obvious that geometry is not going to cooperate for that on the current routing out to the Maine border. While the trip would benefit from a Lowell Line speedup to 90 MPH where that is mostly feasible out to Wilmington, there's not a lot else you can do to push it above 60-79 MPH anywhere else. The Western is pretty much sitting right now at historical high speed limits.Slightly Crazy: let's imagine a future where the Downeaster runs on upgraded tracks that would allow service similar to Florida's Brigthline (90 to 110 mph service)
Would such a service need/want to be limited stop? Imagine cutting a deal that somehow required "Acela-like" stop spacing.
What would the stops be?
THanks for this! The Eastern is amazingly straight north of the Merrimack. Sounds like MA's contribution would have to be a new bridge across the Merrimack (even if it was mostly political will and Federal $). And then Electrification to Portland would be awesome.Old vs. new routings meet at Dover, and stop selection changes from Anderson--Haverhill--Exeter--Durham--Dover over to Salem--Newburyport--Portsmouth--Dover. More or less a wash on ridership, though the downtowns it hits in Salem, Newburyport, and Portsmouth are much bigger destinations and there's a bit more of a true Seacoast focus with the routing. And you can definitely electrify all on the Eastern to here without problems while numerous clearance issues are going to make the Western in MA/NH the very last of the mainlines to get strung up. North of Dover the quantity and severity of overhead bridge restrictions is much lower, so you can try your luck with freight clearances under electrification in just Maine with a clearer (if still not altogether certain) cost ceiling for getting electrics to Portland. The bypassed NH stops on the Western can be then backfilled by NHDOT commuter rail service (almost certainly diesel) as a semi-express flavor of the Haverhill Line, reinstating B&M commuter service that ran until June 30, 1967 three years into the MBTA era.
If they get enough consensus in public comments on all these YouTube vids they're sharing they'll probably entertain changes to the scheme. Especially if final detailing can mesh the lines. Do post a comment in official AMTK online venues if you feel aesthetically strongly about any of this...the powers that be do monitor those channels with interest.^ It is strange that he red pinstripe runs the length of the train at floor level but that they've chosen not to do the lower blue stripe on the locomotive.
They've already built rail trails on the ROW. I don't think they'll re-purpose it in our lifetimes.THanks for this! The Eastern is amazingly straight north of the Merrimack. Sounds like MA's contribution would have to be a new bridge across the Merrimack (even if it was mostly political will and Federal $). And then Electrification to Portland would be awesome.
Im not an art person, so I cant explain why.I don't understand where you are getting eastern European and old. The Avelia Liberty aka Acela 2 design was based on a combination of the Avelia Horizon and Pendolino trains neither of which are an 80s designed eastern European train.
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I just don't understand this comparison personally. I do think one problem the train has is the lack of connection between passenger cars and the power car but I think that is partially driven by some of the weird american requirements for trains such as not allowing passenger seating in the power car like the Italian design allows. Also the current Acela's exterior design is based on TGV cars from the 90s which are actually 20 years old and they look just like the older ones on the TGV from that era so I don't think anyone would look at them and think they look newer.