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Also have to agree. This display of character by the BRA does nothing to make them a respected member of the development community. It is sad once again that the project Menino backed (Filenes) that failed miserably has to be used as leverage to delay all future construction, unless someone is on their knees servicing Menino and the BRA. Ozzy Osbourne was speaking on WAAF this morning and they compared him to mumbles, it was classic. Just thought I would add that.
 
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That was pretty funny, I just hope whoever made it/posted it doesn't agree.
 
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IIRC, the FAA height limits are being dictated by the azimuth and ascension angles of the radar beams.
 
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Good strategy by Chiofaro. Give an ultimatum. Either have it approve or don't build it at all. That way, he won't have to sit and wait while losing money trying to build it.

Developer may scuttle tower plans
Chiofaro urges city to relax height curbs


By Casey Ross, Globe Staff | March 18, 2010

Developer Don Chiofaro said he will abandon his proposal to build two skyscrapers near the New England Aquarium unless city officials relax height restrictions and approve buildings tall enough to make the project economically viable.

Chiofaro said the towers need to be 45 to 50 stories tall to attract investors willing to underwrite the steep costs of building on Boston?s waterfront. But he contends city officials are considering new height restrictions that would lower his proposed buildings by at least one-third, making them too small to support the high expense of construction.

So Chiofaro said he may do nothing and keep the property in its current form ? a squat, concrete parking garage that he said forms an ugly barrier between the harbor and the Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy Greenway.

?From the very beginning, we bought the garage with the idea of turning it into an important building for the city,?? Chiofaro said. ?If the guidelines will not permit an economically feasible project, we will have to forgo the notion of city building and look at all of our alternatives.??

His comments are a rare public challenge to Boston Mayor Thomas M. Menino, who is known for exerting heavy influence over individual building projects, and drew a sharp rebuke from city officials. They said Chiofaro is trying to pressure the city into approving a development that has failed to win public support.

?We think this is a public relations play to tarnish a thorough and thoughtful planning process in which we are working to protect important public assets along the Greenway and Boston Harbor,?? said Susan Elsbree, spokeswoman for the Boston Redevelopment Authority.

The conflict threatens another major development in Boston at a time when the down economy and tight credit markets have made it difficult to build projects that have won City Hall approval. And it raises doubt about yet another building site along the Greenway.

Chiofaro would be the second private developer to pull back from a major project along the Greenway in recent months. The other, Ted Raymond, was replaced two months ago as lead developer by the financial backers of a project that would straddle Congress Street. Nonprofits, including the YMCA and Boston Museum, are still trying to raise funds for their buildings.

Chiofaro issued his threat ahead of a public meeting at Boston City Hall tonight, at which consultants retained by the Menino administration are scheduled to discuss preliminary recommendations for new height guidelines for buildings around the Greenway. The corridor is surrounded by more than a dozen potential development sites.

For Chiofaro?s site at the parking garage, the consultants have suggested restricting new buildings to 400 feet tall, roughly 25 to 30 stories.

Chiofaro, however, has said his towers would have to be at least 625 feet, or about 45 stories, to attract the funds necessary for construction. He had initially proposed a complex that would have topped out at 780 feet.

He would also build a large glass atrium with shops that would include a corridor through which pedestrians could access the waterfront. And he would build a garage underground.

While Chiofaro?s project sits at a key location, Elsbree said the new height guidelines for the Greenway area will cover about 20 different properties and should not be seen as focusing on Chiofaro.

?The goal of this process is not to maximize profits for one developer who overpaid for his property,?? Elsbree said. ?It?s important to be patient and wait for the right development that is sensitive to the Greenway.??

Chiofaro paid about $155 million to acquire the Harbor Garage at the height of the real estate market in 2007. Since then, the commercial property market has crashed, making it difficult to finance even modest buildings.

Regardless of market conditions, Chiofaro and some urban planners said developing his property ? or any urban waterfront site ? has particular challenges and risks, and so the buildings need to be big to justify the costs.

?When waterfront buildings are not allowed to be large enough to be viable, they simply don?t get built,?? said Steve Cecil, cofounder of a Boston urban planning firm that helped develop the vision for the Greenway parks. ?That?s why those sites are often the last to be developed in cities. The question really is where is the balance between planning and the economics.??

Cecil said Boston?s lengthy review process of large developments works to find that balance. ?And that?s the doorway through which this project needs to move,?? he said.

But Chiofaro argued the city has not been responsive to multiple requests for meetings to discuss a compromise. He hired Pamela McKinney, principal of the Boston firm Byrne, McKinney & Associates, to study his development site and provide information on how large the project must be to be viable.

McKinney, who has previously advised the BRA, said yesterday that Chiofaro?s site has higher development costs than most downtown sites. She said its tight dimensions near the harbor will require complex and costly construction, especially to move the parking underground.

?If people are hoping that better economic times will eventually make it easier to build a smaller project there, they will be forever chasing a dream,?? McKinney said. ?Costs always escalate faster that revenues.??

But some neighbors who live in the adjacent Harbor Towers condos and oppose Chiofaro?s proposal said financial barriers ? whether they kill the project or not ? should not be the primary factor in the city?s review.

?We have always thought Mr. Chiofaro?s plan was neither responsible nor economically viable,?? Harbor Towers? trustees said in a statement.

Casey Ross can be reached at cross@globe.com.
 
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I seen this coming a year ago
 
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Sounds like a lack of due diligence by Chiofaro, who (with Prudential) paid $155 million for a site with lots of problems and encumbrances (like the fact that Harbor Towers has easements in perpetuity for utilities and resident parking).
 
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On the one hand: I agree that Chiofaro probably overpaid.
On the other hand: Can we get beyond that and work to have a world-class addition to the skyline here? This parcel screams for a trophy building. Chiofaro was proposing that and he included a large residential component. Both big wins for everyone in the city except the Harbor Tower's residents.
 
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The BRA gives Liberty Mutual a 20 Million dollar tax break to build in the back bay and they won't let Chiofaro build an extra 200 or 300 Ft?

Looks like the concrete garage is a keeper. At this point the Greenway is going to $uck with BRA running the show.

I actually think Chiofaro got a good deal on the garage. Parking is the highest demand in they city and will always command high prices.
 
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If Chiofaro was smart like his peers in NY he would tear down the garage, dig a big hole and then demand to build his tower.
 
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If Chiofaro was smart like his peers in NY he would tear down the garage, dig a big hole and then demand to build his tower.

I'm still livid over the Filene's and Gaiety sites, but this would be amazing and I'd support it 100%.

The comments section of that article is about as depressing as you might imagine. Dozens of people who haven't figured out they live in a city, and are desperate to protect the cars on the median strip from any shadows or breezes.
 
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He can't really do that even if he wanted to, since the garage contains both parking and HVAC for Harbor Towers.
 
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Awesome. I think this is a play we will see become more frequent in regards to development in not only Boston but other cities with poor planning committees.

I do support the idea of the BRA and preservation of the essence and planned evolution of the city, but at this point it just seems like they are scraping to appear authoritative in nature. By not working with developers, and instead against them, they are making themselves look less intelligent, respectable, and unfortunately negatively impacting the appeal of Boston for future investment in development.
 
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The city should have pushed high-density development along the waterfront while the artery was still standng - on the promise that the artery would come down. Clearly the artery didn't stifle all development, e.g. Rowes Wharf. Opportunity missed: now that there's some sort of park already there, the entire thing is frozen in ice.
 
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I like how Chirafo is trying to take his fight, and logic to the people. Probably all in vain though. But what truely pisses me off is that if it would get built some would have hissy fits and hopefully die or maybe just finally move to the suburbs, but most would come to except it and with ten years it would be a celebrated building much like the Hancock and Pru are the symbols of Boston, or atleast one many symbols.
 
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At this pace Boston Development future looks very dark and gloomy. What does the BRA want developers to lose money? I think this website might be in jeapordy. Unless most posters like chatting about 200 or 300Ft's or maybe multi-units.
 
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However, Rowes Wharf is also a good example for the anti-tower side of the argument. It shows that you can build a very smart, dense, and well-regarded project along the waterfront without lots of height. (See also: Battery Wharf.)
 
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Another thing just occured to me. These city officials are saying well it's your fault you paid too much, all the while didn't they make a nice chunk of money on the taxes on that, wasn't that money used to benefit the city and now they are using that as an argument to use against him.
 
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^ Absolutely. And also, by chiding a developer for "overpaying" the city is basically telling developers that there's no upside.
 
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