BCEC expansion | Seaport

Don't look for logic in a provincial development body too often favoring under-development and that is easily influenced by common sense-challenged "green" zealots.
 
If there really is such a dearth of hotel rooms in close proximity to the convention center, why aren't these hotels each 400 or so rooms instead of 500 total?
 
choo said:
I don't understand that they want more hotels and residential yet are building a 10 story building?
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Something to do with the permitting in the area about high rises south of Summer St. on D st. I know I've seen something mentioned a bunch. Caving to residents.

Based on the location, they should be able to do 300 feet here, which is basically 30 floors of hotel rooms. Talking close to 1,000 keys then. Lack of hotel rooms becomes a solved issue so much quicker....

Not gonna happen however.
 
I don't think it's just a matter of them not being allowed to build higher. I don't think the demand/interest from hotel operators/developers is there.
Why would we be asked to subsidize a headquaters hotel otherwise?
 
A little bit of Miami Sleek. Lots of glass and looks like little to no precast. Fits the lot better too, minimizing open space. And the added height is certainly an improvement. Morris Lapidus would approve.
 
i think its good that they are low rises because everything lately is being built up to the same height so it will be good to have some variation to that.
 
I'm once again reminded that this is fewer than 100 hotel rooms per acre. A terrible precedent for the area. In order to get to the 2,700 hotel rooms that BCEC claims they need we'll end up with 30 acres (an area 50% larger than Fan Pier) consisting of hotel rooms and parking garages.
 
Since its opening in '04, the BCEC has exceeded expectations and been forced to turn away at least 18 events a year, James tells us. The lack of hotel rooms is a major reason. In the Seaport District and environs, there are only 1,700 hotel rooms in walking distance to the BCEC compared to about 8,000 rooms for cities like San Diego and Orlando. That puts Boston at a competitive disadvantage, he says. Last year, the BCEC and Hynes Convention Center generated $656M in economic activity but can do better, says Jim. Next, he'd like have a 1,000-key hotel built near a BCEC with more exhibit space (rendering of the expanded center above).
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http://www.bisnow.com/commercial-real-estate/boston/the-deal-sheet-bos-052213/
 
Honestly, I don't think these convention center expansions happening all over the country are sustainable. how long until the BCEC even expanded become obsolete and has to be torn down?
 
found5dollar said:
Honestly, I don't think these convention center expansions happening all over the country are sustainable. how long until the BCEC even expanded become obsolete and has to be torn down?
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The Hynes is 25 years old and still functioning.

BCEC is 9 years old. I'm sure it has a long life ahead.
 
found5dollar said:
Honestly, I don't think these convention center expansions happening all over the country are sustainable. how long until the BCEC even expanded become obsolete and has to be torn down?
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Are conventions going to suddenly go extinct?
 
Traveling conventions/shows/exhibitions need spaces in many major cities. Also, the BCEC itself isn't expanding, it's adding hotel space, which will enable the BCEC to book more events. If more events stop looking for bookings, the hotels will either find more business to fill the spaces, or they won't.
 
BussesAin'tTrains said:
Traveling conventions/shows/exhibitions need spaces in many major cities. Also, the BCEC itself isn't expanding, it's adding hotel space, which will enable the BCEC to book more events. If more events stop looking for bookings, the hotels will either find more business to fill the spaces, or they won't.
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The BCEC is expanding.

http://www.advantageboston.com/bcec/bcec-expansion-plans.aspx

http://www.bisnow.com/commercial-real-estate/boston/the-deal-sheet-bos-052213/
 
Ok then, my mistake. Is there any indications that this is short-sighted planning? Or is that just economic pessimism?
 
found5dollar said:
no, but with the proliferation of larger and larger convention centers popping up all over the country, when will the supply of enormous centers outweigh their demand?
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The hope (maybe wishful thinking) is that Boston will be a very attractive convention city for decades to come because people like to visit Boston. I don't think there are more than 5 or 6 more attractive convention cities than Boston especially from April to November. How many times as a conventioneer can you go to Kansas City, St. Louis, Detroit, Denver, Pittsburgh, Columbus, Dallas, Atlanta etc. Most convention attendees probably prefer Boston to those and similar destinations. Especially if there are sufficient hotel room close by along with restaurants and entertainment.
 
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