Fall River/New Bedford Commuter Rail (South Coast Rail)


My partner and I recently took a trip to New Bedford on SCR to visit the Whaling Museum! Neither of us had been to New Bedford before and we had a great time. It's fantastic and really unique; one of my favorite museums in the Commonwealth!
 
My partner and I recently took a trip to New Bedford on SCR to visit the Whaling Museum! Neither of us had been to New Bedford before and we had a great time. It's fantastic and really unique; one of my favorite museums in the Commonwealth!
I always felt like NB could be the Mass version of Portland, Maine, but whenever I go there, the downtown can be rather dead. I hope that changes.
 
On the Fall River/New Bedford Line, midday and evening trains will no longer stop at JFK/UMass, and passengers may take the Red Line to connect with Commuter Rail service at South Station or Braintree.

MBTA added that two late-night shuttle trains, one from Fall River and one from New Bedford, will no longer operate in order to decrease the number of late-night train movements.
 
Awfully poorly proofread article by ABC6. Here's the full press release: https://news.keolisna.com/mbta-and-keolis-announce-commuter-rail-schedule-adjustments

July 9, 2025 (BOSTON, MA) – The MBTA and Keolis Commuter Services (Keolis), the operations and maintenance partner for the Commuter Rail, will implement minor schedule adjustments for four Commuter Rail lines to improve reliability for passengers, particularly on the new Fall River/New Bedford Line. The updated schedules will take effect on July 21 for the Fall River/New Bedford, Greenbush, Kingston, and Providence/Stoughton Lines.

Over the past few months, service in the new Fall River/New Bedford area has seen steady improvements, and these adjustments are designed to make even further progress, especially with on time performance. Despite some early challenges, Keolis and our union partners have made significant progress on crew qualification, and no weekend Fall River / New Bedford trains have been cancelled due to crew availability in over nine weeks

On the Fall River/New Bedford Line, midday and evening trains will no longer stop at JFK/UMass, which will improve travel times for passengers. JFK/UMass passengers may take the Red Line to connect with Commuter Rail service at South Station or Braintree. Two late-night shuttle trains, one from Fall River and one from New Bedford, will no longer operate in order to decrease the number of late-night train movements. Finally, departure times will be adjusted throughout the day to improve resiliency.

On the Greenbush Line, a new morning peak train will be added arriving at South Station at 9:43 a.m. Midday trains on the Greenbush and Kingston Lines will also see minor adjustments to departure times.

On the Providence/Stoughton Line, train 864 will now stop at Hyde Park to accommodate passengers in the Fairmount area during ongoing construction on the Fairmount Line that includes replacing tracks to prepare for the introduction of battery-electric trains and making other station improvements.

The updated schedules for the July 21 adjustments on the Fall River/New Bedford, Greenbush, Kingston and Providence/Stoughton Lines will be available soon at mbta.com/cr.
I'm curious where the capacity for a new 9:43am Greenbush inbound is coming from. (Just looked at the schedules and it's not a new trip at all, just a shift of an existing trip)

(Edit: Schedules are also up on the MBTA site. Looks like 3-5 minutes added to each trip for slack. Last train to fall river goes from leaving south station at 11:59pm to 10:35pm which is unfortunate. All weekend trains skip JFK, including Kingston and Greenbush. All around major service cut for JFK riders.)
 
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Earlier in this thread someone said that the T is starting to look at double-tracking Dorchester and Quincy... I assume that's very early in the process? Asking because this is the first I've heard of it. Eng did reference double tracking on a podcast appearance a couple weeks ago, but mentioned no specifics. Thanks.
 
Earlier in this thread someone said that the T is starting to look at double-tracking Dorchester and Quincy... I assume that's very early in the process? Asking because this is the first I've heard of it. Eng did reference double tracking on a podcast appearance a couple weeks ago, but mentioned no specifics. Thanks.
There's a study scheduled (I think now with CIP funds) to ballpark what it would entail for work and what it would cost, but that was only originally proposed by the T in 2022 and I don't think the study has actually started yet because the CIP funds were very recent. The price tag for the final project is definitely going to be scary...on the order of $1B+...so I'd expect we're still going to be talking about it 10 years from now. But they've at least duly acknowledged that the Old Colony lines can't participate in Regional Rail scheduling at all without it, and the ongoing disaster that's been South Coast Rail's service start certainly ups the urgency to keep talking and planning about it.
 
Related to question in the pike thread: would the Feds allow trading a lane of 93 for a track?
 
The portion next to the Expressway can be remedied if you move the Ashmont-Braintree split to just north of Fields Corner. Braintree trains would have to either stop or pass through Savin Hill, though.

The challenging stretch is in Quincy, from just past Billings Road to south of the Home Depot at Quincy Adams. That parallels Newport Avenue and Burgin Parkway.
 
The portion next to the Expressway can be remedied if you move the Ashmont-Braintree split to just north of Fields Corner. Braintree trains would have to either stop or pass through Savin Hill, though.

The challenging stretch is in Quincy, from just past Billings Road to south of the Home Depot at Quincy Adams. That parallels Newport Avenue and Burgin Parkway.
How much of Quincy do you think can get away with single track? It seems to me there's space to do double track south of Adams Street with very minimal takings *if* the redevelopments being planned at Star Market and the Granite Place plaza take it in mind.

It's really a shame the way Wollaston Station was rebuilt.
 
Related to question in the pike thread: would the Feds allow trading a lane of 93 for a track?
That wouldn't be much of a cost-saver for the project, because you'd still have to nuke/rebuild the Savin Hill Ave. overpass and re-space all the tracks to fit the expanded Old Colony in the middle. Plus it's only a small amount of the total single-tracking that actually goes next to the highway. You still have to deal with the single-track from Columbia Jct. to Southampton Yard, JFK Station, south of Savin Hill to Victory Rd., and Newport Ave. in Quincy to Braintree Yard.

But no, I don't think the feds are going to allow it because 93...unlike the Pike from 128 in...is 8 lanes all the way from its start in Canton to the Pike+South Station interchange in South Boston with only a momentary interruption on the Braintree split ramps. That's a very serious disruption in contiguous capacity on 93 that you don't get on the Pike where the 8 lanes only go from Newton Corner-in. The Pike's 8-lane section is rarely all that congested; 93's 8-lane sections--north AND south of town--are almost always congested even on the off-peak.
 
All around major service cut for JFK riders
At the very least this part isnt that big of a deal besides the single-seat convenience (though first-hand experience tells me a decent amount of South Shore nurses will switch to driving cause they refuse to use the subway or MBTA buses). The JFK-South Station transit time is about par between commuter rail and red line due to the slow South Station approach on CR, and the Quincy-JFK-South Station time is only about 5 additional minutes on the red line
 
How much of Quincy do you think can get away with single track?
It depends how many trains you want to get through.

TransitMatters looked at this in their Modernizing the Old Colony Lines report (where they were also assuming electrification and raising the track speeds). One option they consider is doing the Red Line/Commuter Rail track swap in Dorchester, then just rebuilding Quincy Center station double tracked where trains could pass each other. They say that should be enough for 6 tph each direction. Anything more frequent than that probably requires full double tracking.
 
It depends how many trains you want to get through.

TransitMatters looked at this in their Modernizing the Old Colony Lines report (where they were also assuming electrification and raising the track speeds). One option they consider is doing the Red Line/Commuter Rail track swap in Dorchester, then just rebuilding Quincy Center station double tracked where trains could pass each other. They say that should be enough for 6 tph each direction. Anything more frequent than that probably requires full double tracking.
You need 12 TPH to give all 3 Old Colony branches :30 bi-directional service, so in all likelihood it's got to be complete double tracking. And as long as South Coast Rail is attached you can't assume precise-enough meets to stage it all on segments of remaining single-track, so it's got to be complete DT where trains in each direction can just follow one after the other.
 
Is it a binary choice (re: capital planning) between SCR Phase II and double-tracking the OC? (I get that sense from F Line.) Because in reality, you should do both, as well as adding the third track on the NEC.
 
Is it a binary choice (re: capital planning) between SCR Phase II and double-tracking the OC? (I get that sense from F Line.) Because in reality, you should do both, as well as adding the third track on the NEC.
No. You want the 3 OC branches to be able to participate in :30 Regional Rail scheduling in any universe, so that needs to be done--painful as it'll be--as an outright priority. Otherwise you're going to have a pronounced stratification of haves and have nots on the Purple Line system when Regional Rail pumps :30 clock-facing frequencies nearly everywhere else and the OC trio remains hourly-at-best with very irregular/gapped-out arrivals and departures. The South Shore is much too dense and traffic-clogged to consign them to that second-class fate.

South Coast Rail is always going to be too brittle on schedule adherence attached to the OC even if you do fix the mainline, and would have much better (and more ridership-generating) travel times via an up-to-spec Stoughton Route while tapping considerable new ridership (Easton, Raynham, Downtown Taunton + access to Ruggles and Back Bay) that the M'boro Alternative explicitly avoids. Plus Cape Cod can't get in the Commuter/Regional Rail game at all if its would-be frequencies are all diverted by SCR at Middleboro. So you have to eventually do that as well, though the urgency might not be quite as high as giving the OC scheduling equity for a Regional Rail universe. In the long run both projects are functionally mandatory, though I'd expect the state to hold its nose about the price tag on the OC widening and try for a long interlude to forget/suppress that SCR Phase 2 even exists as an unfinished mandate.

The NEC Readville-Canton third track is thankfully in planning by the T and Amtrak, as it's needed as an outright requirement for Providence and Stoughton to ever get their :30 frequencies amid Amtrak growth. So at least that's no longer SCR Phase 2's problem to solve.
 

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