Ferry to Lynn?

1) Build two layover tracks on the former marblehead line after swampscott, extend DMU service there.

Marblehead Branch isn't state-owned...got abandoned too early for that. They do need to finish the trail on the south branch like they have the ex-Salem Branch to the north that links Marblehead with Salem State U. It's got great grade separation and preserved bridge abutments over Stetson Ave. and 1A that could get cheap wood footbridges plunked on top. This would be one of those "bipedal transit line"-level utilization paved trails because of the beach access and complete circuit access to both Salem and Swampscott. If the DMU's had the same 2 bike racks setup as the bi-level coaches are getting it's a grab-and-go trip. The only trick is striping good enough bike lanes from Lynn Common to Swampscott that the 3-mile gap between the Marblehead Branch and the Saugus Branch trails isn't totally infeasible for the more hardcore bicyclists to link.

As for layovers, most likely they could build a pocket track or two just south of Lynn station on some of the derelict freight tracks. Although would be kind of hard for a crew breakroom there because it's up on the embankment inaccessible from street level. Other option is the unused yard in front of Riverworks, which the T only uses to park work equipment when it's doing something on the Eastern Route.

2) Reopen East Lynn station and relocate Riverworks/West Lynn further east so its useful and can spawn some TOD. Possibly add a station at Oak Island
West Lynn is definitely a very good growth prospect because there's so much redevelopable land between the tracks and Lynnway. And it's a regular stop on all peak hour trains and flag stop on all off-peaks, so doing something bigger with it doesn't introduce any additional stop-exclusive train congestion. Move the platform about 1000 ft. north by the disused helipad where it aligns better with the access driveway, street grid, and nearest bus stop and it can be a TOD anchor: http://goo.gl/maps/wywYr. A footbridge to the other side provides direct access to the Bike to the Sea trail and the dense residential to the north. And it's close enough to Point of Pines to be a quick bus trip and not-too-difficult walk.

Or you could go a little further up by Commercial St. and the abandoned Saugus Branch wye where the ancient West Lynn station used to be. But I think splitting the difference between Riverworks and Commercial is a little bit better for anchoring TOD, providing some token access to Point of Pines, and still adequately serving the residential if there's a path to the Caldwell Court/Bike to the Sea side.


Oak I. is not a possibility. Eastern Route's too far off-alignment on side tiny streets. It's too obscure and maze-like a walk to reach the bus. The main part of the neighborhood is an easier walk to Wonderland. Oak I.'s got to be a Blue-only stop on the extension.


East Lynn is surplus to requirement. Adding that does introduce some worries about Eastern Route throughput since South Salem/Salem State U. projects as one of the highest-ridership infills they could add anywhere on the commuter rail. So you have to assume that one's going to be in the cards and a for-sure destination for the push-pulls and potential destination for the DMU's. Since the Eastern Route already has OTP issues and is sluggish out to Beverly, it is wise to hold off on hyper-density until the Chelsea grade crossing restrictions get solved. It's enough degradation in travel time across the whole works that it exposes a little bit of risk to those clock-facing headways starting to wander a couple mins when the Chelsea bottleneck and the Western Route merge bottleneck come into play. It trims the margin for error enough that bunching of headways--12 mins. here, 18 mins. here--starts to impact the convenience. This service needs to hold to 15 pretty faithfully and not just average it amidst variance; the margins for retaining ridership @ 15 mins. are not high enough to absorb a creep-in of "B Line Syndrome" bunching.

I've posted before the problems with a Wonderland CR station being too far a walk for the transfer unable to be meaningfully shortened. No one will ride that when the walk between platforms is longer than the walk between most surface Green Line stops. They will take the bus instead.

3) Rebuild the old freight branch to Airport, allowing a cross platform transfer to the Blue Line, Chelsea Silver Line and Massport shuttles. (This is where most of the BL extension plans not using the Point of Pines routing have it splitting off). Also possibility for a station for Revere at the Junction near Winthrop St. Also allows headway increases since you no longer have to deal with Chelsea.
This will not work. The out-of-service East Boston Branch is only 1.5 miles long, with end-of-track at Addison St. in Eastie on the backlot behind the Chelsea St. bridge. With a self-storage warehouse built on the ROW, so it does not link at all with the Silver Line Chelsea route and Eastie Haul Road just on the other side of the parcel that would be your Urban Ring route. The junction with the Eastern Route points the wrong direction at a sharp angle, most of it runs within a few feet of the river and 1A with hardly any room to put stations much less get people across the 1A deathtrap, most of it runs through private property owned by Global Petroleum, and the entire length of the ROW is contaminated by nasty toxic waste that would require massive amounts of EPA cleanup to send passengers down there.

It has no ridership potential, and the industrial setting--especially the toxic cleanup--makes it a particularly poor candidate. This branch is being held by Pan Am as a freight reactivation candidate for Global Petroleum; they almost got a massive overnight ethanol train started down it last year before the NIMBY's torpedoed Global's ethanol facility plans. And it's the only place in Boston where Pan Am has a mothballed freight yard it can reactivate for local truck transloading, since it sold off everything by Assembly and Brickbottom. It's a par bet to see freights again someday if some very modest Readville-esque daily use can be justified, but the passenger potential of the north/still-RR half is absolute nil.

4) Begin quad tracking between Eastie and Swampscott
Doesn't need it. Because the Salem tunnel, Salem single platform, and Beverly drawbridge are the traffic limiters for commuter rail all points north, and the Chelsea crossings and junction with the Western Route are limiter for the entire operation. It's total wasted capacity to have > 2 tracks in the middle. It would not buy one more headway, and crossovers are wholly adequate for a Newburyport/Rockport express to pass a DMU local. They would never get used.

5) Convert it over to the blue line!
Don't need to convert. That's what track berths 3 & 4 are for! Get Saugus Draw replaced with a high 4-track fixed span, widen the marsh embankment on the approach, and bend the Blue Line across 1A from the BRB&L alignment to the Eastern Route alignment after Oak I. station at this scuzzy industrial parking lot: http://goo.gl/maps/g9EpH. That's the hardest part of the Blue extension. Once you're on the Lynn side it's 4-track ROW all the way to Castle Hill Yard in Salem where CR and rapid transit can run alongside each other without any modification to the CR side other than opening up a lot more express slots to Boston. The only required widenings are Lynn station itself, and if Blue ever presses further beyond to Salem then Swampscott station and widening a couple modern-replacement rail overpasses like Chatham St. and Burill St. @ Swampscott station.

The rest of it, including the vast expanses of marsh between Swampscott and Salem, is all 4-track cut/embankment (albeit obscured in spots by vegetation overgrowth). The Eastern RR had the incredible foresight 150 years ago to overbuild its RR and overbuild all its late- 19th century grade separations to Salem as a 4-track ROW, thinking it was going to slay Boston & Maine out of business and suck up twice the traffic. It never had more than 2 thru tracks aside from freight sidings, but the whole damn thing is built for it. Even Saugus Draw, which has 4-wide abutments that could've had a second draw span added on. Really, it's just getting across the river and the T's compulsion for overly expensive stations that make Blue-Lynn a megaproject. Two-thirds of the cost is tied up just in exiting Revere. Once you're on the Lynn side of the river it's almost silly-easy to engineer. And then further extend to Salem for a later encore.

[qupote]6) Get the blue line to Salem, figure out how to send the DMUs to Danvers.[/quote]See above re: Blue-Salem. Boy or boy does getting to Lynn set things up nicely for the follow-through. Both this extension and a much more immediate explosion in Yellow Line usage across the North Shore with the Wonderland express siphoning of equipment disappearing.

North Shore/128 via Peabody Sq. is the only branching route left. The Danversport one has been claimed by the rail trail. Not that big a deal unless you've got a personal preference for Danvers, since North Shore Mall's a little bit better park-and-ride site and has *marginally* better projected ridership. The only thing the Danvers option had going for it was less costly swampland EIS'ing.

BTW...there is no trail going on the North Shore alignment. It's a power line ROW currently owned by the power company, and doesn't offer any pedestrian means of connecting to the trail on the opposite side of 128. The Danvers ROW got claimed in part because it hits Route 114, the nearest overpass of 128 to the other side. So this routing will always be available for commuter rail, and since Peabody wants that line bad they are protecting it accordingly.

1, 2 and 3 can all happen at the same time or in a different order.
Well, not really because of the above caveats. But most definitely West Lynn/Riverworks makeover should be part of the base package. That's far too juicy to pass up.
 
Alexander -- No its quite simple:

1) Quincy
a] sits on two major highways and is the gateway to the Southshore
b] former major employer -- Quincy Fore River Shipbuilding
c] Granite Links
d] City of Presidents
e] has become a site for office parks and increasingly more upscale residences

2) Lynn
a] sits on no major highway -- you really don't need to go to Lynn to get anywhere
b] former major employer GE
c] Lynn Woods
d] City of Sin -- "you never come out the way you went in"
e] not even competing with Revere for upscaleness

I think the difference is in the different demographics of Lynn and Quincy -- neither is going to be confused with Newton [about the same size] as a city/suburb


Yes, Mr. Lexingtonite. We are well acquainted with your stances on the rich vs. poor divide whether you're outright flamebaiting it into the middle of a thread or slipping it out there subtly in code. :rolleyes:

Lynn is poor. Therefore they're not deserving of investment.

We get it. Your biases about that are eminently predictable, and the signal-to-noise dumped across the board over the years in justification of that requires half a mountain of salt grains for anyone to objectively parse.
 
Alexander -- No its quite simple:

1) Quincy
a] sits on two major highways and is the gateway to the Southshore
b] former major employer -- Quincy Fore River Shipbuilding
c] Granite Links
d] City of Presidents
e] has become a site for office parks and increasingly more upscale residences

2) Lynn
a] sits on no major highway -- you really don't need to go to Lynn to get anywhere
b] former major employer GE
c] Lynn Woods
d] City of Sin -- "you never come out the way you went in"
e] not even competing with Revere for upscaleness

I think the difference is in the different demographics of Lynn and Quincy -- neither is going to be confused with Newton [about the same size] as a city/suburb

Really it's that simple Whigh? Major highways, golf courses, upscaleness and office parks are conducive to public transit? I think you're confusing public transit with your Audi.

Yes, it's true you "don't need to go to Lynn to get anywhere", but us poor (none Newton and Lexington types) would love to get into Boston to do whatever us poor Lynn folks like to do (like get to work). We're a working class city that would love additional transit options, and whose residents have been waiting a very, very long time.

Instead of comparing Lynn to (insert rich suburb here) and spewing classist rhetoric all over this thread, maybe we could discuss this whole ferry thing...
 
Really it's that simple Whigh? Major highways, golf courses, upscaleness and office parks are conducive to public transit? I think you're confusing public transit with your Audi.

Yes, it's true you "don't need to go to Lynn to get anywhere", but us poor (none Newton and Lexington types) would love to get into Boston to do whatever us poor Lynn folks like to do (like get to work). We're a working class city that would love additional transit options, and whose residents have been waiting a very, very long time.

Instead of comparing Lynn to (insert rich suburb here) and spewing classist rhetoric all over this thread, maybe we could discuss this whole ferry thing...

Alex, just like F-Line you have probably never been to Lexington -- in general we Lexingtonians are not like people from Weston or Wellesley -- At All

While we probably have one of the highest % of the population with advanced degrees -- we are by no means rich -- just middle / working people with a smattering of elderly retired types

My Audi is only in my dreams I drive a 2004 Civic and my wife a 2008 Civic

My point comparing Lynn and Quincy was only to indicate that Lynn needs to fix its own house first before it can make a legitimate claim on taxpayers beyond -- cut your waste, fix your schools, clean-up your crime and you will become a desirable place to work and live -- as you once were

In the mean-time those working in downtown Boston or Cambridge can drive and park at Wonderland or take the bus to the Blue Line -- by the way this the same means we poor folk in Lexington get downtown -- only with Alewife substituted for Wonderland
 
The Lynn Ferry has been running for about three months now, has anyone here taken it?

For now they are running weekdays only, three round trips per day and a $7 cost each way, but it also looks like they accept the $200 / mo Zone 2 commuter rail pass. Funding is expected to last through 2015, at which point they have to figure out some sort of permanent arrangement.
 
http://www.necn.com/news/new-england/No-Injuries-Reported-After-Ferry-Runs-Aground-272969641.html

The U.S. Coast Guard confirms a ferry ran aground near Lynn, Massachusetts, Wednesday evening.
There were no reported injuries among the 13 passengers and four crew members on board the Boston Harbor Cruises ferry, according to authorities.
Coast Guard also said there were no signs of distress with the boat, and that it was not polluting.
Steve Deveau, a passenger, said people on board were a little startled when the ferry very abruptly stopped by the Tides Restaurant in Nahant, but there was no panic. The ferry was stuck for an hour and a half. According to Deveau, Boston Harbor Cruises hasn't offered refunds, but did take everyone's name and addresses.
The ferry has since made it to port in Lynn.

13 passengers. Real winner there...
 
The navigable channel into that harbor is incredibly narrow: http://goo.gl/maps/PUAnc. At low tide it's impossible to go straight out and the ship has to go up the coast to Lynn Waterfront Park, then hang a sharp right and follow Nahant Rd. to get out into open water. And stick to a channel that pinches to 300 ft. wide nearly the whole way. 125 ft. off on either side and it can run aground if it's an especially low tide. Yes, and get caught on lobster traps and other crap.

This was one of the operator's most experienced captains. Rip currents from an offshore tropical system like we had yesterday, stiff wind, a GPS unit that's off a tick...and not even the best of 'em are going to be perfectly error-free every single time threading that needle.

This harbor wasn't designed for high-capacity ferries. It's for barges and pleasure boats. And they can't dredge all that silt that's piling up at the bottom because it's so toxic they can't stir it up. So the Saugus and Pines Rivers, which are already choking on their silt and no longer navigable past the first half-mile, are just going to keep piling up more silt into the harbor.

It is what it is: a lousy place to run a ferry. At least if using the same ferry fleets used everywhere else in New England. And a dozen or two patrons per trip is not gonna cut it for buying a wholly specialized type of ferry that fits for that harbor's unnaturally shallow and meandering channel.

That was always a constraint, and enacting this was always a gimmick. But it was fated that the same pols who kept trotting this proposal out again and again as if nobody before had ever probed the question "So why isn't that moonscape of a harbor bursting with passenger ships?"...were going to have to bellyflop hard and with ample ridicule before getting it through their thick skulls that there were no easy answers.


That waterfront has loads of potential for redevelopment, and loads of potential for more boating. Just not ferries. And definitely not the kind of ferry volumes that merit purchasing shallow-water boats wholly unlike the fleets that run every other ferry in this state.
 
I wonder if the ferry could be made more useful if it stopped at Nahant and/or Winthrop on the way to Boston, or if making the trip even longer would offset any passenger gains.
 
Nahant's only got one wharf, and it's barely large enough to launch a dinghy. Only one near Winthrop big enough is deep inside the Deer Island plant, which isn't going to be an option. And then next-nearest is Logan Ferry Terminal.

Winthrop's got a fast and so-so frequency bus to Orient Heights. Could run a little more often, but only takes 18 minutes to get from Point Shirley to the Blue Line.
 
New Lynn ferry has ripple effect

LYNN — Can a boat transform a city?

It can definitely remake a commute. At the end of a scrubby street in Lynn, bleary-eyed commuters leave their cars on a newly-paved lot and file onto a ferry. It’s 6:30 on a Monday morning, but they’re cheerful and chatty — calling crew members by name, snapping pictures from the windy deck.

Who can blame them for being happy? Instead of inching along in traffic on the blighted Lynnway, or waiting on a chilly platform to board the commuter rail, they are sailing through calm waters lit by a golden sunrise. After the boat, called the Cetacea, traces an arc by Nahant and passes Revere, Deer Island’s glorious digestor eggs come into view. Harbor Islands slide by. A plane passes over before touching down at Logan. Thirty minutes after it sets off, the skyline approaches, then — Oh, hi! — the boat pulls up beside the sea lions at the Aquarium. This is one delirious start to the work week.

Fifteen years ago, this Lynn to Boston ferry was but a twinkle in Senator Tom McGee’s eye, an idea he got on a boat ride from New London to Martha’s Vineyard. For a long time, a lot of people thought he was crazy. Slowly, he built up support in Lynn, then on Beacon Hill. Eventually, the state put up the money to help build a wharf on Blossom Street, and to subsidize a two-year, summer-only pilot for the ferry, which charges $7 a ride and costs about $80,000 a month to run.

Its first season wrapped up on Friday, despite the pleas of passengers, who submitted a six-page petition beseeching authorities to extend the service beyond its already-extended end-date. By the end of August, the ferry had ferried 11,000 riders, far surpassing expectations.

“We’re thrilled with the results we’ve seen,” says Transportation Secretary Rich Davey. The state has its eye on two used ferries that would allow the service to expand beyond its four trips per weekday. Provided the next administration is on board, and sets aside the money to continue it, the Lynn ferry might do for the North Shore what the Hingham ferry did in the south — grow a year-round cult following, spur development.

Lynn sure needs it. You’d be hard-pressed to find a city in the Commonwealth with more unrealized potential than this place. What a waste of an incredible location, 20 minutes from downtown by rail, 15 minutes from Logan. Decades of lousy decisions by local officials have squandered hundreds of acres of prime land. On the waterfront are car dealerships, storage facilities, fast food spots, big box stores, long-abandoned buildings, and weed-choked lots.

But now that it has the ferry, Lynn is getting big ideas. Jim Cowdell, who heads the city’s Economic Development and Industrial Corporation, just applied for a grant to put a new ticket office and restaurant by the wharf. A few seconds away, a giant swath of land that has been vacant for 16 years has just been sold to a developer who intends to build 238 waterside residential units. Cowdell says the ferry was a major selling point. Further down the Lynnway, two other long-fallow parcels appear set to bloom, with more housing for potential ferry devotees. Cowdell is talking about a harbor walk, and transformation.

“I have seen it in other places,” Cowdell says. “A lot of stars are aligned right now. This area is about to take off.”

All over the state, we’ve seen examples of how investing in transportation brings giant returns. An entire new community has sprung up around Wellington Station in Medford. Investing $29 million in a new Orange Line stop at Assembly Square has spurred a $1.5 billion mixed use development.

The payback from transportation investments is often lost in the battles over priorities and appropriations. Sadly, it will probably be lost, too, in the battle over the gas tax ballot question. If it passes, Question 1 would take a $2 billion bite out of the state’s transportation plans over the next decade. That means fewer projects like the Lynn ferry.

If only more voters could have taken a ride on it. That boat carried much more than chuffed passengers. Also on board: The dreams of a city that could use a big break, at long last.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...pple-effect/KcVDaeRZfJjYapWBE0feMM/story.html
 
YvonneAbrahams said:
Instead of inching along in traffic on the blighted Lynnway, or waiting on a chilly platform to board the commuter rail, they are sailing through calm waters lit by a golden sunrise.

Err.. docks are pretty chilly places to wait too...

Eventually, the state put up the money to help build a wharf on Blossom Street, and to subsidize a two-year, summer-only pilot for the ferry, which charges $7 a ride and costs about $80,000 a month to run.

Its first season wrapped up on Friday, despite the pleas of passengers, who submitted a six-page petition beseeching authorities to extend the service beyond its already-extended end-date. By the end of August, the ferry had ferried 11,000 riders, far surpassing expectations.

Let me get this straight: the ferry ran for 85 days at a cost of about $80,000 a month. So that comes out to about $310,000 for the summer or about $275,000 by the end of August. The 11,000 riders by the end of August means a total revenue of $77,000 at best. In fact, many of the riders may have had Zone 2 passes, which entitles them to a free ride.

77/275 = 28% fare recovery rate. That's horrific. That's a subsidy of $18 per ride. Remember that the MBTA canceled the original Night Owl service because the subsidy was about $8 a ride. That was deemed "too high." (more than 3x the cost of average bus service).

Back to the ferry: in order to use it, you had to transport yourself to an out-of-the-way dock on a little used waterfront. That means you had to have a car, most likely. Furthermore, you had to be able to fit your schedule to the two round trips per day. So you probably had a regular downtown 8-5 job where your boss couldn't hold you late at a whim. And you could afford $7 a ticket or a Zone 2 pass.

In other words, you are probably someone who is not struggling to get by. In fact, you probably drove into Lynn from a well-to-do suburb on the North Shore. And yet the state has subsidized a ferry for you to the tune of $18 per ride.

Why exactly? I mean, I'm all for public transit and I accept that we can't seem to run a competent system that pays for itself with fares alone. But I feel that we should try to aim subsidies at helping people who actually need it. This just blowing $18 per ride on a service that only runs two round trips per day and can't really attract more passengers. On a service that is much worse in frequency and span than commuter rail. And it's basically just subsidizing a boat ride for people who most likely do have the means to afford transportation.

All over the state, we’ve seen examples of how investing in transportation brings giant returns. An entire new community has sprung up around Wellington Station in Medford. Investing $29 million in a new Orange Line stop at Assembly Square has spurred a $1.5 billion mixed use development.

Yeah ... and those are both Orange Line stations, Yvonne. That means all-day frequency of trains arriving every 10 minutes or better, typically.

Lynn sure needs it. You’d be hard-pressed to find a city in the Commonwealth with more unrealized potential than this place. What a waste of an incredible location, 20 minutes from downtown by rail, 15 minutes from Logan. Decades of lousy decisions by local officials have squandered hundreds of acres of prime land. On the waterfront are car dealerships, storage facilities, fast food spots, big box stores, long-abandoned buildings, and weed-choked lots.

How the heck is a twice a day ferry supposed to help more than the already existing commuter rail and bus service?

Obviously a Blue Line extension would spur growth. But that's because the Blue Line brings every-10-minutes or better service along with it. Big difference!

The ferry is a novelty. A toy. Mostly usable only by affluent people. It's not serious transit.

Sadly, it will probably be lost, too, in the battle over the gas tax ballot question. If it passes, Question 1 would take a $2 billion bite out of the state’s transportation plans over the next decade. That means fewer projects like the Lynn ferry.

I'm a "NO" supporter on Question 1. But I question myself when I see shitty transit like the Lynn Ferry, or South Coast Rail, get funding. Maybe "YES" is worthwhile, even though it would set a horrible precedent, just to cancel these awful, awful boondoggles.
 
Wait till it runs aground on a sandbar again in that ridiculously narrow channel during winter. I doubt the press is going to be so glowing and willing to gloss over the compromises it makes on fare collection.
 
@Matthew: Ferries are one of those things politicians love because they seem so simple and can point to them as making a difference. It's also a chicken/egg thing where any improved transportation, no matter what the upfront costs, will have a benefit down the road. The unfortunate thing is that Lynn needs way more investment than just a ferry with a high subsidy. If the ferry was part of a larger development plan then it would make sense but for now if just seems like a costly gimmick.

The larger issue is one which was alluded to in the article, that Lynn has had it's potential squandered by politicians over the years. Lynn doesn't need a ferry or even the Blue Line. It has great transportation options already. All it needs is someone to be serious about cleaning it up.
 
It's worth noting that the regular MBTA ferries to Hingham, Hull, and Charlestown collectively have a farebox recovery ratio of 54% - the best of any mode on the MBTA system. The Lynn ferry is half that.
 
It's worth noting that the regular MBTA ferries to Hingham, Hull, and Charlestown collectively have a farebox recovery ratio of 54% - the best of any mode on the MBTA system. The Lynn ferry is half that.

Its takes time for use to build up on any new transit service. You never measure results after 3 months.

Will it reach 54%? I couldnt say, but it can certainly do better.
 
Its takes time for use to build up on any new transit service. You never measure results after 3 months.

Will it reach 54%? I couldnt say, but it can certainly do better.

How long exactly do you wait? I can't imagine the farebox recovery is going to improve during winter when cold discourages ridership and ice is another navigational challenge to that extremely narrow channel they've had enough trouble accurately threading between shallow sandbars. They might be staring at an even bigger farebox recovery hole by spring thaw and spend the rest of the warm season trying to claw back up to that 28% level.

You give it a leash to continue for another year if it can break above a third and look like it's on a growth curve on a rounding-up to 40% when the service is a little better known by start of Warm Season #2. But there are limits. The degree of difference between a farebox recovery mired barely over ¼ over seasonal cycle and one that rounds up to two-fifths and counting is big. These are numbers that get the plug pulled on much more on-paper promising looking bus shuttles public, private, and public-private without benefit of doubt of another year's rope to troubleshoot where their riders are.

There's nothing that different about the ferry mode that doesn't hold it to more or less the same standard. I mean...these are really really low performance bars. Nobody's expecting it to snap right in line with a T ferry. Nobody's giving it very high target expectations at all. Success is not losing its shirt. And, well...this is not the kind of start that lends itself to buying 5 more replacement shirts for it to burn through. 1...sure, absolutely...but peg a minimum recovery threshold for when it's not worth it to allow anything beyond that. I bet that minimum threshold is not going to be any less than 35%. And not less than 40% for year-to-year commitments to merit going to two-year commitments.
 
How long exactly do you wait? I can't imagine the farebox recovery is going to improve during winter when cold discourages ridership and ice is another navigational challenge to that extremely narrow channel they've had enough trouble accurately threading between shallow sandbars. They might be staring at an even bigger farebox recovery hole by spring thaw and spend the rest of the warm season trying to claw back up to that 28% level.

I thought service was summer only?
 
It looks like the Lynn ferry might not live on after the end of the two year pilot period:

Thank you for contacting us regarding the much anticipated Lynn ferry start date.

As of yet, we still have not received funding for the upcoming 2016 season.

If, and when we receive funding, we will work to diligently to get the word out.

(from http://www.ediclynn.org/ferry.shtml)

But in better North Shore maritime transit news, the Winthrop ferry is back in a big way.

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Service starts from Winthrop to Rowe's Wharf on April 18th, with two rush hour trips in the morning and two in the evening, plus a Thursday and Friday night evening boat. There's weekend service too.

The schedule gets a little more complicated this summer with service added in to JFK/UMass and to Spectacle island for the recreational crowd.
 

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