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Where is said "16th floor observation deck?!"
 
Judging from the orientation of the photo, I'm guessing it was in the Logan control tower.
 
Judging from the orientation of the photo, I'm guessing it was in the Logan control tower.

Was it closed after 9/11? I have memories of going up the control tower with my grandparents on our trips to Florida (back when Delta served steak in economy). I can't figure out if they're real memories or dreamed memories though.
 
Some pics of a lost neighborhood

Welcome to the party. The angry seed that grew into my awareness and hatred of misguided urban policy in (and beyond) Boston begins here.

Here's a Flickr photostream sponsored by the National Archives.

Where is said "16th floor observation deck?!"

In the "new" (circa 1973) Control Tower at Logan (pretty sure it's been closed for years). Spent a lot of time up there as a young kid. My dad's office with the State Police was on 18.
 
Was it closed after 9/11? I have memories of going up the control tower with my grandparents on our trips to Florida (back when Delta served steak in economy). I can't figure out if they're real memories or dreamed memories though.

Whoa. I just had one, too. Or, a repressed memory.

Oh, god, now I'm remembering so much! Dadddddddy!

No, seriously, I think we went up there, too.
 
The observation deck closed long before 9/11. IIRC, I think the closure had to do with people taking the elevator up to the FAA floor, or the stairs up.

I remember the last few houses on Neptune Road. Pretty run down, but the owners wouldn't sell to Massport.

The neighborhood didn't survive because it was right under the flight path and runway threshold, and once jets came to Logan, living there became untenable. This was before jet engines had hush kits installed, or evolved into being much quieter. A Boeing 727 at 15000 pounds of thrust originally produced 165 decibels of noise.
 
Neptune Rd.'s remnants are still visible on Google Satellite. Sidewalks, old driveway cuts, grassy tree-lined median and all. Still walkable via Wood Island station, the overpass over the tracks, and Lovell St. because it's outside of the airport fence and serves as a side access driveway to the large employee parking lot there.

http://g.co/maps/mzs9g
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http://g.co/maps/fujtd


Frankfort St. has one lonely, well-kept, occupied triple-decker left on it: http://g.co/maps/esf7e. Somebody must've won the legal standoff. Rest of the lots are all empty and re-landscaped with grass, but you can see the former outlines and driveway curb cuts. Google Street View shows one condemned triple-decker on the other side of Neptune Rd. (http://g.co/maps/9gc9x) that's now disappeared on Satellite view, so the only other holdout must've been demolished within the last 2-3 years.

Some macabre, and very T-accessible, urban exploration to be had there.
 
The observation deck closed long before 9/11. IIRC, I think the closure had to do with people taking the elevator up to the FAA floor, or the stairs up.

The State Police moved out of the tower to Terminal D in the late 80s; I think, and that may have generated some security concern for the higher floors.

About the Observation Deck, I remember bright orange booth seating, a shitty snack bar, and coin-op binoculars.

A Boeing 727 at 15000 pounds of thrust originally produced 165 decibels of noise.

This little bastard was even louder.

Some macabre, and very T-accessible, urban exploration to be had there.

If anyone ever decides they wanna do this, deal me in.

Some additional context for (demolished) 18 Neptune Road, and East Boston's version of "The Lonely Tenement."

After much legal wrangling by some of my neighbors, the East Boston Greenway will be connected end to end right near this historically contentious spot.
 
What did Logan eventually build where this neighborhood used to be? A runway extension?
 
Idk, as much as people hate Logan, Boston wouldn't be the same without it. Our city's economy is greatly stimulated by Logan, as the extremely convenient proximity allows for a trip to Faneuil Hall during as little as a 3 hr layover. Flight attendants regularly come into AE to do some shopping on their layovers as well and these are repeat customers (ie. the entire Lufthansa crew!) spending $200-300 every time. The technology to build man-made islands with airports on them didn't exist yet. What were the alternative locations proposed for Logan, if any?
 
The observation deck closed long before 9/11. IIRC, I think the closure had to do with people taking the elevator up to the FAA floor, or the stairs up.

I remember the last few houses on Neptune Road. Pretty run down, but the owners wouldn't sell to Massport.

The neighborhood didn't survive because it was right under the flight path and runway threshold, and once jets came to Logan, living there became untenable. This was before jet engines had hush kits installed, or evolved into being much quieter. A Boeing 727 at 15000 pounds of thrust originally produced 165 decibels of noise.

Not a lot before then

However in the 1970's it was very popular

in June 1974 -- just before I left for Texas to attend graduate school -- I remember the formal visit of the le Concorde to BOS

A fairly big crowd was in the tower when it landed and when it took-off on a wild and crazy race across the Atlantic

le Concorde took off from Logan at the scheduled take off of the Air France 747 from Paris to Logan -- le Concord sans paying passengers (but there were some observers) zipped across the Atlantic to Charles de Gaulle Airport (IATA: CDG) -- the pilots and cabin crew had a nice lunch -- then then hopped back across the Atlantic and landed at Logan before the Jumbo made the one-way trip CDG to BOS!

see
http://www.concordesst.com/history/eh5.html

Racing against a Jumbo

"At the invitation of the Massachusetts Port Authority. 02 flew to Boston on June 13 to take part in the dedication of the new John Volpe international terminal. The Paris-Boston crossing set a new record at 3hr. 9min., and this was followed the next day by a rapid return flight to Miami.

On June 17, 02 showed its paces to spectacular effect. It took off from Boston at S.22a.m. and, at almost the same time, an Air France Boeing 747 left Paris en route for Boston. The two aircraft crossed when the 747 was 620 miles out of Paris and 02 was nearly 2,400 miles out of Boston. Despite the Concorde turn-round time at Paris being extended to 68 minutes because one passenger could not be found, at the end of its return flight it landed at Boston 11 minutes ahead of the 747. Five hundred businessmen from Brazil, the USA, West Germany, France, and Britain sampled and approved of supersonic travel on these two series of flights, and an estimated crowd of 100,000 people came to see the aircraft while it was on view at Boston, causing the biggest traffic jams ever known there."


after the Concord landed -- the still hot plane was parked next to the "new international terminal" (aka old Terminal E) and they let the crowd get close enough to plane to feel the heat radiating from the fuselage and engine cowlings

That was a plane!! and BOS was the perfect launch pad due to its ability to get a supersonic plane -- going supersonic faster than any East Coast airport

Unfortunately idiot NIMBYs in places such as Neptune Road kept the Concord from more than a handful of subsequent flights.
 
If it closed before 1990, then I must not have gone up. Oh well.
 
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Whoa. I just had one, too. Or, a repressed memory.

Oh, god, now I'm remembering so much! Dadddddddy!

No, seriously, I think we went up there, too.

I remember going 'up' somewhere too, but it was in the 80s. If my memory serves me correctly it was just a small room on perhaps level "5/6" or something like that in Terminal "B" ?
 
^^^^ I was on the AF 747 from Paris to Boston. We seemed to do a bunch of lazy S's in the sky over Labrador. Otherwise.....

Knowing what I now do about tracks, it would be interesting to see whether the 747 took a track that was the speediest that day.

Flight was otherwise unremarkable. Nothing like watching a 747 dump fuel between Scotland and Iceland, which looked like a fire hose, or as riveting as a missed approach in the fog at Sheremetyevo.
 

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