Future Skylines/Developments of the US

I think we should PUSH the FAA & the BRA for developments to push over 800ft-1000ft skyscraper.
There are not that many spots in Boston at this point.

Rents and Real estate prices are out of control. Good families just trying to have families in this city are getting priced out.
It's time to create supply to meet demand concerning society and bring down the overall housing costs for families.

These NIMBY's and Groups are out of control type thinking--- I GOT MINE MENTALITY
 
I think we should PUSH the FAA & the BRA for developments to push over 800ft-1000ft skyscraper.
There are not that many spots in Boston at this point.

Rents and Real estate prices are out of control. Good families just trying to have families in this city are getting priced out.
It's time to create supply to meet demand concerning society and bring down the overall housing costs for families.

These NIMBY's and Groups are out of control type thinking--- I GOT MINE MENTALITY

The FAA doesn't have an 'I got mine mentality' but rather an interest in protecting the traveling public and those living and working in proximity to Logan and airports around the country. They're actually looking out for your interests. The sooner you realize that not everything in the world is a conspiracy against you and people like you, the better off you'll be.
 
The FAA doesn't have an 'I got mine mentality' but rather an interest in protecting the traveling public and those living and working in proximity to Logan and airports around the country. They're actually looking out for your interests. The sooner you realize that not everything in the world is a conspiracy against you and people like you, the better off you'll be.

What does that have to do about bringing the costs down for hardworking families and the city & state meeting their obligations to providing more affordable housing.

Boston is a major city and growing and the FAA needs to adapt.

You have Cambridge Mass talking about building an 800ft tower. How pathetic is that? Cambridge Commercial realestate is outpacing Boston's.


It's time for the FAA/Massport to invest money into better infrastructure to allow the city of Boston to build HIGH RISES to meet the demand issues in Real Estate----This would also help overall Traffic scenario if they continue to build into the core of the city with HEIGHT.

Its time to help out the Public. Anytype of normal housing in or around Boston is running at 500K++ (That's absurb for a working class starter family)
 
The FAA isn't in the business of caring about working families.
 
The FAA isn't in the business of caring about working families.

No but the city/state have to address issues on what is best for public. We have housing running almost at million dollars per unit in nice safe towns--

FAA needs to invest in better equipment that can allow the city/state to build higher towers in the core of the city--BOTTOM LINE---

There are not that many parcels left anyway in the core of the city. so 3-4 highrises hitting the 900-1000ft is not going to be a big deal.

Boston major problem is real estate is becoming unaffordable to the regular working class.
City/State are not helping the situation--
Income inequality is out control in this state---

YES---Legal Immigrants who come from other countries to start a family cannot afford to live in anywhere in the vicinity of Boston because of the high prices of Real Estate.

You know what realized about this group of people on this site against HEIGHT in the city of Boston.
If you were in the ocean on a ship you would pull up the ladder and say sorry we are full to the other groups of people in the ocean.
 
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No but the city/state have to address issues on what is best for public. We have housing running almost at million dollars per unit in nice safe towns--

FAA needs to invest in better equipment that can allow the city/state to build higher towers in the core of the city--BOTTOM LINE---

There are not that many parcels left anyway in the core of the city. so 3-4 highrises hitting the 900-1000ft is not going to be a big deal.

Boston major problem is real estate is becoming unaffordable to the regular working class.
City/State are not helping the situation--
Income inequality is out control in this state---

YES---Legal Immigrants who come from other countries to start a family cannot afford to live in anywhere in the vicinity of Boston because of the high prices of Real Estate.

You know what realized about this group of people on this site against HEIGHT in the city of Boston.

If you were in the ocean on a ship you would pull up the ladder and say sorry we are full to the other groups of people in the ocean.

I agree to a point that Boston is pricey(most of it isn't) but instead of complaining about it endlessly and casting blame(because it's not accomplishing anything), I think you'd be better off either bettering yourself so you can earn a better income or go live somewhere cheaper.
 
I agree to a point that Boston is pricey(most of it isn't) but instead of complaining about it endlessly and casting blame(because it's not accomplishing anything), I think you'd be better off either bettering yourself so you can earn a better income or go live somewhere cheaper.

How do you know I don't have a good job? I'm just saying Boston/Cambridge need to address some serious issues:
The future Growth of Boston
The Future TRANSIT Expansion throughout the state.

We are better than this and we should other legal immigrants be able to start families in this amazing city. Not---- SHUT THEM OUT because they don't have a MILLION in cash to live in a nice town with good schools.
It would be nice to city our City/State Reps help hard working families to help grown in area that has much ambition around the Universities and help people THRIVE in life.

Its like we are creating two worlds in Massachusetts.
Surrounding areas of Boston----VERY RICH SOCIETY
Surrounding areas of Springfield---THE OUTLANDERS

PULL UP THAT LADDER---That group is on their own in the ocean.
 
Eh. When I have to tailor my own clothes or make my own cocktail at a bar, then I'll start worrying that there isn't enough housing for lower income/working people but for now there are plenty who are clearly capable of making do.
 
No but the city/state have to address issues on what is best for public. We have housing running almost at million dollars per unit in nice safe towns--

FAA needs to invest in better equipment that can allow the city/state to build higher towers in the core of the city--BOTTOM LINE---

There are not that many parcels left anyway in the core of the city. so 3-4 highrises hitting the 900-1000ft is not going to be a big deal.

Boston major problem is real estate is becoming unaffordable to the regular working class.
City/State are not helping the situation--
Income inequality is out control in this state---

YES---Legal Immigrants who come from other countries to start a family cannot afford to live in anywhere in the vicinity of Boston because of the high prices of Real Estate.

You know what realized about this group of people on this site against HEIGHT in the city of Boston.
If you were in the ocean on a ship you would pull up the ladder and say sorry we are full to the other groups of people in the ocean.

I don't think you need to be too worried about them. They seem to be able to quickly find jobs and work up the ladder than the typical blue collar rust belt workers who are constantly complaining and doing nothing to better themselves. Pretty soon, they will be able to afford to live in Boston.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/27/us/refugees-jobs-drug-testing/
 
We both know that it's not about immigrants or even working people but it's about insecurities and fear of change. It's about the evolving ethnic neighborhoods and those who either thanks to a poor work ethic or a disregard for education have wound of stuck there falling further behind while others have managed to get ahead and once familiar surroundings evolve.

What I actually care about is Traffic and the high cost of real estate is not healthy for the general society-- if you build higher and offer much more supply on the general markets it can decrease Real estate taxes overall, limit overall traffic scenario help transit run more efficient since there will be high volumes of people focused already at the core of the city.

The Public deserves at least 4-900ft or 1000FT towers now to help slow the inflated real estate values by offering some supply to meet the demand.

It seems you offer no solutions for:
Traffic
Insane Real Estate values
Real Estate taxes
and the outdated Transporation scenario.
Income Inequality happening throughout the city.
 
Towers aren't going to change anything in a meaningful way and you know that, or at least you should. It's only been stated like a thousand times here by people who are pretty fucking knowledgeable on the subject.

Income Inequality happening throughout the city.

Work harder!
 
Traffic-. All big cities have traffic. Raise gas tax.
Insane Real Estate values-. Build more
Real Estate taxes- it's not that much higher here compared to other parts of the country.
and the outdated Transporation scenario- invest in transit using money gained through a higher gas tax.
Income Inequality happening throughout the city-. More affordable education and vocational programs.

There are solutions Rifle.
 
Building Higher in the core of the city connected to the Hardrails:
--Decreases Traffic
--Increases Supply on Units
--Decreases Real Estate values/Real taxes helping Demand scenario
--Helps the city grow in a positive way
--More supply increases overall Tax revenue for the city


I'm not saying build (10) 1000ft Skyscrapers. I'm saying BOSTON needs to go much higher and make a statement.

Also its time that Logan/Massport invest heavily into more Airport infrastructure that will help the airport efficieny along with the great good for the public to help Boston Grow naturally.

Boston/Cambridge Offer good jobs for people. Millionaire families should not be the only ones that get a shot at what Boston offers now.
Great Universities, Great overall Culture, Great jobs.
 
You don't have to be a millionaire. You don't even have to make a decent living. For every family making $1m+ there are probably a hundred who are managing on under $150k and for each of those at $150k, there are probably twenty scraping by but not whining about it at $75k.
 
You don't have to be a millionaire. You don't even have to make a decent living. For every family making $1m+ there are probably a hundred who are managing on under $150k and for each of those at $150k, there are probably twenty scraping by but not whining about it at $75k.

To buy a house and raise a family in a safe area in or around Boston and the surrounding areas its pretty dam expensive.
Everett--Triple deckers are going for 750K-- that's EVERETT--Home of the future casino--

Also if you drastically increase the overall supply in Real estate by bringing down the real estate values hopefully families on Section 8 can actually start to afford to buy something and help them create Wealth for their family.

We need to bring people out of Poverty and help them contribute.

So YES I believe building HIGHER In Boston would be Beneficial across the board
 
Three deckers are mostly bought either as income property or for redevelopment as condos, not as places to raise a family, so $750 is entirely appropriate when you can turn over each unit for $400+. As for the affordability of single family homes, there are forty-eight 3+ br/2+ ba currently listed within the city of Boston under $600k.

$400+ rent? Really---Try $1400-$2100--3 Bedrooms. And it will continue to CLIMB---

400+ what's that Chicago Southside rents?
 
$400k as a condo unit.

Everett is majority Section 8---Those people will get pushed right out of the home due to the lack of Building around the surrounding areas.

Yes. I get it that people should educated themselves and try to better there situation. But some people are not programmed to think of Finances, Real Estate valuations, or other aspects of the economy they are just looking to survive.

As an educated person---I love the ignorant comment work harder? As I'm a trusted Taxpayer into this corrupted fucking system as I'm watching our past Politicians hand over very special real estate & tax deals on prime real estate land in Boston. As our taxes & rents continue to increase--dramatically.

How do you justify making an ignorant comment like that as I'm watching the same group of muther-fuckers getting bailed-out because they made bad bets in the overall general markets only to keep these Real Estate values at insane levels especially on prime real estate.
Its like stealing from the working-class and just swindling their real estate which happens to be well-located because of inflation.

It's basically our obligation to protect the people that can't help themselves sometimes from your backwards logic of saying Work Harder as the politicians/Corporations just swindle everything around you with real value and true wealth.
HOW DO YOU JUSTIFY A COMMENT LIKE THAT TO A FELLOW TAXPAYER?
 
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I've been biting my tongue on this comment as I've watched you two debate, but at this point it needs to be said:

The issue isn't income stratification, which as kmp1284 points out, can be OK. If we want a meritocracy...if we value risk-takers...if we value those who are OK with being service workers. Stratification is fine.

The issue is income inequality, whereby as a nation's productivity increases (as usually indicated by GDP growth), those gains only go to a limited few. In other words, if everyone works harder and more output is produced, but then some people scheme the system to get disproportionately richer off the same output, whereby others (who are working just as hard as they did the day before) have a flat income while cost of living increases around them. This is exploitation. It is indicated by someone working just as hard being able to afford a loaf of bread one day, and not being able to afford that same loaf of bread the next despite not changing anything else about their lives.

So, yea, we need to be able to house Boston's service workers...and they need to make a living wage. And I am not sure whether they are all making a living wage right now.

Here's the picture that says it all...wage growth tracked national productivity growth from WWII until early 1980s:
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BigPicture--- I agree with what everything you wrote. ---Except KMP comment on income Inequality being okay

You pretty much describe how Inflation is increasing very dramatically in Boston which can only be stopped by rising Interest rates.

#1 Interest rates determine labor value (Low Interest rates destroyed the buying power of the working class people) They have gotten their productivity stolen from them. Just look your charts.

#2 Throughout all the Banker Bailouts & the QE money the real money went to the stock market to hold up the stock valuations including real estate values. Its not like some working stiff at StopNShop can actually qualify for a homeowners loan for 400K+ Condo.
This helped both Wall St and the Govt to dump all those bad loans back into the market with increasing real estate tax revenue as properties rise due to the low interest rates and bailouts to the bankers.

So what is Boston End game?
The city needs to encourage big-time developments at this point to bring the cost of real estate down and help increase tax revenue to a sane level for the overall good of the area help improve the transit flow throughout the area.

Boston cannot stay the same---REAL CHANGE needs to happen now to help working class workers service Boston:
Seaport is not enough---Boston will never go back to the 70's and 80's type era "Affordable blue collared city"---Unless a Zombie Apocalypse--
 

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