Great Scott Redevelopment | 1 Harvard Ave | Allston

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An LOI for building a Great Scott successor has been filed. We'll have to wait for the PNF, but some key points below:
The proponent team will pair this renewed 300-capacity music performance venue (Great Scott) with the retention and reconstruction of the 75-capacity O'Brien's Pub performance venue... Above the actively-programmed ground floor, and separated from that level by an acoustical barrier, will be 139 residential units.
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The proposed new building will have a building height of approximately 105 feet and will contain approximately 95,000 square feet of gross floor area. The project will not include any off-street automobile parking...
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BPD Project:
https://www.bostonplans.org/projects/development-projects/1-harvard-avenue

For more context:
https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/202...usic-venue-great-scott-will-return-to-allston
https://www.wgbh.org/culture/2024-0...sic-venue-great-scott-will-be-back-and-better
https://www.universalhub.com/2024/developers-will-soon-file-plans-300-seat
 
Glad to see it and hope it's approved quickly, especially with the Middle East venues probably having their days numbered.
 
A tidbit of how they'll make it work that we got from one of the developers for our story yesterday: https://bankerandtradesman.com/legendary-music-halls-second-act-seeks-housing-harmony-in-allston/

The building design will isolate sound from the music venue from the apartments above with installation of a “floating floor” that essentially separates the building into two separate structures, Warshaw said. It will include a green awning replicating Great Scott’s signature entrance.
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FK4 said:
Really?
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The Saters listed it for sale in 2020 but pulled it off the market when no buyers showed up (or at least at their price).

In 2022, they proposed to demolish the whole complex and build a 6-story hotel on the site, albeit with 2 music venue spaces on the ground + basement levels - but the net result if that got built would be much less than is there today for performance spaces, especially small performance spaces like some of the ones it currently hosts.

Between the two attempts and I think a previous one a few years further back, I don't have a whole lot of confidence that something isn't going to eventually happen to redevelop the site, and I expect the final product will result in a net loss of venues/performance spaces, even if something remains.
 

Designs Revealed for Great Scott Development in Allston

Designs Revealed for Great Scott Development in Allston
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This has the double story windows, offset windows, but it looks awesome and it works.
 
This one crosses the line from typical 5 over 1 to shitty modern art museum in terms of vibes and I quite like it. I like that they went with grey rather than red.
 
Longfellow said:
This one crosses the line from typical 5 over 1 to shitty modern art museum in terms of vibes and I quite like it. I like that they went with grey rather than red.
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Well it’s nine stories so they’re required to use real materials, and when that happens you tend to get better results!
 
Longfellow said:
This one crosses the line from typical 5 over 1 to shitty modern art museum in terms of vibes and I quite like it. I like that they went with grey rather than red.
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Ah ha - you're onto something: they should in fact throw in a shitty modern art museum as a public benefit to bolster the proposal
 
On the left side the shorter horizontal panels indent inward, whereas on the right side they indent outward. It's not a perfect balance, but then we also don't even know if it's 3 sided or 4 sided based on the single render.
 
DZH22 said:
On the left side the shorter horizontal panels indent inward, whereas on the right side they indent outward.
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That might be an optical illusion. To me, it looks as if the shorter panels indent outward on both sides. We will need quite a few more and better renders or the site plan to know for sure.
 
HenryAlan said:
That might be an optical illusion. To me, it looks as if the shorter panels indent outward on both sides. We will need quite a few more and better renders or the site plan to know for sure.
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Just to confirm we're talking about the same things I yellow-highlighted them. The ones on the left appear to turn inwards whereas the ones on the right turn outwards.

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DZH22 said:
Just to confirm we're talking about the same things I yellow-highlighted them. The ones on the left appear to turn inwards whereas the ones on the right turn outwards.
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Yes, the same thing. But on a 2 dimensional render of a 3 dimensional space, you can't actually tell. The yellow highlights do make at least some of them appear inward to me, but some still appear to move outward. That said, the building footprint as displayed in Equalibria's post appears to confirm your read on it.
 
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bigpicture7 said:
I can't say I'm a fan...but I know enough to know Charli XCX just played TD Garden. This render implies quite the ambitious transformation from the 80-seat, sticky-floored dive bar Great Scott was a few years ago to now ;) (Or quite the rapid career downfall of said artist)
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The OG Great Scott had a capacity of 240
 
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