LA braces for "Carmageddon"

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So this has been all over the news lately. The 405 is about to be closed tonight and through this weekend for 53 hours and people are anticipating the worst traffic jam in history. (This could also be quite possibly the worst overreaction in history too - It's only 53 hours, not days, weeks, months etc). If this isn't a sign that ideals need to change in this country, I don't know what is.

MSNBC said:
LOS ANGELES — The City of Angels is on edge as the hours tick off until "Carmageddon" — the shutdown of a 10-mile stretch of one of the busiest highways in the United States, on one of the city's busiest summer weekends.

Will it bring traffic to a standstill like a scene out of a summer disaster movie? Or fail to come to pass, like other apocalypse predictions?

Everyone will find out soon enough as authorities prepare to close Interstate 405 for 53 hours beginning Friday night.

Around the afternoon rush hour, the city will activate its emergency operation center before highway officers begin blocking access to on- and off-ramps.

Then they'll close freeway lanes one by one until they reach a full shutdown by midnight.

Non-emergency street maintenance and repair projects will come to a halt. Police, firefighters, paramedics and traffic engineers will be on standby to respond to any crisis that may arise.

Grim warnings
For weeks, officials have issued grim warnings about the closure in the same tones reserved for floods and threatening wildfires.
Video: Surviving 'Carmageddon': 53-hour closure of LA's 405 freeway (on this page)

To prepare the public for the closure, they flashed signs on freeways as far away as San Francisco reminding drivers over and over: Stay off the 405 July 16-17. They recruited celebrities with large followings on Twitter, such as Ashton Kutcher and Kim Kardashian, to get the message out.

Facebook agreed to direct some 6.6 million driving-age people in the greater Los Angeles area to the Metropolitan Transportation Authority's Facebook page detailing the latest traffic conditions this weekend.

'It's going to be fine'
Transportation experts said the publicity campaign seems to be working.

They now predict that while there will likely be some backups on other freeways and on surface streets near the 405, the weekend shouldn't end in massive gridlock.

"It's going to be fine, people had a lot of warning," said Lisa Schweitzer, a professor of urban planning at the University of Southern California.

Experts compared the shutdown to other big planned events, such as the 1984 summer Olympics, Los Angeles Lakers championship parades and Michael Jackson's memorial service two years ago.

The disastrous traffic jams predicted for each of those events never materialized. People knew to stay off the road. In fact, city residents marveled that, during the two weeks of the Olympics, traffic was actually much lighter than usual.
Video: Carmageddon: One day away (on this page)

"For the 1984 Olympics, by repeating how complex and difficult it's going to be, some people chose not to travel, to take public transit or go away for vacation," said Martin Wachs of the Rand Corp. think tank.

That could be the case again this weekend. Not that some people aren't still worried, as closing that section of the 405 for such a long time is pretty much unprecedented.

Judy Feldman of New York and her husband had planned a trip to Southern California long before they learned of the closure. They planned to spend the weekend going into the city.

Now, all she's been hearing has been one message about their plans: "No, I wouldn't do that."

Their planned trip to the popular Getty Center museum is out, as it's located right in the middle of Carmageddon and will simply close down that weekend. So will the nearby Skirball Cultural Center.

"We'll be glad when Monday is here," said Skirball spokeswoman Mia Carino, who is cautiously optimistic that she'll be able to drive to work that day.

Feldman and her husband still hope to get to Los Angeles to take in other museums.

50-year-old bridge
Transportation officials say the closure is necessary to replace the 50-year-old Mulholland Bridge as part of a $1 billion project to widen a perpetually bottlenecked segment of the 405.

That stretch goes through the Sepulveda Pass, which connects the San Fernando Valley to Los Angeles' West Side.

They say a full closure is necessary to demolish one side of the span, and they picked this weekend to minimize impact to traffic on a workday. They expect another closure next year to replace the other half.

On a typical July weekend, about a half-million vehicles use that section to get to such major destinations as Los Angeles International Airport, UCLA, Beverly Hills and numerous popular beaches.

To discourage driving, the city is offering free rides on the subway and certain bus lines and adding more commuter train service. Hotels and restaurants are offering discounts.
L.A. braces for 'Carmageddon,' hopes for good karma

Some residents plan to 'just be silly'
Around town, some people are organizing neighborhood walks, bicycle rides and even "Carmageddon" parties.

Joann Killeen, who lives near the 405, is going to attend such a party Saturday at her next-door-neighbor's house.

"We're going in our garages and looking for old Scrabble boards and Monopoly games and we're going to bring potlucks and just be silly from about 5 o'clock until midnight," she said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43765517/ns/us_news-life/
 
Didn't we close I-93 during the Democratic National Convention back in 2004? Boston survived.
 
The most awful thing is that the news has spun it "Short term pain, long term gain" - for what, a new HOV lane which will somehow save LA from gridlock nightmare? And yet, transit - whether high speed or metro expansion - are purely just long-term taxpayer pain. Makes sense... or not. My friend who lives in Long Beach (wife works as a resident in a hospital there) has absolutely no transit options to reach his Westside job.

The tragedy is that LA overall is actually surprisingly dense - not in an NYC way of course but still largely a quite dense form of autotopia ... all that amounts to though is a lot of people living in rather close-ish proximity who all need cars to get where they want to go.

Along with several other global cities (J'burg comes to mind) LA (county? SoCal?) is completely unprepared for the century ahead, culturally if not in terms of infrastructure.
 
It's all media hype. Anyone who needs to use the 405 will find another route and anyone who might have needed it will just avoid it because it's close. Traffic planning is so counter intuitive, more roads means more driving; less roads means less (to an extent). Since this will be for only 53 hours nothing will happen.
 
There's a Green Line-ish streetcar from Long Beach to downtown LA, and soon there will be another from downtown LA to Santa Monica. So your friend may be able to use that in a couple of years.
 
still largely a quite dense form of autotopia ... all that amounts to though is a lot of people living in rather close-ish proximity who all need cars to get where they want to go.
The closest they can get, plus a driveway.

...LA (county? SoCal?) is completely unprepared for the century ahead, culturally if not in terms of infrastructure.
This was how I was feeling when I read this too. When do you think LA's breaking point will be? With the California mentality, I wouldn't be surprised if they just kept expanding it decade after decade, pushing 20 lanes.
 
When do you think LA's breaking point will be? With the California mentality, I wouldn't be surprised if they just kept expanding it decade after decade, pushing 20 lanes.

That's more of a Texas approach. They've got a lot of land and imagine that another 30 lanes will somehow fix all of their traffic woes. The 405, 110 and 10 in LA have nowhere to expand to. The Sepulveda Pass is only so wide. A further 405 expansion would require every ramp to be reconstructed again, and all of the frontage roads removed. And then mountains to be moved to rebuild the frontage roads. On top of that, by the looks of it, the new Mulholland Drive bridge won't really permit any more lanes beyond this project.

Expanding the freeway network in LA proper would require something along the lines of the 1960s Urban Renewal - Boston Style.

LA is actually dead serious about fixing its mistakes with mass transit. Even the lawmakers who were against rail a few years ago - to the point of passing laws to make light rail construction illegal - have transformed into supporters.

The 30 in 10 Plan is a truly amazing, visionary thing that would never, ever, ever happen in Boston. It's got a lot of support, and the biggest complaints are that construction will take too long. People are just tired of the traffic and want something to be done.

While you still have a car culture and the belief that transit "wouldn't work in LA, it's too spread out", there is still this widespread, deep longing for a system to rival NYC or even Boston. Keep in mind how many of us are East Coast transplants, and know what we're missing. There is a lot of doubt as to how viable it'll all be, but even many detractors will eventually admit to you that "it would be nice" if it actually came to pass.
 
That's more of a Texas approach. They've got a lot of land and imagine that another 30 lanes will somehow fix all of their traffic woes. The 405, 110 and 10 in LA have nowhere to expand to. The Sepulveda Pass is only so wide. A further 405 expansion would require every ramp to be reconstructed again, and all of the frontage roads removed. And then mountains to be moved to rebuild the frontage roads. On top of that, by the looks of it, the new Mulholland Drive bridge won't really permit any more lanes beyond this project.

Expanding the freeway network in LA proper would require something along the lines of the 1960s Urban Renewal - Boston Style.

LA is actually dead serious about fixing its mistakes with mass transit. Even the lawmakers who were against rail a few years ago - to the point of passing laws to make light rail construction illegal - have transformed into supporters.

The 30 in 10 Plan is a truly amazing, visionary thing that would never, ever, ever happen in Boston. It's got a lot of support, and the biggest complaints are that construction will take too long. People are just tired of the traffic and want something to be done.

While you still have a car culture and the belief that transit "wouldn't work in LA, it's too spread out", there is still this widespread, deep longing for a system to rival NYC or even Boston. Keep in mind how many of us are East Coast transplants, and know what we're missing. There is a lot of doubt as to how viable it'll all be, but even many detractors will eventually admit to you that "it would be nice" if it actually came to pass.

Thank you for the insight. I'm glad to see that Cali is finally looking forward into fixing their mass transit to relieve the overcrowded roads.

Did you see the tweets on their featured feeds? Impressive transit increases with the closed highway and free service:

I_405: SA-ALL: Metro ridership on the Green Line also up 10-15%. #405Official
Sat, Jul 16, 06:13 PM PDT

I_405: SA-ALL: Metro subway ridership up 10-15% from normal today. Orange County line to LA up 10% today. #405Official
Sat, Jul 16, 05:59 PM PDT

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Also, Carmageddon never happened. They were showing chopper footage on the news and everyone was just avoiding the 405 altogether, not just the stretch that was closing.
 

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