Wedgemere and West Medford become regular stops off-peak.
What's the practical impact of changing a stop from a flag stop to a full time stop?
Wedgemere and West Medford become regular stops off-peak.
What's the practical impact of changing a stop from a flag stop to a full time stop?
Depends on how often nobody was there.
In the off-peak trains are infrequent, so if someone is rushing to make the train and makes it to the parking lot but not platform before the train gets there and it passes. They’ll have to wait up to a couple hours for another. Having the train stop either way makes it possible to catch the train last second and since it’s the off-peak there’s negligible different in journey time from stopping at the two stations. Improves the experience of the customer no longer having to be there early or bust.Obviously, but then that begs the question of why trains would stop at location where no one is getting on or off. According to the T, this will "improve the passenger experience" though I'm not sure how no longer having to be visible on the platform or having to inform the conductor of your stop meaningfully improves things.
I was talking with a friend of mine about how Melrose prohibits the Orange Line for racist/classist reasons and how the OL should replace the two southernmost CL stops. He said that Melrose has great MBTA CL access already. I countered that the Zone 1 privileges Melrose enjoys adds ten minutes to a Haverill train… and that is also kinda racist/classist by design. I’m just wondering how that town holds on to 3 CL stops. Kinda gluttonous when other town get passed by elsewhere. Thoughts?At Wyoming. Where standing on the platform you can see Oak Grove (snark over).
Im assuming you are referring to the new developments right on the Melrose line, but those are 95% residential and aren't really a draw for any CR commuters. Most of the walkshed is SFR on Main St, Pine Banks park and the Fells. Considering Malden Center got less than 150 riders per day pre pandemic, Im not holding my breath Oak Grove would do more than 30.
In my opinion, it’s degrading service for essentially every Haverhill line rider to serve a few dozen passengers who already have excellent bus/subway options.
Same with how closely spaced the Winchester stops are, before Winchester center closed. Winchester center is the only one dense enough in that town to deserve a transit stop imo.I was talking with a friend of mine about how Melrose prohibits the Orange Line for racist/classist reasons and how the OL should replace the two southernmost CL stops. He said that Melrose has great MBTA CL access already. I countered that the Zone 1 privileges Melrose enjoys adds ten minutes to a Haverill train… and that is also kinda racist/classist by design. I’m just wondering how that town holds on to 3 CL stops. Kinda gluttonous when other town get passed by elsewhere. Thoughts?
I countered that the Zone 1 privileges Melrose enjoys adds ten minutes to a Haverill train… and that is also kinda racist/classist by design. I’m just wondering how that town holds on to 3 CL stops. Kinda gluttonous when other town get passed by elsewhere. Thoughts?
I was talking with a friend of mine about how Melrose prohibits the Orange Line for racist/classist reasons
If the T went to the town tomorrow and said we’ll do an OLX to Wyoming ( or Reading), Melrose would be 100% on board, no? I think its an Arlington situation where the opinions/ incentives RE rapid transit have shifted 180 degrees since the 70’s / 80’s; the towns want it (or would at least be neutral) but the T can’t / won’t deliver.
Regardless of ridership, those 3.5 Melrose stops (including Oak Grove) are brutal for everyone North of Reading.
If the T went to the town tomorrow and said we’ll do an OLX to Wyoming ( or Reading), Melrose would be 100% on board, no? I think its an Arlington situation where the opinions/ incentives RE rapid transit have shifted 180 degrees since the 70’s / 80’s; the towns want it (or would at least be neutral) but the T can’t / won’t deliver.
Regardless of ridership, those 3.5 Melrose stops (including Oak Grove) are brutal for everyone North of Reading.
Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but AFAIK the conventional wisdom is that Haverhill trains will be rerouted over to the Wildcat Branch if any OLX happens. That being said, that would make a partial OLX more challenging (eg any build that doesn’t go all the way to Reading).Can the right-of-way even accommodate a +1 to Wyoming Hill while still retaining Haverhill Line service through Melrose?
I imagine that of feasibility was of no concern, Melrose would be mostly in support of such a project, but I am unsure of feasibility. I’m sure someone on here knows. Thoughts?
Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but AFAIK the conventional wisdom is that Haverhill trains will be rerouted over to the Wildcat Branch if any OLX happens. That being said, that would make a partial OLX more challenging (eg any build that doesn’t go all the way to Reading).
It would be problematic. The ROW is barely wide enough for 3 tracks, and pinches tight right after Oak Grove alongside Banks Place. There's no room for tail tracks unless you eliminated the grade crossing, which negatively impacts Orange's resiliency if you have nowhere to stuff an out-of-service consist. The egresses would be very constipated if the CR grade crossing stayed. And unless you eliminated the grade crossing you basically preclude any further Orange extension lest you need to blow up WH and start all over.Can the right-of-way even accommodate a +1 to Wyoming Hill while still retaining Haverhill Line service through Melrose?
I imagine that of feasibility was of no concern, Melrose would be mostly in support of such a project, but I am unsure of feasibility. I’m sure someone on here knows. Thoughts?
Melrose, 100% on board with anything?
I think there'd be a decent base of support, and a virulent, vocal opposition.
I think a lot of the opposition would at least turn to ambivalence once their realtors inform them of the free 100k of home equity an OL stop would net them.