Melnea Cass Blvd

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Theyre not planning well for future transit, but they never do.
There original design included center running brt lanes. Public didn't want it so it was removed. This goes back 10 years or so. The whole point was to better connect this neighborhood to hook centers.
 

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Boston Cyclist Union says keep the trees by threading a 2-way cycle track through the existing trees.

Mature trees are key urban features: shading, quieting, cleaning (the air). In studies they are associated with several percent and increase in property value. (Things like $10000/unit per mature tree)

Racism might be too strong, but a lot of what defines enclaves like Newton, Weston and Winchester is the trees. There's definitely White Privilege / Green Privilege at play here
Not to play Devils Advocate, but doesn’t that analogy to Newton, Weston etc. Need to take into account population density also? I’m not sure trees are the larger issue. (Albeit AN issue).
 
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Not to play Devils Advocate, but doesn’t that analogy to Newton, Weston etc.need to take into account population density also? I’m not sure trees are the larger issue. (Albeit AN issue).
Better comparison would be closer: Back Bay and South End have much better tree canopies than Roxbury.
 

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Is Melnea Cass BLVD considered Methodone Mile? Is this Methodone Mile? What exactly is Methodone Mile?
 

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Is Melnea Cass BLVD considered Methodone Mile? Is this Methodone Mile? What exactly is Methodone Mile?
I can't really find a definitive answer, but here's a cool online 3D map that layers in the relevant info: https://www.arcgis.com/home/webscene/viewer.html?webscene=a3cf3cecd2864d48a833ef380f6ebdc7
(opioid overdoes, opioid incidents, and a border around Mass Ave from Shawmut to Melnea)

I don't see much of the main intersection anymore, but a large tent camp was along Washinton across the corner from Tropical Food for awhile. It got cleared out a couple weeks ago.
A few small tents set up along the rest of the road.

On the bike lane, I really don't see how Cyclist Union thinks they can thread a path through the existing tree lines. There's really just not enough space, and the places where they've got the sidewalk currently are already messed up from the roots. If they build it there again, it'll just end up like the S Bay Harbor trail on the north side of the road, which is an absolute joke of a paved surface. And also too far away from the main road where the winding it does to meet the intersections is a PITA.

Does anyone have a link to the current proposed plan for the road? I can't find it again.
 

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Is Melnea Cass BLVD considered Methodone Mile? Is this Methodone Mile? What exactly is Methodone Mile?
Mass Ave. between Washington and Southampton is "The Mile"...peaking at Boston Med Ctr. It overspills the first block of Melnea Cass where it crosses, but is pretty much over by Albany St.

Trust me...you KNOW when you're in Methadone Mile. The sights are utterly unmistakable.:(
 

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Boston Cyclist Union says keep the trees by threading a 2-way cycle track through the existing trees.

Mature trees are key urban features: shading, quieting, cleaning (the air). In studies they are associated with several percent and increase in property value. (Things like $10000/unit per mature tree)

Racism might be too strong, but a lot of what defines enclaves like Newton, Weston and Winchester is the trees. There's definitely White Privilege / Green Privilege at play here
I wasnt talking about roxbury as a whole though, Im saying this specific project theres really no good way to fix the bike lane without cutting the trees and theyre going to be replaced 1 to 1. Mature trees should be kept at all costs, I agree, but with (this particular project) theres going to have to be a compromise somewhere. I agree with the other poster where trying to ram a highway through the neighborhood was clear racism. Here (only this project) theres 2 options, fit a shitty half assed bike lane between the trees, or cut em and replant. You could argue just as easily that slapping a half assed bike lane between the trees is racism too, when other neighborhoods get the full treatment. Its a situation where theres going to need to be compromise and they need to be clear about that during the community input.
 

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Put Melnea Cass Blvd on a road diet, by narrowing it to one thru lane each way plus a center turn lane, and you'd have plenty of room for a bike path without cutting any trees. If the bulldozing of neighborhoods in the 1960's for the Inner Belt Expresssway had not been done (which it shouldn't have), then there would be no Melnea Cass Blvd. today at all. Given that, the 1+1+turn lane is a bonus for traffic,
 

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Put Melnea Cass Blvd on a road diet, by narrowing it to one thru lane each way plus a center turn lane, and you'd have plenty of room for a bike path without cutting any trees. If the bulldozing of neighborhoods in the 1960's for the Inner Belt Expresssway had not been done (which it shouldn't have), then there would be no Melnea Cass Blvd. today at all. Given that, the 1+1+turn lane is a bonus for traffic,
As long as we're provisioning for real-deal traffic separation [B/L]RT transit bolted to the center, because M.C. is the linchpin of the Urban Ring so badly needed here as the "equal or better" transit tandem solution. This is going to be carrying Urban Ring SE quadrant BRT to Southie + the JFK spur someday. I can see that build ultimately--when it's go-time--trenching the median-bolted reservation down into an underpass of Mass Ave. where quasi-subway station of stop platforms takes up the under-footprint of the intersection with ped-safe egresses shooting out to all the corners. Then continuation back up to surface reservation on Mass Ave. Connector. JFK spur peels off onto the Frontage Roads past the shopping center with its graft-on lane before getting on Boston St., Southie 'mainline' shoots straight ahead onto a Haul Rd. that's realigned over the southern tip of Widett to square up with the Mass Ave. Ext./Frontage intersection and runs in truck traffic to a couple bulb-out station platforms @ Dot Ave., W. Broadway, and so on. Say in the process of walling in the transit reservation on M.C. you close the median to making Hampden a thru street across (i.e. right-turns only). You'd then have complete 100% transit traffic and signal separation from Albany to Frontage...or about four-fifths the combined 'mainline' distance of the two UR routes before they diverge from each other. That would be an enormous get for traffic management.

Sanctity of the protected transit reservation is going to have to be an utmost priority while hashing out the M.C. road diet because feeding full traffic protection into that would-be Mass Ave. station/underpass that gets added for the Ring is pretty much the sum total schedule-maker for that quadrant to have it spared from any road traffic interaction whatsoever through the gut-most congestion of South Bay. Can't pussyfoot with the width allowances. Maybe it's not an outright jersey-barriered reservation until the incline approaches to Mass Ave., but it's definitely got to have the shoulder width to be pop-up barriered or rumble-stripped from the nearest adjacent car lane...something more permanently/physically marked from left-shoulder swerving than simply a painted median bus lane. That does carry a buffering allowance that's at least a couple feet wider than mere paint job. All doable while saving the parkland and cutting fewer trees...but a width budgeting that's still going to have sweaty moments and give/take at finding fits for each component. While not nearly as hard as they're making this out to be, I definitely wouldn't call it an easy portioning job in the strips of greatest current controversy...so portion with due caution. We're not done by a longshot enacting the M.C. roadway master plan solely from decisions made this year.
 
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