Millennium Tower (Filene's) | 426 Washington Street | Downtown

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Wouldn't driving down land values be good for developers, as they would be able to put more money towards development and less towards land purchase?
 
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Menino's support will come with strings attached:
Despite publicly flogging a New York real estate company for failing to redevelop the former Filene?s site in Downtown Crossing, Boston Mayor Thomas M. Menino is backing its bid to build a casino at Suffolk Downs.
 
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Those aren't strings, PaulC -- looks more like a noose from my front yard.

Perhaps we could drop Larry Flynt a note. I recall that one of his publications features monthly recognition for public service consistent with the Mayor's unique urban planning vision.
 
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One story in the papers many years back was that when Menino wanted Millinium Place I built in the combat zone he dangled Millinium Place II in front of the developer. When he got what he wanted he yanked Millimium II away.
 
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Developer may exit Filene?s project
City?s deadline is approaching
By Casey Ross, Globe Staff | July 14, 2010


With Boston officials threatening to revoke its permit, the co-owner of the $750 million Filene?s redevelopment in Downtown Crossing is seeking to pull out of the massive project and sell its stake to another developer, according to people involved in the discussions.

A change of ownership could be the first sign of progress since work on the property stopped two years ago ? although it is unclear whether a new owner would have more success getting financing than Vornado Realty Trust of New York has had.

Since mid-2008, the site of the promised 39-story office and residential complex has been little more than a giant hole in the city?s central shopping district.

Vornado executives declined to comment yesterday.

The New York real estate firm?s departure would probably be well received at City Hall, where Boston Mayor Thomas M. Menino has been critical of how the firm?s executives have handled the project and has repeatedly pressed the development team to move forward.

Just two weeks ago, Menino?s top development aide, Boston Redevelopment Authority director John Palmieri, sent Vornado a letter threatening to revoke its city permits if the development team is unable to resume building by Sept. 26, the three-year deadline under the permit for proceeding with construction on the shuttered work site.

The developers, which include John B. Hynes III, halted work in June 2008 when they were unable to raise construction financing following the global credit crisis and recession. A revocation would force them to devise a new plan for building on the property.

Hynes, who is managing partner of the project for JP Morgan and Mack-Cali Realty Corp., its other major investors, said he is in discussions with several potential investors.

?We work on it every day in some form,?? Hynes said. ?I have some interested parties, but nothing has come through yet.??

It?s unclear whether a change in ownership would persuade the city to extend the Filene?s permit. It?s also unclear what level of interest the project is drawing within the real estate community.

So far, the chief executive of Boston Residential Group, a luxury home builder, acknowledged he is interested and would like to build apartments and stores on the property.

?I?m certainly a believer in the Downtown Crossing neighborhood,?? said Curtis R. Kemeny, the Boston Residential Group chief executive. ?We?ve had positive discussions with the current owners about our concept, and we hope those discussions will continue.??

Boston Residential has remade several properties in Boston, including 360 Newbury St., the former Tower records building on the corner of Massachusetts Avenue. Kemeny converted it to 54 luxury condos with 46,000 square feet remaining for retail space. He also redeveloped 285 Columbus Ave. into 63 loft units and 10,000 square feet of retail.

While Kemeny was successful with those two projects, the Filene?s block would be a significant step up in scale and complexity for him.

Failure by the Filene?s development team to move forward on any front by the deadline could have significant consequences for the redevelopment effort. The permit allows Hynes and Vornado to build a 1.2 million-square-foot tower on the site. But if they were to lose the permit to inaction, there is no guarantee the city would allow another development of that size again.

Still, Vornado?s exit could be seen as a step forward, since the firm?s executives are out of favor with Menino, who has made redevelopment of the Filene?s block a top priority. In March, Menino accused Vornado executives of deliberately allowing the property to become blighted in order to pressure the city to provide funding or other help.

?This development is too important to Downtown Crossing and to the entire City of Boston to be used as a bargaining chip to improve your bottom line,?? Menino wrote at the time.

The most recent letter from the city does not have the same angry tone as Menino?s missives, but it makes clear Boston officials are running out of patience and appear unlikely to give the developers any leeway if they do not meet the deadline.

Palmieri wrote that if they fail to move forward with construction, then he will ?undertake promptly?? a review and determination about the status of their permits. The letter indicated the city could revoke those permits and force the developers to resubmit their application, triggering another review process that could take several months.

The primary stumbling block for the project remains money. With the economy still sluggish, many large real estate developments cannot find banks or other investors willing to underwrite the steep construction cost of large projects, and that problem does not appear likely to ease anytime soon, real estate specialists said.

After halting construction, the Filene?s redevelopment lost the one major office tenant that had pledged to move into the new building, a law firm that instead signed a deal to move to another new building, on the South Boston Waterfront. Also the project?s primary hotel investor backed out.

Hynes said he has been trying to revise the project to focus more on residential development ? the only type of product that has remained attractive to lenders ? but most do not want to risk such a large project.

?If you looked for large construction loans issued in the last 24 months, you probably wouldn?t find any,?? he said. ?Eventually it?s going to soften up, but we haven?t seen it yet.??

http://www.boston.com/business/arti...ave_stalled_downtown_crossing_project/?page=2
 
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"The primary stumbling block for the project remains money. With the economy still sluggish, many large real estate developments cannot find banks or other investors willing to underwrite the steep construction cost of large projects, and that problem does not appear likely to ease anytime soon, real estate specialists said."

No Shit. I actually thought they might be able to barter and build the Filene's project. Trade a couple of cows and donkeys for some Labor.

Maybe Vornado, JPMorgan, and Hynes PAID too much for the site. So now they will bailout Vornado and Hynes on our dime then hand the development to one of their friends for a much cheaper price. Gee that makes so much sense now.

This project will be some Luxury condo box POS. Downtown is ruined for a long-time until the city of Boston can start generating some Blue Chip players back into the city.

NO character..........Imagine if we actually had real people running the city that actually CARED about making the best city in the world. Imagine the possibilities for Boston. It has so much going for it.
 
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Dude, really? Where did that article mention anything about bailouts? And how do you go from "luxury condo box POS" to "downtown is ruined" to "Blue Chips?" Won't the Blue Chips want to build more luxury condo box POS's? And how does investment in downtown, ruin it?
 
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The article is not going to mention bailouts because the globe favors the city. Vornado will get their initial investment back for this project.

I'm talking about BLUE CHIP Tenant not blue chip retailer. Possibly- Fidelity, Ropes N Gray (Who is in the backbay now) Then bring back some Mom & Pop Retailers to add some character back into the city. The Blue Chip Tenant would help secure the financing for the building to be built and then possibly help lowering rents for smaller retailers in the area.

The planning for this project was awful.
 
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You talk about the matter as if it were as simple as going to the grocery stores and picking up some ingredients for a recipe! It's not!
 
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You talk about the matter as if it were as simple as going to the grocery stores and picking up some ingredients for a recipe! It's not!

They paid too much for the sight. They should have waited till they signed tenants to secure the financing before they demo the building.
It is that simple.
Their plan was no matter what happens the city will pay us to get the hell out of dodge. Even if the city takes eminent control they have to pay off Vornado for the site
 
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Kennedy, to take the silly grocery anaolgy further, this is more like selling your kitchen to a personal chef so that he can cook you a meal. Now that he has ownership, he takes the appliances and ingredients back home for himself, doesn't cook, and, starving, you're forced to buy back your stripped kitchen.

In retrospect, should've gone grocery shopping after all...
 
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I was being more critical of The Rifleman's rhetoric, but certainly I can see what you mean in terms of how Filene's has been handled by the city

But going off on how they should just bring back some mom 'n' pop stores, and hell, just throw in a Blue Chip, irks me a little bit. We all know that having more independent retailers, as well as major tenants, would help the district, but how does one propose attracting said retailers and tenants?
 
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I was being more critical of The Rifleman's rhetoric, but certainly I can see what you mean in terms of how Filene's has been handled by the city

But going off on how they should just bring back some mom 'n' pop stores, and hell, just throw in a Blue Chip, irks me a little bit. We all know that having more independent retailers, as well as major tenants, would help the district, but how does one propose attracting said retailers and tenants?

Cambridge did a good job attracting Biotech companies. Especially with MIT and Harvard right around the corner. The talent pool of students attracted the Biotechs into the area. Now Cambridge which was once the least desirable place to live is the Most desirable place to live.

Like I said before you need some creative people working for the city. Maybe the Downtown area should have been marketed as a building a future fashion mecca and try to convince fashion companies to buildout towards Boston. We have Fashion schools around the area.
Or maybe work with the colleges, Fashion Industry, or maybe a grocery store ECT. Instead Hynes jumped on the CONDO, RETAIL and HOTEL concept like every other boring developer.

Sometimes it takes thinking outside the box.
 
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I doubt that any part of Cambridge was relatively rougher than any part of Boston then when compared with today. Cambridge as a whole may have gentrified more quickly, but I don't think it was ever relatively bad.
 
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Lurker back me up on Cambridge MA history and how it was considered a shithole back in the 70's and 80's.

The area was so poor at the time that Patrick Ewing donated money so the parks could have basketball rims.
 
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I didn't set foot in Cambridge until 1980 despite living in Boston since 1978. Most of my time in Cambridge during the 1980s was spent around Harvard Square (my wife lived on Remington Street). I typically was driving a van back and forth between the South End and there, so the street level experience at the time wasn't something I paid a great deal of attention to.

Cambridge was not well known as "a shithole" in the 80s. However many of the major squares that are considered collegiate nirvana today were fairly dangerous. Remember that was the decade of the height of the crack epidemic and prior to welfare reform curtailing the most obscene subsidy of criminal behavior. I'd consider the city of Cambridge as a whole in the 1980s somewhat on par with Jamaica Plain 1990-present.
 
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Central Sq still has a crack head aspect to it and from what I'm told Magazine St was pretty bad in the early 90's.
 
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