New England Revolution Stadium | 173 Alford Street | Boston-Everett

bigeman312 said:
The MBTA should start politicking and present the cost for a Green Line branch to Everett via the Lechmere Viaduct, the Grand Junction right-of-way, Sullivan, and a new bus/rail reservation along Alford St and Broadway. Buses are not enough to serve this site alone. The Green Line system could be:
  • B: Boston College - Park St
  • C: Cleveland Circle - Everett
  • D: Riverside - Medford/Tufts
  • E: Heath St - Union
EDITED TO ADD: This is tongue-in-cheek, but I wish I lived in a world where this would be a reasonable proposal.
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You have to use rail to get enough surge capacity for a stadium. And that bus/rail reservation better be absolutely car proof, otherwise game day drivers will cluster it up.
 
I hope that when the MBTA present next year that in addition to the SLX busway and bridge to Assembly that they bring up commuter rail infills at Sweester Circle and potentially Sullivan as well. I believe that Kraft is expected to match funding for public infrastructure projects associated with the construction of the stadium so this could be a great opportunity to make big steps for transit in this area and towards Everett especially.

bigeman312 said:
The MBTA should start politicking and present the cost for a Green Line branch to Chelsea via the Lechmere Viaduct
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I agree that light rail to Chelsea alongside the commuter rail ROW should be a long term goal, but I prefer an Urban Ring proposal connecting the Chelsea busway to the Grand Junction with a super station at Sullivan. This seems like a really long ways away though.
 
samsongam said:
I hope that when the MBTA present next year that in addition to the SLX busway and bridge to Assembly that they bring up commuter rail infills at Sweester Circle and potentially Sullivan as well. I believe that Kraft is expected to match funding for public infrastructure projects associated with the construction of the stadium so this could be a great opportunity to make big steps for transit in this area and towards Everett especially.



I agree that light rail to Chelsea alongside the commuter rail ROW should be a long term goal, but I prefer an Urban Ring proposal connecting the Chelsea busway to the Grand Junction with a super station at Sullivan. This seems like a really long ways away though.
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Whether it terminates in Chelsea or Everett, the concept is the same.
  • ...
  • Encore / Revolution
  • Sullivan
  • Lechmere
  • Science Park / West End
  • North Station
  • ...
A Sullivan superstation on the Haverhill, Newburyport, Rockport Lines would complement this proposal well regardless.
 
bigeman312 said:
Whether it terminates in Chelsea or Everett, the concept is the same.
  • ...
  • Encore / Revolution
  • Sullivan
  • Lechmere
  • Science Park / West End
  • North Station
  • ...
A Sullivan superstation on the Haverhill, Newburyport, Rockport Lines would complement this proposal well regardless.
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I meant the Grand Junction section in Cambridge. I was thinking more along:

  • ...
  • Encore/Revolution
  • Assembly
  • Sullivan
  • East Somerville (Green Line E)
  • Brickbottom (Green Line D)
  • Cambridge Street
  • ...
  • Kendall (general area)
  • ...
  • West Station
  • ...

Having CR infill stations at Sweester and Sullivan going to North Station, it feels kinda redundant to send another line on the same path when you could connect the North side of the urban ring. Additionally, it looks rough trying to link into the flyover toward Lechmere. Granted the alternative through Innerbelt and Brickbottom isn't a cakewalk but that's why it seems to me like any light rail in this area isn't coming anytime soon.
 
samsongam said:
I meant the Grand Junction section in Cambridge. I was thinking more along:

  • ...
  • Encore/Revolution
  • Assembly
  • Sullivan
  • East Somerville (Green Line E)
  • Brickbottom (Green Line D)
  • Cambridge Street
  • ...
  • Kendall (general area)
  • ...
  • West Station
  • ...

Having CR infill stations at Sweester and Sullivan going to North Station, it feels kinda redundant to send another line on the same path when you could connect the North side of the urban ring. Additionally, it looks rough trying to link into the flyover toward Lechmere. Granted the alternative through Innerbelt and Brickbottom isn't a cakewalk but that's why it seems to me like any light rail in this area isn't coming anytime soon.
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Even if it is not the service pattern, you need to allow some level of interlining at Innerbelt and Brickbottom. You don't want the rolling stock on the Grand Junction isolated from the rest of the Green Line.
 
(f) The construction of the professional soccer stadium and waterfront park and any site redevelopment, pursuant to subsection (a), shall include improvements to increase the availability of public transportation through the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority to access the stadium and waterfront park; provided, however, that the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority, in consultation with relevant stakeholders, shall develop a plan on to [sic] how to provide access to the professional soccer stadium and waterfront park through public transportation, including, but not limited to, bus routes and shall publish said plan to its website not later than March 1, 2025.
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This language, with its specific mention of bus routes and given the short timeframe to do the study,, suggests to me that the legislature is not looking for solutions that would require a major investment in transportation infrastructure.
 
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samsongam said:
I meant the Grand Junction section in Cambridge. I was thinking more along:

  • ...
  • Encore/Revolution
  • Assembly
  • Sullivan
  • East Somerville (Green Line E)
  • Brickbottom (Green Line D)
  • Cambridge Street
  • ...
  • Kendall (general area)
  • ...
  • West Station
  • ...

Having CR infill stations at Sweester and Sullivan going to North Station, it feels kinda redundant to send another line on the same path when you could connect the North side of the urban ring. Additionally, it looks rough trying to link into the flyover toward Lechmere. Granted the alternative through Innerbelt and Brickbottom isn't a cakewalk but that's why it seems to me like any light rail in this area isn't coming anytime soon.
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Oh! I misunderstood. Yeah, whatever light rail pattern is best. Ideally multiple service patterns.

Let's be real, we aren't getting light rail to Everett as a result of the Revs moving there, but I would love it in any of a number of different service patterns. Heck, even something silly like a branch off the Green Line Extension in East Somerville and down McGrath:
  • ...
  • Encore
  • Assembly
  • East Somerville (Broadway & McGrath)
  • Brickbottom (née East Somerville)
  • Lechmere
  • ...
Anything better than SL3 extension, please.
 
Article in the Globe on the new stadium. Two Globe reporters interviewed the team president. Highlights:

[the stadium] will seat 22,000-24,000, including suites and standing-room tickets. That’s fewer than the previously reported 25,000. .... A capacity of 22,000 would still place the Revolution in the league’s top 10 among soccer-specific stadiums.

The earliest the stadium could be ready for action is 2027, he said.
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With fewer tickets to sell, the team will focus on building and solidifying a fan base that will infuse a new home with the type of passion that translates into higher revenues, whether that’s via off-site merchandise sales or in-game concessions.

Naming rights for the new stadium will be one lucrative source, as would contracts for signage and box-office suites, and any future jersey sponsorship deal. United HealthCare has been the Revolution’s only jersey sponsor, first signing on in 2011.
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The new venue would be used roughly 40 days a year between 20-21 Revolution games and 15-20 concerts, with a minimal number of other events expected there.
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The site would have fewer than 100 parking spots and rely heavily on public transportation, with fans walking from Assembly Row in Somerville over a proposed pedestrian bridge to the Encore casino and from Sullivan Square in Charlestown, Bilello said.
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www.bostonglobe.com

The Revolution averaged 29,000 fans a game this past season. So why build a smaller stadium? - The Boston Globe

In an interview with the Globe, team president Brian Bilello discussed the franchise's latest thinking regarding plans for a new soccer-specific stadium in Everett.
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Fewer than 100 spots and an explicit reference to the pedestrian bridge are great. 2027 is a pipe dream though, right? Site clearance and remediation have to be pretty big projects in themselves. Still, will be a great addition to the waterfront.
 
Do we think the women's soccer team would eventually play there as well? I expect they would find other uses for the stadium as well, even if they don't include most of the field, the way Fenway Park does.
 
okin15 said:
Do we think the women's soccer team would eventually play there as well? I expect they would find other uses for the stadium as well, even if they don't include most of the field, the way Fenway Park does.
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I think it's possible sometime in the far future, but I don't think it's at all the expectation. Teams generally prefer to have their own stadium and build their own identity around it without being in the shadow of the other team, just like how the Revolution don't want to be in the shadow of the Patriots at Gillette. Or like how the Kansas City Current moved out of the MLS stadium (18,000) into their own stadium (11,500) and it seems like it's been a big success.

Now there is a lot more space in KC in general and around the stadium so they probably can expand their stadium if the popularity of NWSL grows, whereas White Stadium being bound by the park and BPS means it's close to impossible to expand. So if the team is super successful/ popular and the owners decide they want to bring in more people they would look into the new Revs stadium. There have been a lot of NWSL teams moving from smaller venues to MLS stadiums in recent years as well (NY/NJ Gotham, Seattle Reign, Washington Spirit), but they never moved from a stadium that was built with them in mind (they were not ideal in terms of unprofessional facilities or bad locations). Additionally, the NWSL boston owners are quite invested in White Stadium spending tens of millions to make it as perfect for their team as possible alongside BPS.

So I think there is a chance in the longer run but definitely not for a while. It would take a whole lot of overwhelmingly positive indicators from Everett and the Boston NWSL Team FC ( I refuse to acknowledge their awful name until it is changed) would have to sizably outgrow White Stadium. As a MLS and NWSL fan in the city it is odd to all of a sudden potentially have two new stadiums accessible from the city when it's been so hard to get out to Gillette for a game, but I think both will have success
 
Justbuildit said:
Fewer than 100 spots and an explicit reference to the pedestrian bridge are great. 2027 is a pipe dream though, right? Site clearance and remediation have to be pretty big projects in themselves. Still, will be a great addition to the waterfront.
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I suspect they already have a fairly good idea of the extent and nature of the hazardous material contamination. For remediation, I believe the plan is to cap the site with gravel and fill. Capping the site will elevate the stadium and substantially increase its resiliency against future storm surges and projected rises in sea level. However, I believe one cannot remediate a site contaminated with PCBs by capping, so if PCBs are found in significant quantities, these must be excavated and sent to a specially designated disposal site.

FWIW, after the large oil- and coal-fueled generating station at Salem was demolished, and the site was being prepared for re-use, the contamination was less than expected.
 
www.wcvb.com

Healey signs $4B law including tax incentives, soccer stadium, ticket resale rules

"This legislation will create new jobs, strengthen our efforts to recruit and retain the best talent, support all of our communities, and grow our arts, culture and tourism sectors," Healey said.
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Massachusetts Gov. Maura Healey on Wednesday signed a $4 billion economic development bill containing provisions supporting the life sciences and artificial intelligence industries, paving the way for a new soccer stadium in Everett and new rules around the resale of event tickets.
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Why not build a commuter rail station near Encore and run a commuter rail shuttle on game day from North Station?
 
Delicious NIMBY tears for everyone!!!
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Update: At this point, the Mayor is simply embarrassing herself and the city of Boston:

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White Stadium project cost has doubled from previous estimates, with city on hook for $91 million - The Boston Globe

The redevelopment would convert the 1940s-era stadium into a modern, 10,000-seat arena for the BOS Nation FC soccer team and new facilities for Boston Public Schools athletics.
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"......The city’s estimated expense has risen to $91 million from $50 million in recent months. City officials say their contribution accounts for less than half of the total cost, indicating the entire redevelopment could ring in at around $200 million. The owners of BOS Nation FC would cover the balance of the work to convert the deteriorating 1940s-era stadium into a modern, 10,000-seat arena for the team and new facilities for Boston Public Schools athletics......" (yeah, sure - - a franchise that plays 20 games per year at home in a 10,000 seat (if sold out) stadium has $109 million to plunk down on a stadium that it has to share with public high school students.........

Dear Mayor Wu and Linda Pizzutti - - stop pissing on peoples heads and telling them that it is raining. Kraft's Everett Stadium (and his $100 million to environmentally clean up the site) is a freaking GIFT to the metro area. Business-wise, it is ridiculous for the NWSL not to play in the Everett Stadium. Kraft's people keep reaching out and inviting them, and they continue to fold their arms. The Mayor, for her part, is somewhere in a different galaxy.
 
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