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interesting that BGR got DEN, BTV got IAH and MHT got nothing. That is a slap in the face to the folks at MHT. This was not on my prediction list.... See how BGR does with DEN...
 
What's next? London and Paris? Maybe with Roux on the horizon there are some plans that we don't know about (for the San Fran / Silicon Valley connects). Is Meta planning a building next to or not far from Roux? Zuck does like his hydrofoil surfboard, and the Maine coast does present some fun opportunities for it. It's a much better place for boating, etc. than off the coast of Northern California. Or perhaps it's Google, as they just built an office building across from MIT. Both of their founders announced or implied yesterday that they are leaving CA because of the upcoming billionaire tax. Or maybe it's something really crazy, like the Maine Mall is going to be "repurposed" as an A.I. processing center. These things are popping up all over the country now. They do need to be cooled, and so for 9 months out of the year that won't be an issue in Maine. Just open the windows. Lol.
 
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Cosakita18 said:
I guess this announcement settles the PWM runway length
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Not entirely. I was told today that there may be weight limitations on hot and humid days with the 737- 800. You are correct that the A220 is the perfect transcontinental aircraft due to its longer range and lower fuel costs which helps airlines to turn a higher profit margin.
 
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Cosakita18 said:
Side note: I guess this announcement settles the PWM runway length / range debate once and for all ;):LOL:
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I don't know, though. Based on everything I've read, a 737-800 at max weight needs more than 7,200 feet at sea level to take off. Will they be limiting passengers? Does anyone else fly 737-800s in and out of PWM?
 
Dr. StrangeHat said:
Will they be limiting passengers?
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They could and it would be a rare occasion. Let's hope we fill the flights so United will be encouraged to bring the service back next year. 737-800's are fairly common out of PWM but no airline has attempted these distances before.
 
Dr. StrangeHat said:
I don't know, though. Based on everything I've read, a 737-800 at max weight needs more than 7,200 feet at sea level to take off. Will they be limiting passengers? Does anyone else fly 737-800s in and out of PWM?
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La Guardia in NY... It's only two runways and each are 7002 feet in length. I'd assume that they are using this configuration model of the 737 for dozens of flights each day to the west coast.
 
So, in other words, we're going to hear (and feel) it when these suckers take off and land on Saturdays, huh?
 
PWMFlyer said:
interesting that BGR got DEN, BTV got IAH and MHT got nothing. That is a slap in the face to the folks at MHT. This was not on my prediction list.... See how BGR does with DEN...
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I’m personally disappointed that MHT in general has got nothing from United while all the other airports in the region has gotten atleast something, but there’s just not enough people choosing MHT over Boston so that’s what will happen. Very impressed with you guys up there, I never would’ve thought LAX or SFO would get added but you guys are filling every flight up there so you deserve it. And I wouldn’t be shocked if these flights fill up too.
 
Difference between MHT and “all the other airports” is that they’re all destinations that support themselves.
MHT is to BOS what the WNBA is to the NBA- the lifeline. Sorry for the political incorrectness there but that was a layup.
 
TC_zoid said:
La Guardia in NY... It's only two runways and each are 7002 feet in length. I'd assume that they are using this configuration model of the 737 for dozens of flights each day to the west coast.
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LGA has no flights to the west coast and has a perimeter rule that has been in effect since 1984. Furthest service from LGA currently is SLC, BZN, YYC and DEN and most of those flights are Saturday only. In addition, LaGuardia is 200 miles further west than Portland which negates our 200' longer runway advantage.
 
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MHT_Spotter said:
but there’s just not enough people choosing MHT over Boston
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I never liked the addition of "Boston" in the name and always felt that New Hampshire International Airport would have been a better marketing approach. Wish we had your main runway! :)
 
NR2Portland said:
Difference between MHT and “all the other airports” is that they’re all destinations that support themselves.
MHT is to BOS what the WNBA is to the NBA- the lifeline. Sorry for the political incorrectness there but that was a layup.
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Completely agree with you but I personally believe with the history and population southern New Hampshire has MHT should be able serve more than 1.3 million passengers even with Logan’s influence. But the fact BGR has more investment from the legacy airlines than MHT makes it pretty clear there isn’t a lot of support for the airport in the area.
 
Portlander said:
I never liked the addition of "Boston" in the name and always felt that New Hampshire International Airport would have been a better marketing approach. Wish we had your main runway! :)
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There’s always been rumors about it changing. I don’t know why it hasn’t yet having Boston in the name might be the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen.
 
Agree. Back in the 2005 MHT ruled northern New England with 4.3M enplanements and the "Southwest" effect was stealing passengers from Greater Portland in large numbers. Would have never guessed back then that the fortunes of the two airports would flip. MHT still has a gorgeous terminal where PWM has had to keep expanding on our original 1968 building. Good news is that Manchester already has the infrastructure and gates in place to increase service as needed anytime in the future.
 
Maine is a vacation draw plain and simple. Thousands of kids go to summer camps each year which come from all over the world. We have national parks, the coast, sea dogs baseball, the beaches, .... Manch Vegas is stuck in the middle will little to attract other than the lakes, and the mountains, but they are trying. SNHU Arena sits empty 75% of the time,
 
Portlander said:
Agree. Back in the 2005 MHT ruled northern New England with 4.3M enplanements and the "Southwest" effect was stealing passengers from Greater Portland in large numbers. Would have never guessed back then that the fortunes of the two airports would flip. MHT still has a gorgeous terminal where PWM has had to keep expanding on our original 1968 building. Good news is that Manchester already has the infrastructure and gates in place to increase service as needed anytime in the future.
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Yes, and I remember taking a few SW flights into and out of Manchester back then and it was not easy because who wants to take you there or pick you up? And bus service then was non-existent. The Portland-Boston spine works well with Concord Coach or the train. And then it's only a 5-minute Uber ride to the Jetport. My only wish or worry in this mass trans equation is that nearsighted NNEPRA stop its BAD idea of relocating the train part of PTC to be next door to the fast-food chicken chop shop known as Tyson Foods. Late night arrivals will see a deserted and dangerous station (like Saco's). I witnessed the agitated train lady in the meeting say or imply that people in Brunswick were complaining about the 15 minutes extra time for it to back up. Or as she said it, 30 minutes. And if you think r/t for 5 days a week it's a total of 2.5 hours of time that you could have spent with your loved ones. I bristle from rationalizations like that.
 
MAINLINE service out of PWM for the upcoming summer and fall season:

American CLT, DCA, DFW, PHL
Breeze CHS, MCO, RDU, TPA, CMH, RSW, ORF, PIT, SRQ
Delta ATL, DTW, MSP
JetBlue JFK, MCO
Southwest BWI, MDW, BNA
Allegiant MSP
United LAX, SFO, ORD, EWR, DEN

Seven airlines to 26 destinations and I did not include JetBlue's spring break service to FLL. An impressive list of options for "Maine's Home Airport".
 
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United is showing the 737 MAX 8 (166 seats) for its flights to LAX and SFO which I'm guessing are not as runway restricted and are more fuel efficient than the regular 737-800?
 
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