Reasonable Transit Pitches

No need to deadhead from Tufts to Alewife if they plan their ops out. Have tail track capacity for four sets beyond Tufts. Last four runs to Tufts will lay over there. All other sets will be shifted over to Alewife through the evening to be pulled from service there. Not a big deal, really. It's even better than the current Lechmere set up where sets have to end up all the way back at Riverside if they're not laying over at Lechmere.


Alewife MoW isn't useless, either.

There's no way you'd need to eliminate the Alewife MOW yard. Look at those parking lots -- they're huge.

Building a new train yard next to an existing one within a city that already wants to have it is going to be sooooo much easier than building on near Alewife, especially given the extra costs of getting the Green Line to Alewife.

Riverside is already planning on building garages given the high demand. It makes more sense to have a yard closer to the majority of branches rather than far out at the end of one.

Somerville wants it? They fought to have it tucked away as hard as they could. And tucking it away at the expense of freight ops because freight ops ain't "sexy."
 
This is always something that amazed me... why they built a SUBWAY through wetlands. I knew the plan was to reach Rt 2 in Alewife long ago but most of the early plans involved running above ground. Was there a giant protest against an above ground terminal? It would have killed any route of the now popular bike/walking paths but those didn't come in until after the Red Line opened.

In 1981 when tunnel construction started...

-- Danehy Park was the Cambridge town dump
-- Boston & Maine RR's West Cambridge freight yard the MoW yard sits on was still active with loud and smelly freight car shunting
--The Lexington Branch was still taking freight, the Fitchburg Cutoff branch was still active to Clifton St. as W.R. Grace's freight siding (that lasted till the station access road was built in '88), and the Watertown Branch had active customers behind New St. and the Mall.
-- The whole Alewife area was a decaying industrial hellscape full of toxic contamination.


There would've had to have been actual living people around to care. Check Historic Aerials' 1978 view. The three apartment towers are there, Russell Field is there, the Mall and cinemas are there. But all else south of Whittemore and west of Clifton and Sherman is just bleakness and despair.
 
No need to deadhead from Tufts to Alewife if they plan their ops out. Have tail track capacity for four sets beyond Tufts. Last four runs to Tufts will lay over there. All other sets will be shifted over to Alewife through the evening to be pulled from service there. Not a big deal, really. It's even better than the current Lechmere set up where sets have to end up all the way back at Riverside if they're not laying over at Lechmere.

Route 16, not College Ave. 16's supposed to have pocket storage track, College Ave. lacks the width to do more than just drag the mainline tracks back a bit as tail tracks. That's not adequate for storing 4 trains when 1 track has to be open to shuffle moves and shuffle a disablement to the back of the line. And these are four-car trains it has to be provisioned for. 16, with its storage tracks that will do OK for 4 sets of quadruplets, is 8-1/2 miles from the next-nearest storage yard at North Station. Whereas North Station is only 6 miles from Reservoir and Reservoir 6 miles from Riverside. That's too damn long. Their own ops study shows what can and can't be handled without that large facility. There is no creative optimization that makes up all that difference.

Sacrifice the centrally-located carhouse, sacrifice service levels. End of story. Believing otherwise doesn't disprove their own traffic modeling.


There's no way you'd need to eliminate the Alewife MOW yard. Look at those parking lots -- they're huge.

Those parking lots are private property being held for more office tower development. Doesn't belong to the T, will have gigantic buildings on it in next 5-10 years. The only thing the T owns is that single pavement strip to the side that's full of commuter rail equipment.

And yes commuter rail MoW goes away if you're claiming that side of the ROW for the Green Line. The track stretching far to the east is for running around the work locomotives when they're in the yard shunting together a string of work cars. Claim the land east of the garage and they can't stage any moves. No-go. Also...you never want to be on that side of the ROW post- Porter duck-under if you have any intentions of leaving a provision to branch out further. Watertown Branch forks on the opposite side, and to ever hold Waltham Ctr. in-play with the Fitchburg Line re-routed to the Central Mass ROW around downtown you likewise have to be on the opposite side.


Somerville wants it? They fought to have it tucked away as hard as they could. And tucking it away at the expense of freight ops because freight ops ain't "sexy."

This is true. Although it's not Somerville per se but the interests in Brickbottom who, for reasons I can't fathom, seem to wield a stick that scares Somerville absolutely to death. To point where the whole city and all of STEP basically kneel and say "Yes, muh Lord" every time the 'Bottomites say boo. I don't get it. What the hell is in Brickbottom today? That's a neighborhood-to-be, not a neighborhood-that-is.
 
Idk if this is the best place to put this but I saw this group at wake up the earth today. http://arborway.org/#sthash.ui22jlzJ.dpbs. some of the plan:http://arborway.org/documents/ArbComm_HS_WhitePaper.pdf The plan seems to be to restore service slowly starting by bringing it to hyde square. They have a few plans for how that would look I like this the best and it is the only one I have a picture of
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Here's what I think the link between the Fitchburg/north side and Worcester/south side between Brandeis/Roberts and Auburndale should look like.

Casualties:
slivers of two parking lots
2 or 3 houses

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Genius.

And if the 90/95 interchange were redone to eliminate tollbooths, the eastern junction of the rail connector could be even more compact.
 
^ My only question would be the EIS of Stony Basin. I assume the rules have changed since 128 put a causeway and culvert right through it.
 
^True. I'm assuming that since it's an artificial reservoir, it's not a big deal.
 
^ My only question would be the EIS of Stony Basin. I assume the rules have changed since 128 put a causeway and culvert right through it.

Yep. The actual construction probably wouldn't be too bad, especially if the trajectory off Riverside were in some way provisioned by the someday blow-up/reconfigure of the Pike interchange. Would need 1 house eminent domained on the River Rd. cul de sac because it's right freaking next to 128. But definitely not 3...and maybe not even 2. Anywhere it's pinched you could shift 128 over a few feet...such as by building a retaining wall on the earthen embankment where River Rd. runs along SB. The decrepit River Rd. overpass is the only bridge that would have to be replaced. Comm. Ave. bridge and Norumbega Rd. underpass would be replaced by the Pike interchange do-over, so provision yourself well and those are set (I would presume the rail line has a bolt-on bridge over Norumbega).

Then you'd have to do some blasting of trap rock outcrops on the NB side shortly before the causeway over the water, maybe 1/4 mile before the Fitchburg Line. Not too much unlike what they did for the new Route 109 overpass for the SB add-a-lane, only larger-scale. It's a lot of rock, but look at all the expressways--and very recent expressway widenings--that routinely carve gigantic gashes through trap rock outcrops. It's not hard material to reduce to rubble, and it's one of New England's biggest raw material exports (paving/ballast industry) so the stuff is worth money when hauled off to a quarry to grind up. Construction-wise it's routine, not very expensive, and most definitely not very expensive for a narrow 2-track ROW vs. a highway ramp.

The actual wye grading down to the Fitchburg Line inbound already exists right past the causeway as a former construction ramp laid down when 128 was first built and/or widened. Drive NB and you can see it to the right sloping gently downhill shortly before the bridge over the Fitchburg Line. Or look on Google Maps, tilted view and rotate to the side.


The catch is the EIS'ing. Oooof. Runoff from 128 is already a huge problem. It's going to be a terrible ordeal to get that that approved, and if you do get it approved at all there'd have to be massive amounts of culvert construction. Something with walls that can contain any fuel spills on the tracks, and help the runoff situation from the highway. Especially if you need to shift 128 on the causeway 5-10 feet to the other side to make room. Then you're doing expensive-ass catch basins on both sides of the causeway.


I really don't know in this day and age whether the Army Corps of Engineers would approve that. And you really have to have an ironclad reason for taking on the expense. Keep in mind, with enough upgrades to the Worcester Branch between Worcester and Ayer and enough extra robustness to southside commuter rail fleet and maint facilities to minimize north-south swaps from daily to once or twice a week...you CAN claim the Grand Junction for the Urban Ring with no replacement, no bothersome loss to RR functionality, and no prerequisite of building the N-S Link.

You'd lose the ability to do a New York-Portland Amtrak train that stops at North Station, but that's...what, a one-a-day at most for Manhattanites' weekend pleasure? Not worth hand-wringing over when the decision to take the Grand Junction for LRT or BRT is about very very vital and consequential Boston transit. The Worcester-Kendall-North Station plan for 5 morning and 5 evening rush runs in the commute direction said that no off-peaks were needed because travel time to Kendall and NS was within 1-2 minutes of equal when the subway wasn't stressed under load. So that's an easy one: fix @#$% Red and Orange so they roll back their decline into paralysis and are capable of increasing their service to handle the loads, then just keep increasing Worcester frequencies. You end up with more riders and more useful options total than diluting service to any one terminal with a fork @ West Station dividing service at both. So keep in mind...one-seat vs. two-seat does not matter anywhere close as much as frequencies when travel time difference is that minor.


So...this is absolutely, positively NOT something you have to push if you want to claim the GJ in a pre- North-South Link universe. And for that reason the costs driven by that tough, tough EIS do matter the world. Make sure you know up-front how much rope you're willing to give yourself on build cost before it's no longer worth pursuing, in case the EIS returns bad news. This project slots purely in the category of (legitimately) nifty value-added...but not such a must-have you need to go too far out on a limb, or lose much functionality by not spending here so you have more to spend elsewhere on bigger things.
 
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You'd lose the ability to do a New York-Portland Amtrak train that stops at North Station, but that's...what, a one-a-day at most for Manhattanites' weekend pleasure?

Not even. This is a functionally worthless routing - New Yorkers heading to Boston already have the Northeast Corridor service into South Station, everyone north of Haverhill heading to Boston already has the Downeaster into North Station, the track connection between Worcester and Ayer is perfectly serviceable for a once-a-day fun train land cruise and there's a path from Ayer to Haverhill and on through to New Hampshire.

Woburn and North Station lose direct service to New York City on the fun train, but Worcester gains it, the relative slowness of the direct trip on freight tracks from Worcester to Haverhill works out about even versus dragging this thing all the way downtown, the one reverse move you MIGHT need to make in Worcester (unnecessary if you build another platform at minimal expense) is going to be much less painful than the in-and-out you'd need to do at North Station would be simply because of how constrained North Station is, anyone in Boston or looking to get to somewhere in Boston is probably going to be riding the T at some point anyway and it makes no difference which terminal they come in at... the biggest and only real losers in routing the Downeaster to New York away from Boston are the North Shore park-and-ride set who will not be able to park at Woburn and get a single-seat ride to New York.
 
Not even. This is a functionally worthless routing - New Yorkers heading to Boston already have the Northeast Corridor service into South Station, everyone north of Haverhill heading to Boston already has the Downeaster into North Station, the track connection between Worcester and Ayer is perfectly serviceable for a once-a-day fun train land cruise and there's a path from Ayer to Haverhill and on through to New Hampshire.

Woburn and North Station lose direct service to New York City on the fun train, but Worcester gains it, the relative slowness of the direct trip on freight tracks from Worcester to Haverhill works out about even versus dragging this thing all the way downtown, the one reverse move you MIGHT need to make in Worcester (unnecessary if you build another platform at minimal expense) is going to be much less painful than the in-and-out you'd need to do at North Station would be simply because of how constrained North Station is, anyone in Boston or looking to get to somewhere in Boston is probably going to be riding the T at some point anyway and it makes no difference which terminal they come in at... the biggest and only real losers in routing the Downeaster to New York away from Boston are the North Shore park-and-ride set who will not be able to park at Woburn and get a single-seat ride to New York.

NNEPRA has already proposed a NYC-POR train on the Worcester-Ayer routing. Like...two months ago, proposed this. It will never happen.

1) This has already been timed on a RR.net thread, with corroboration, based on the maximum possible speed of every piece of track on the Ayer bypass if upgraded to its tippy-top potential. Grand Junction beats a full-speed Worcester-Ayer handily every time. EGE did the maths on this one. Sorry...it's slower by a margin wide enough that there's no tricks to pull to close the gap vs. a Grand Junction routing.

2) Massachusetts is a link in the state-sponsored chain required to run it. Under absolutely no circumstances will they allow an Inland Regional or Downeaster slot to skip Boston. No way, no how. Worcester + Lowell + Haverhill < Boston. If NNEPRA doesn't cooperate, the train doesn't get allowed in MBTA territory on the Fitchburg, Lowell, or Haverhill Lines which it must traverse. It vultures both an Inland Regionals slot and a Downeaster slot when congestion on the Western Route and congestion in Connecticut don't make those slots expendable. That's their self-interest, and that's the leverage they hold over any attempt to put the kibosh on a train that could be making a faster trip if it went to Boston. Do business on their turf or it doesn't happen, and there is no business to be done--or possibility of laundering it around them--without engaging a revenue source the state can tap in Boston. Again, NNEPRA already proposed this to cool reception.

3) Amtrak is not qualified on that route. It is on the 100% of that train's territory if it goes via the Grand Junction. Amtrak already is sick of NNEPRA's batty Crazy Transit Pitches for northern Maine and for losing focus when it should be doing all it can to shore up the badly underperforming Brunswick extension. No way, no how do they do crew qualifications in new territory for the fun train. It's too little revenue for NNEPRA "cut 'dem checks" to sway them. Again, they already proposed this like two months ago. Since then Amtrak has brought the pain on them reading NNEPRA the riot act over Brunswick and them getting caught flat-footed on customer service by all the track condition-related delays. Amtrak doesn't want to hear about service expansion Crazy Transit Pitches in frickin' Maine until those spazzes get their house in order.

4) Reverses at North Station are no issue. Pull in, lay over, pull out. Fitchburg and Lowell crossovers are immediately adjacent to each other, and to depart/arrive at tolerable times in NYC or Portland this is not going to coincide with peak rush hour when drawbridge congestion puts a mild premium on getting off the platforms quickly. Amtrak reverses every single day all day at 30th St. Philly in much more crowded environs for every Keystone train, and does the same at Springfield Union for every Springfield Regional, Springfield Shuttle, and Vermonter. It's a zero on impact because all their NEC crews are qualified to do it. T crews...yes, they'd be sluggish because it's not a regular practice to do on a 'live' revenue train. T crews aren't running this thing.



To the original point...yes, it's an insignificant zit of a route and nothing would be lost if it didn't run. Because there is treeeeeeemendously more upside in building the Urban Ring, and if they fix the subway's performance under load and up the frequencies on the railroad the transfers from Back Bay do make even time to North Station vs. a direct on the GJ even at its best speed. That's where Worcester loses nothing.

The literal only train where where a direct to NS is necessary and wouldn't work with a transfer is a NYC-Maine train where the weekenders hauling their luggage 300 miles is the linchpin of the train's entire demand. And Massachusetts' only in-state interest in allowing that is to be able to have it run as a de facto regular Inland slot that only makes a minor diversion to NS instead, and then turns into a de facto regular Downeaster slot. And it's because of frequencies; whether it's a 'fake' Inland + DE being run on somebody else's schedule, it's a slot serving a frequency for the same in-state demand. And that makes the tiny little tweak in the routing fully palatable (not to mention dead-minimal additional cost overhead). Slots on those less-frequent pair of Amtrak routes are way too valuable to pass up. It would run contrary to this state's entire reason for investing in the DE and the Inlands to give away a Boston slot they're not going to recover by other means. They will never allow that.

That's why not only is the slow route to Ayer not going to happen, if NNEPRA keeps obliviously proposing it they're going to get told by MassDOT--or possibly even the governor--"Boston, or GTFO because your train's not getting permission to enter northside dispatch territory without it. Nyah-nyah."
 
what if we took the weekend trips of the 55X-series buses and throughrouted them past Newton Corner on the 57 route? Have every or every other inbound trip on the 505, 553, 554, 556, and 558 continue on to Kenmore Sq, and have maybe every 3 trips thru-route an outbound 57 bus back to Roberts, Waverly, Riverside, etc. detouring down Washington St instead of heading to Watertown Yard. It's just an idea that occured to me.

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edit second realization that this would be something of a dick move to the riders who board the 57 from watertown yard.
 
I think that's very reasonable and a much more efficient use of routes on weekends. No *major* issues, really. I think the worst part is probably just how long of a route it creates. But it's not more an issue than a weekday express route. It can all be ironed out in scheduling.
 
I think that's very reasonable and a much more efficient use of routes on weekends. No *major* issues, really. I think the worst part is probably just how long of a route it creates. But it's not more an issue than a weekday express route. It can all be ironed out in scheduling.

Routes 505, 554, 556, and 558 don't run weekends, only the 553 runs Sat and nothing on Sun
 
By establishing service like this for the entirety of a weekend schedule and semi-regularly during the week it provides a one-seat ride from various waltham routes along a key bus corridor to rapid transit. The 350 from Alewife to Chestnut St in Burlington sorta does this for the 352. the 440/450-series buses have their "W"-affixed local alt. route that terminate at Wonderland Station. You could do the same with the 354, for example:

- 354A: non-express service paralleling the 350 from Alewife along cambridge rd/US 3 but diverging east onto Lexington St to follow the 354 route, through Woburn Square, and terminating at the intersection of Montvale Av and Washington Street just before the I-93 ramp.
 
I know it's not feasible to put a commuter rail and/or DMU station on the Newburyport/Rockport line near the site of the Wynn Everett Casino (due to the inclines for the bridge over the Mystic). But:

Is it possible to put an infill CR and/or DMU station in Everett behind the Batch Yard/Charleston Chew Lofts.

This seems feasible and likely to have a large ridership base.
 
I know it's not feasible to put a commuter rail and/or DMU station on the Newburyport/Rockport line near the site of the Wynn Everett Casino (due to the inclines for the bridge over the Mystic). But:

Is it possible to put an infill CR and/or DMU station in Everett behind the Batch Yard/Charleston Chew Lofts.

This seems feasible and likely to have a large ridership base.

That is fully feasible from a build standpoint, since that's pretty much the first available spot a "casino" stop could physically go and it would support a fully accessible facility.

Problem is Santilli Circle is the convergence of the 104, 105, and 109 down Broadway to Sullivan and the 97, 99, 106, 110, and 112 to Wellington. There's no way a train would ever beat the frequencies on such a thick bundle of bus lines with direct Orange transfers down the street, and that's what'll kill the utilization for a commuter rail stop. And the Orange transfers, as much as they have to contend with traffic, would still beat North Station on-the-clock because the commuter rail terminal district is a slow zone for everything. You need the real Ring to bullseye this as a Very Big Stop because that's where the frequencies end up matching or exceeding the local buses where commuter rail or Indigo cannot. And it is a Very Big Stop on the real UR plans. You're just unfortunately staring at different sides of the critical-mass frequencies threshold with Indigo vs. LRT/BRT modes for busting that stop wide open. And that's why a commuter rail station isn't going to set the neighborhood on fire (or, as previously described, work distance-wise as a casino stop).

This is also the difference between Santilli vs. Chelsea. Chelsea needs substantial augmenting by SL Gateway today because its buses to Wonderland and Maverick are much slower and less frequent. Everett doesn't have that acute a problem to solve because it's at the crossroads of 2 big bus terminals hitting adjacent Orange stations where the only ways to fan out for all routes that side of the Mystic involves passing Santilli Circle.


Best thing they can do here is use the casino as an excuse to re-do the Santilli rotary in saner fashion(I've outlined some of those prudent moves in the Casino thread on the Dev forum). The Mystic and Orange overpass replacements MassHighway has funded on 16 are going to substantially widen the sidewalks to make for better and far less scary Wellington foot traffic access, which ties in the Mystic paths around Gateway. Getting some path connections to Santilli and the Northern Strand/Saugus Branch path fills in the last critical missing link to giving Broadway convenient actual walkability to Wellington. To go along with the ped improvements on the Alford St. bridge that have semi-improved the Sullivan walk. Will do a lot to de-isolate Everett from Orange and complement the fairly frequent buses. I also think footbridge over the tracks/welands from casino to Gateway and the Mystic paths is obligatory for Wynn, and that'll help too. I think I mentioned in some recent post that Gateway would make the best possible driveway for the casino if they built a driveway bridge from the side of Costco to the casino. There's even a little stub behind Costco that seems to be a provision for exactly that. So road bridge + sidewalk opens up a bike route AND a quasi-busway route to Wellington via Mystic View Rd. from Broadway that can diversify the Everett transit options a bit.
 
I also think footbridge over the tracks/welands from casino to Gateway and the Mystic paths is obligatory for Wynn, and that'll help too. I think I mentioned in some recent post that Gateway would make the best possible driveway for the casino if they built a driveway bridge from the side of Costco to the casino. There's even a little stub behind Costco that seems to be a provision for exactly that. So road bridge + sidewalk opens up a bike route AND a quasi-busway route to Wellington via Mystic View Rd. from Broadway that can diversify the Everett transit options a bit.

I drove down there the other day... went to Costco, but I looked at the access there. I think the pushback, if any, would probably be from Costco. They have plenty of parking but I can see how they would be against pedestrian access because people will park there and walk over to the casino and they wouldn't really benefit much from the foot traffic.

For the sake of connecting the "harbor walk" to the Mystic River Reservation I think Everett should really push for a walking connection. It looks like there is some sort of potentially walkable access under the bridge now which could either follow the water or include a foot bridge over the water to make a more direct connection to the Reservation. So I don't think they have to go over the tracks and can just put a walkway under the tracks. But really that is going to be up to Everett to work out because the pedestrian connection isn't on Wynn property. They should do it.

The driveway idea would require a costly bridge over that little inlet of water and they seem to be going in a different direction. Alternatively, they seem to be moving forward with driveway access along the tracks. I haven't seen a site plan, but there was a recent article about the casino evicting Idle Hands Brewery to make way for casino access... which is unfortunate about the brewery and the old buildings there. Although if there is a driveway parallel to the tracks then that might make more desirable to have a busway along that access road from stations in that direction.
 
I drove down there the other day... went to Costco, but I looked at the access there. I think the pushback, if any, would probably be from Costco. They have plenty of parking but I can see how they would be against pedestrian access because people will park there and walk over to the casino and they wouldn't really benefit much from the foot traffic.

Costco's a tenant, not an owner. They wouldn't have a say in the matter. This also wouldn't be through their whole parking lot; it would be a connection from Mystic View Rd. If it clips anything Costco, it's only as a bend to get around that small water inlet.

For the sake of connecting the "harbor walk" to the Mystic River Reservation I think Everett should really push for a walking connection. It looks like there is some sort of potentially walkable access under the bridge now which could either follow the water or include a foot bridge over the water to make a more direct connection to the Reservation. So I don't think they have to go over the tracks and can just put a walkway under the tracks. But really that is going to be up to Everett to work out because the pedestrian connection isn't on Wynn property. They should do it.

Wynn will probably want to float that as part of the infrastructure improvements he'll be paying for to plop the casino in the neighborhood. Walkability's going to be important for lining his pockets.

Not sure how much room is under that bridge before it starts getting too marshy. They do manage to snake the path under the Orange Line bridge at Wellington, so it's plausible.

The driveway idea would require a costly bridge over that little inlet of water and they seem to be going in a different direction. Alternatively, they seem to be moving forward with driveway access along the tracks. I haven't seen a site plan, but there was a recent article about the casino evicting Idle Hands Brewery to make way for casino access... which is unfortunate about the brewery and the old buildings there. Although if there is a driveway parallel to the tracks then that might make more desirable to have a busway along that access road from stations in that direction.

I'm not sure they can take that land for a rear driveway because of the electrical towers easement on T land. It would swing way too close to the 2 towers behind Everett Shops, and one of those has feeder cables going to the ground. At minimum it's going to be a very constrained driveway with the buffering they'd have to allow around it. And the tracks don't allow any give on the other side. Lousy top choice if that's really what they're pursuing.


Wynn fun bux are paying for infrastructure improvements. So if they ultimately decide back access is desirable bridge wouldn't be all that costly since Gateway side's already up on an embankment. They haven't finished the site access plan, so anything's in-play. The back driveway idea is more because the Gateway rotary and Mystic View Rd. can handle way more traffic way more inocuously than Broadway and the Santilli rotary can. Neighborhood would prefer that, so it's at least got to be in the universe of considerations even if it's no guarantee for final cut status.
 

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