San Francisco to Reshape Skyline

^ This kind of criticism is obviously necessary, but it lacks context. What cities don't have comparable problems? Reminds me of Londoners constantly whining about their "awful" tube, one of the cleanest and most extensive transit networks on earth.
 
Maybe so, but this article made Boston seem like a model of Prussian efficiency by comparison!
 
Wasn't sure if this should go here or in the "no shadows shall fall upon boston's grass" thread...


Compromise averts showdown over S.F. shadows

John Cot?,John King, Chronicle Staff Writers

Thursday, February 4, 2010

A compromise has been reached in what was shaping into a fierce political battle over a ballot measure to prevent new buildings from casting shadows on city parks, something Mayor Gavin Newsom said would threaten nearly every major development project planned in San Francisco.

Board of Supervisors President David Chiu, who wrote the measure, told The Chronicle on Wednesday that he planned to pull it from the June ballot after receiving a letter from Newsom that called for a thorough analysis of the impacts that planned skyscrapers and other projects would have on sunlight in parks and public spaces.

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"This is what I had been asking for," Chiu said. "What we were wanting all along was to get real data and a real analysis of the shadow impacts of buildings that have been built, the projects that have been approved, and developments in the pipeline."

Chiu's measure would have strengthened Proposition K, approved by voters in 1984, which set strict shadow guidelines but allowed city commissions some flexibility to decide whether to approve buildings. The measure proposed by Chiu would have taken away that discretionary power.
Major projects at stake

Newsom's letter to Chiu and the four supervisors who co-sponsored the measure warned that the proposal threatened projects such as the expansion of the Moscone Center and development of the new Transbay Terminal. Planning Director John Rahaim said it would also affect such projects as the expansion of the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art, the proposed Mexican Museum and even senior housing projects in Chinatown.

"I request that we pause long enough to thoughtfully and thoroughly study this," Newsom wrote. "With hard data in hand, we can then work together to chart the best course forward."

The compromise appears to end, at least for now, a political showdown.
Measure to be yanked

Chiu said he will announce his decision to yank the measure at a hearing today on the issue. Because the measure had been put on the ballot, the wording could not be changed. Chiu's only choice was to move forward with the measure as written or pull it.

Some critics of the measure had accused Chiu and his fellow supervisors of putting an ill-conceived measure on the ballot without understanding its broad ramifications.

Chiu and others said that outcry was a telling indication that planned projects weren't complying with shadow requirements already on the books and that nobody was keeping track.

"That just proves my point - you are creating shadows," Chiu said. "I can't do my due diligence when the Planning Department doesn't have the analysis we're talking about."

Rahaim, the city's planning director for two years, wrote Tuesday in a memo to Chiu that during his tenure, the department "has been extremely cautious in recommendations on plans and projects which impact city parks."

Rahaim said the department had only recently obtained old files to answer Chiu's questions about how many exceptions had been granted to the rules established in 1989 to implement the 1984 voter initiative.
Rules on new buildings

Those rules bar construction of any building higher than 40 feet that casts an adverse shadow on Recreation and Park Department property unless the Planning Commission decides the shadow is insignificant.

It also set strict shadow limits on 14 downtown parks, including allowing for zero new shadows on 11 of those. The Planning Commission, with contributions from the Recreation and Park Commission, has the authority to modify those "shadow budgets" and has done so in select cases to allow for projects with significant public benefit, like affordable housing that shadows Boeddeker Park in the Tenderloin.

Newsom said those shadow budgets have been adjusted only five times over more than 20 years, and generally where only small portions of the park are affected for brief periods of time.

Chiu's ballot measure would have eliminated the discretion to allow even minor amounts of increased shadow and extended the restrictions to Market Street's Hallidie Plaza and United Nations Plaza and a three-block area that includes Yerba Buena Gardens.

It also would have given the supervisors final say over any tinkering with the rules, rather than the commissions that oversee the planning and park departments.
New measure possible

Chiu said he might still introduce a measure on the issue on the November ballot, depending on the results of the joint analysis with the mayor's office. The other supervisors who co-sponsored the measure were Sophie Maxwell, Ross Mirkarimi, Eric Mar and David Campos.

"I think without the debate around this ballot measure we would not have gotten to where we are," Chiu said. "As part of that, we may consider putting something on the November ballot."

E-mail the writers at jcote@sfchronicle.com and jking@sfchronicle.com.

This article appeared on page A - 1 of the San Francisco Chronicle
 
"That just proves my point - you are creating shadows," Chiu said.

No shit? Everything creates shadows you moron.
 
Even them, everyone knows that Zombies can stand.
 
Of course they can. Haven't you read The Zombie Survival Guide and World War: Z? A Zombie Apocalypse is imminent and everyone should be prepared.
 
I'm surprised Ground Hog day is a legal holiday now.
 
You guys can joke about zombies all you want but shadows from the dead is a serious problem. Have you been to a cemetery lately? They are just filled with obelisks, mausoleums, exceptionally tall headstones, etc. It is getting very hard to find a ray of sunshine in these important open spaces. They are becoming very sad and depressing places to visit.
 
You guys can joke about zombies all you want but shadows from the dead is a serious problem. Have you been to a cemetery lately? They are just filled with obelisks, mausoleums, exceptionally tall headstones, etc. It is getting very hard to find a ray of sunshine in these important open spaces. They are becoming very sad and depressing places to visit.

It's so hard to play a nice game of football or frisbee golf with all those things to trip over. Not to mention that people don't understand why you want to sunbathe in all that open space (I think the shadows bother them too). The government really should do something about all those things that stand up and ruin the great open spaces we city folk deserve.
 
^^ Well, you know at least some of those dead people are (were) greedy developers, so what do you expect? They just don't care about the communities they plop their bones in.
 
Newsom's letter to Chiu and the four supervisors who co-sponsored the measure warned that the proposal threatened projects such as the expansion of the Moscone Center and development of the new Transbay Terminal. Planning Director John Rahaim said it would also affect such projects as the expansion of the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art, the proposed Mexican Museum and even senior housing projects in Chinatown.

this kind of logic makes boston's head explode
 
What about this: place solar panels all over buildings on the sides opposite of the sides that would cast shadows on city parks. collect sunlight energy all day long from them, and for the portion of the day where a shadow would be cast in the park, have the parkside facade cast bright UV light out of strobe lights generated by the solar panels on the other side. That would, in effect, be like treating sunlight flow like a river and simply rerouting it (into the panels, stored in a generator, and then released through powerful exterior lights. I'm no expert so I don't know how this would work, but it seems like a cool idea if done right.
 
Does this seem feasible? The additional costs would be justified by the market premium office tenants would be (should be!) willing to pay to work superadjacent from a nice park, which would allow good office views. also, lunch is better in a park than on the sidewalk areas. If they aren't willing to pay higher rents, then don't build.
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Obviously you're being ironic.

I wasn't trying to be, although I'm not surprised if it came across that way. I'm no expert in this stuff, but it seems like an idea worth pursuing. I can imagine a host of complexities (like people complaining the light was unnatural, not being able to suntan in it, and/or it being too bright and obnoxious, but it seems like an idea that would nonetheless at least warrant a looking into. If its crazy just say so, I don't know enough about the logistics of such an idea.
 
They had a very similar plan for that TransNational Place or whatever thousand-foot tower Menino wanted to build. They used mirror to reflect sunlight down on the square that the development would create. Called heliotropes, I think. Tracked the sunlight with computers (I think the word heliotrope has something to do with the rotating sun in the sky, or at least, that's what Google makes it seem like).
 
Great, thanks for sharing kennedy, I thought this idea may have been too radical or impractical. Just googled the phrase and, although I didn't read anything relevant to architecture, I did skim a quick article about the plant species with the same name and, apparently, it is derived from the fact that some plants turn their leaves to face the sun as it moves. helio = sun, trope = turn in greek. Neat. Also, the article I read (wiki) said the old english word for this phenomenon is "turnsole."
 

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