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...and they have to agree on a price for the land where the existing facility is.
...and they have to agree on a price for the land where the existing facility is.
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And Ashkenazy Acquisition, the same company that runs Faneuil Hall Marketplace, purchased the 98-year lease to run the station’s concourse and upstairs office space for nearly $125 million earlier this year. There are a lot of players at this poker table
And Ashkenazy Acquisition, the same company that runs Faneuil Hall Marketplace, purchased the 98-year lease to run the station’s concourse and upstairs office space for nearly $125 million earlier this year. There are a lot of players at this poker table
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The agreement had been set to expire dec 31. but they were granted an additional 4 months tonight to gather further funding and work with state transportation officials.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2017/11/16/bpda/FQ69l4YVPwoGEhawO1HbZN/story.html
The agreement had been set to expire dec 31. but they were granted an additional 4 months tonight to gather further funding and work with state transportation officials.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2017/11/16/bpda/FQ69l4YVPwoGEhawO1HbZN/story.html
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Old render I made,
Had to re-upload after the photobucket fiasco:
Old render I made,
Had to re-upload after the photobucket fiasco:
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Too many moving pieces on the South Station development to get everybody on the same page.
This is a tough one.
Too many moving pieces on the South Station development to get everybody on the same page.
This is a tough one.
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While I wouldn't get my hopes up, nobody knows if this is actually cancelled or not. It's all just conjecture at this point.
Take this quote from the 2/21 article in the link:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/busines...-properties/6p1JijqsL3N1oTYulxsyWN/story.html
"The idea could potentially include a 51-story tower above the tracks at South Station that’s proposed by the Houston developer Hines. A spokeswoman for Hines said it expects to be able to start work soon on the tower, but declined to comment on the Amazon idea."
That's the 5th paragraph from the bottom. Maybe the tower went through another redesign (let's hope) and that's why it was taken off the site for now. We seem to be inferring a lot from just a little snippet of information. Fingers crossed that this will surprise us.
While I wouldn't get my hopes up, nobody knows if this is actually cancelled or not. It's all just conjecture at this point.
Take this quote from the 2/21 article in the link:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/busines...-properties/6p1JijqsL3N1oTYulxsyWN/story.html
"The idea could potentially include a 51-story tower above the tracks at South Station that’s proposed by the Houston developer Hines. A spokeswoman for Hines said it expects to be able to start work soon on the tower, but declined to comment on the Amazon idea."
That's the 5th paragraph from the bottom. Maybe the tower went through another redesign (let's hope) and that's why it was taken off the site for now. We seem to be inferring a lot from just a little snippet of information. Fingers crossed that this will surprise us.
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Could also mean that development rights have been (or are being) sold/transferred and it just hasn't hit the news yet. Often it's news released-->website updated.... but not always.
Could also mean that development rights have been (or are being) sold/transferred and it just hasn't hit the news yet. Often it's news released-->website updated.... but not always.
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Flynn and Menino squandered what meager skyscraper parcels we had–a problem that appears to have been discovered very late. It's been a couple of years for some to see this reality play out. It's next to impossible to build a skyscraper in Boston. It will never change. When we get near the last of the last parcels in the West End, only squat highrises will be built there as well, because a bunch of rich snotty fucks in Beacon Hill will make damn sure of it.
Boston is getting close to seeing it's last couple of true skyscrapers rise. Maybe Copley Place can be rescued by a brave developer. Maybe they solve the Harbor Garage. Maybe something narrow and tallish rises at 1 Bromfield St. And maybe the potential of this site at South Station can be realized. Otherwise, 111 Fed might well be the last 200m skyscraper ever built in Boston in our lifetimes.
You can practically bet on it.
Flynn and Menino squandered what meager skyscraper parcels we had–a problem that appears to have been discovered very late. It's been a couple of years for some to see this reality play out. It's next to impossible to build a skyscraper in Boston. It will never change. When we get near the last of the last parcels in the West End, only squat highrises will be built there as well, because a bunch of rich snotty fucks in Beacon Hill will make damn sure of it.
Boston is getting close to seeing it's last couple of true skyscrapers rise. Maybe Copley Place can be rescued by a brave developer. Maybe they solve the Harbor Garage. Maybe something narrow and tallish rises at 1 Bromfield St. And maybe the potential of this site at South Station can be realized. Otherwise, 111 Fed might well be the last 200m skyscraper ever built in Boston in our lifetimes.
You can practically bet on it.
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For what it's worth (which is probably nothing), it is still on the Gemdale website.
For what it's worth (which is probably nothing), it is still on the Gemdale website.
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The fact that a city with the economic significance of Boston lacks the legal authority to spearhead the construction of a skyscraper in any reasonable time frame where it is absolutely appropriate to do so, is another crack in the foundation, and a sign of our Metro's dysfunction.
The fact that a city with the economic significance of Boston lacks the legal authority to spearhead the construction of a skyscraper in any reasonable time frame where it is absolutely appropriate to do so, is another crack in the foundation, and a sign of our Metro's dysfunction.
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Can you please stop with the "there's nowhere left to build" bullshit.
Can you please stop with the "there's nowhere left to build" bullshit.
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Changing what someone says is pretty low. i said 'there is nowhere left to build SKYSCRAPERS. You're not the only one who conveniently leaves out the word to distort what i say to the point of making me sound ridiculous.
The theory isn't just demonstrated by the cancellation of Copley Tower, or 627' reduced to 544' in Back Bay (after they just cancelled the project's other tower), or the disappearance of 1 Bromfield and 2 Charlesgate W.... it's the many uncomplicated factors that pile on that make it impossible to build significantly tall.
I'll give you an example. If you tore down the office park at the JFK Fed property, you' have a damn hard time getting a 710' tower approved at that extreme height--because it would cast unwanted shadow over Beacon Hill. The North End community would also fight the project, and height would inevitably be reduced to another 450~500' highrise building, and width would be added.
The future has lots more 280'~320' fat highrises like what you see in the Seaport, Dudley or the Flower Exchange. But not many of the stunning a/r highrises and skyscrapers being built everywhere outside of Boston.
Copley Tower, SST, and in a few days, 500 Boylston will all have their permitting, and 1 or 2 of these may very well get done. But the City and Commonwealth collectively demonstrate enduring ineffectiveness in bringing its difficult projects to the construction phase.
Changing what someone says is pretty low. i said 'there is nowhere left to build SKYSCRAPERS. You're not the only one who conveniently leaves out the word to distort what i say to the point of making me sound ridiculous.
The theory isn't just demonstrated by the cancellation of Copley Tower, or 627' reduced to 544' in Back Bay (after they just cancelled the project's other tower), or the disappearance of 1 Bromfield and 2 Charlesgate W.... it's the many uncomplicated factors that pile on that make it impossible to build significantly tall.
I'll give you an example. If you tore down the office park at the JFK Fed property, you' have a damn hard time getting a 710' tower approved at that extreme height--because it would cast unwanted shadow over Beacon Hill. The North End community would also fight the project, and height would inevitably be reduced to another 450~500' highrise building, and width would be added.
The future has lots more 280'~320' fat highrises like what you see in the Seaport, Dudley or the Flower Exchange. But not many of the stunning a/r highrises and skyscrapers being built everywhere outside of Boston.
Copley Tower, SST, and in a few days, 500 Boylston will all have their permitting, and 1 or 2 of these may very well get done. But the City and Commonwealth collectively demonstrate enduring ineffectiveness in bringing its difficult projects to the construction phase.
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If you're so obsessed with living in a city with "SKYSCRAPERS" then move. You can get a UAE investor visa with a commitment as small as ~$250k.
If you're so obsessed with living in a city with "SKYSCRAPERS" then move. You can get a UAE investor visa with a commitment as small as ~$250k.
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^^Maybe he gets off on the misery? Some people are into that.
Besides, it's very probable that we won't see many large projects in the future anyways with the new steel tariffs. Developers are already having trouble making it feasible to build in this city. Increase cost in construction material will only make it that much more difficult to build. So if you feel miserable now, well consider finding another fetish to obsess over.
^^Maybe he gets off on the misery? Some people are into that.
Besides, it's very probable that we won't see many large projects in the future anyways with the new steel tariffs. Developers are already having trouble making it feasible to build in this city. Increase cost in construction material will only make it that much more difficult to build. So if you feel miserable now, well consider finding another fetish to obsess over.
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