- Mar 14, 2008
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They sure spent a lot of money on marketing for something that will never happen.
Yea youre right. I can see a lot more of the same happening here but this shiny mini city they have here in the renderings I really have a tough time believing will ever come to fruitionA lot of residential has gone in. But all of it is 100% residential with big surface parking lots. No retail.
And a bs one at that since the jackasses in Rockland nixed the reconnection of union Street Rockland to union Street Weymouth like it was before the Navy took the land.This got a write up in the Times today.
Union Point is such a terrible name.
I've learned to look at these proposals and judge the likelihood of their success by whether or not the phasing makes sense. If you look at Assembly they had a project phasing with underlying business models that made sense given the location was already in a densely populated area. If you have a blank slate and show a full build-out that clearly will take many many years and require a huge capital investment then my first question is what are you actually going to be able to build in the next 3 to 5 years and the 3 to 5 years after that and the 30 year plan is just a pretty picture.http://weymouth.wickedlocal.com/news/20181001/weymouth-mayor-hopeful-about-union-points-future
These master developers all seem like theyre shady as hell, why can't they get things going down there in a good economy? If not now, it will never happen. I believe Quincy has had similar issues with their master development of Quincy Center.
I agree under this master developer nothing much will get done. I think there's some behind the scenes antics going on. I heard something about they get free water police firefighters and trash service as currently stands. Or they're very behind on those payments. It reeks of this company taking advantage of the towns and getting something for nothing. They will probably go bankrupt and not pay any of their bills while simultaneously paying their CEO $40 mill.To make it work, you really would need the Red line extended there or Indigo with double track. Neither of those are really all that realistic TBH.
When I was there, it totally screamed "It will never be finished".
This is cancelled."Dutch robotics company moving to Union Point."
So... this is going be a strip mall with some 4-on-1 apartment blocks.The firm pointed to University Station in Westwood as an example of the development team’s experience with failed mixed-use projects. When the team took over in 2010, the project had $400 million in unpaid debt and $160 million in infrastructure needs. University Station is now a successful 2-million-square-foot mixed-use development worth more than $800 million.
Good thing the state's almost done widening Route 18 in time for the "Circular Access Road Automile" to set up shop inside. Let's see...a Jordan's Furniture with indoor Sea World exhibit next door to Ernie Boch's Virtual Reality Hyundai Emporium?The site has been transferred to the much more competent team of Brookfield Properties and New England Development. The bad news is this:
So... this is going be a strip mall with some 4-on-1 apartment blocks.
WEYMOUTH — The board overseeing the redevelopment of the former South Weymouth Naval Air Station has selected Brookfield Properties to take overwww.patriotledger.com
South Weymouth CR station is almost uselessly far from this development, though. Commons at Southfield Highlands are >1500 ft. away on a most ped-unfriendly high-speed access road with pathetically tiny sidewalks and a bike lane seemingly designed to encourage getting doored by the hastily-striped on-street parking. The northernmost parcels are a full 1.3 miles...closer to the old pre-1958 South Weymouth neighborhood walkup station at the corner of Derby/Pond/Hollis St.'s that the T bypassed with icky-poo faces during the Old Colony service restoration because it couldn't host a big ol' parking sink. Unless RUR service infills a new intermediate stop there at the old depot (I guess renaming existing SW to "Southfield" in the process) and the private developers pony up for a neighborhood circulator bus between the two stops the "TOD" here is always going to be tongue-in-cheek for how utterly not-at-all transit-oriented it is in-practice. And...jeez...if the Westwood Landing people couldn't TOD their way out of a paper bag with an extremely well-patronized train station right front-and-center on the property, there's almost no hope they'll be intrepid enough to fashion a transit connection out of what today is total disconnection. SW continues to project forevermore as just Route 18's faceless Pn'R lot in actual usage with what weak sauce continues to pass for a 'vision' on this giant slab of land. If they were smart they'd be trying to mime to Legacy Place @ Dedham Corporate way, way more than Westwood Landing...but being the same outfit I guess they've gotta eat their own planning dogfood hell or high water.Hopefully it's more Pinehills than University Park for the housing at least. Would love to see some extra commuter rail service to South Weymouth (maybe double-track the stretch, there's room for it); not including UP, there's 300 units under construction next door, another 150 units permitted along Route 18 and 25 units permitted about half a mile up the street. Meanwhile the trains are standing-room only from here to South Station in both directions.