Westin Copley

Where in IP is Palm opening? I didn't realize there was vacant retail/restaurant space in there. Would be great if it faced the Greenway, on the other hand IP faces directly onto a ramp parcel.
 
If it switched over from a hotel to residential condos, in a better housing market, a re-skin and reconfiguration of the street level could be financially tenable. The ground level drop off area would go away and the lower floors could viably be converted into retail. Stick an anchor tenant like Nordstrom, Bloomindales, or the world's largest WholeFoods as a nod to S.S. Pierce, in there on a long term lease and there's a significant chunk of financing up front.
 
kmp1284 said:
The Palm's moving to International Place. I'm not sure what the name of it is, but some Mexican or Brazilian steakhouse is opening up in the Westin.
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Could be a shift towards the Greenway for the rich which might be the place to occupy instead of the Backbay in the future. Interesting.


Shepard said:
Where in IP is Palm opening? I didn't realize there was vacant retail/restaurant space in there. Would be great if it faced the Greenway, on the other hand IP faces directly onto a ramp parcel.
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Why didn't they roof the ramp with more Greenery and a fence for that location?

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If it switched over from a hotel to residential condos, in a better housing market, a re-skin and reconfiguration of the street level could be financially tenable. The ground level drop off area would go away and the lower floors could viably be converted into retail. Stick an anchor tenant like Nordstrom, Bloomindales, or the world's largest WholeFoods as a nod to S.S. Pierce, in there on a long term lease and there's a significant chunk of financing up front.
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So for the right price you see potential.

Lurker,
Question do you see a trend favoring the Greenway over the Backbay in the future?
 
NJBostonFan said:
I like the Westin. I've stayed there a lot. It's cozy!
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I like it too. The first time I came to Boston, it was with my dad who was here for a convention at the Westin. I was amazed by the view of the South End -- the sea of brick, the old El. passing by the fictitious St. Eligus. I was captivated and it was mainly that view from our room the Westin, along with the thrill of riding on good public transit that led me to apply to colleges in Boston.
 
Lurker said:
If it switched over from a hotel to residential condos, in a better housing market, a re-skin and reconfiguration of the street level could be financially tenable. The ground level drop off area would go away and the lower floors could viably be converted into retail. Stick an anchor tenant like Nordstrom, Bloomindales, or the world's largest WholeFoods as a nod to S.S. Pierce, in there on a long term lease and there's a significant chunk of financing up front.
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Lurk -- never going to happen -- there is already a shortage of hotel rooms connected to the Hynes

Hynes is specializing in business and technical conferences with a relatively small need for exhibition spaces

The best option to meet the demand for connected hotel rooms (to accommodate our usually unpleasant winter weather) is to redevelop the MidTown site into 2 or 3 towers (one a lower price Marriott Suites or lower priced Sheraton) with a gerbil tube into the Pru complex
 
The Midtown site will never have anything taller than the mid-rise Green House apartments next door developed because the CSC, city, and locals, would shit a brick if a wide shadow and image was cast into the reflecting pool for most of the day.
 
vanshnookenraggen said:
Building a green roof/winter garden over the low convention hall would be a great thing to do. Open that up to hotel guests, have a restaurant or something up there and dine overlooking Copley Sq.
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Damn good idea, if you look at google earth that is a huge roof with nothing on it. If it was done right it would be one best spaces in the city for restaurant, functions etc.

From looking at the floor plans http://www.starwoodhotels.com/westin/property/meetings/index.html?propertyID=1035&language=en_US

It looks like the the floor that is level with the roof is a mechanical floor so they would have to invest some big money but I would think in the long run it would be worth it for the hotel operator. It would also have an additional benefit of making the views better for the rooms on the lower floors of the hotel that overlook the roof.
 
bosma said:
Damn good idea, if you look at google earth that is a huge roof with nothing on it. If it was done right it would be one best spaces in the city for restaurant, functions etc.

From looking at the floor plans http://www.starwoodhotels.com/westin/property/meetings/index.html?propertyID=1035&language=en_US

It looks like the the floor that is level with the roof is a mechanical floor so they would have to invest some big money but I would think in the long run it would be worth it for the hotel operator. It would also have an additional benefit of making the views better for the rooms on the lower floors of the hotel that overlook the roof.
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Bosma -- that sounds like a great opportunity for someone to really improve the hotel without stripping the exterior walls

This could be a Boston version of the Skypark atop of the Sands Marina Bay in Singapore

Put atop the low rise of the Westin a 2 story glass box with a sports stadium-style openable transparent roof:
Bottom floor -- indoor restaurant with big windows and stairs to the top level
Top floor -- "open air" roof deck next to sky parkette -- plants, pool -- spectacular view year round -- tremendous location -- WOW!
 
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