Rose Kennedy Greenway

I think they should have left the artery and invested in public transportation to reduce traffic. Then...

(unrealistic fantasy world version) traffic would have been reduced to a point where the highway could be removed.

(reality version) waste, bad planning and NIMBY road blocking probably would have resulted in a whole lot of nothing.
 
TheRifleman said:
I actually miss the Green Line at North Station the elevated T. I thought it gave the area more character going to the celts and bruins games. Just felt like BOSTON at it's best.
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Agreed. It felt better to be drunk in that setting.
 
TheRifleman said:
I actually miss the Green Line at North Station the elevated T. I thought it gave the area more character going to the celts and bruins games. Just felt like BOSTON at it's best.
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Yeah, I really miss that, too. And when I look at pictures, it's just the same combination of charm and grit that I remember. The old artery, on the other hand, just looks like the POS it was.
 
The Greenway @ Night

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i walked past the harbor island pavilions last night and they are coming along quite nicely.
 
TheRifleman said:
Awesome stuff. What time did you take those pics. Nobody is out.
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Oh there were people out. But when you do long exposure photography the people become "Ghosted" out and you can't even see them.
This is sort of near the Spires past the aquaruium

Here is the info on the shot.

Camera Canon EOS 40D
Exposure 10
Aperture f/22.0
Focal Length 35 mm
ISO Speed 100
 
Beautiful shot. Really illustrates what a gorgeous open space the Rose Kennedy Memorial Freeway is to drive through.
 
The only green in the Greenway is the traffic lights.

Great energy in this shot.

Zaha Hadid's renderings try to have the same kinetic vibe.
 
It's funny that GreenwayDouche1982 doesn't swarm in to defend the Greenway so much on this thread, but spends so much time protesting height along the Greenway when proposed developments are adjacent to the Harbor Towers. Hmmmm.

Why didn't choose the name HarborTowerGuy1982 instead? That would have been more respectable.
 
Besides dvelopments at key locations at Harbor Garage and Congress St. Garage. What could honestly help the GREENWAY.

Just unbelievable Landscaping?

I personally feel that the Greenway might never live up to it's potential without the developments but I could be dead wrong.
 
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Nice try type001...guess again.

And Rifleman, how would those developments "help the Greenway reach its potential" exactly? Back when the CA/T was being planned, no one had any dreams of glory that the new park would be the most spectacular park in the world - we just all knew that it would be a hell of a lot better than the elevated artery. I don't understand your revisionist history on this point and somewhat irrelevant assertions that two more big buildings (when the Greenway is already lined with big buildings on the downtown side) would do anything to "help" the Greenway....help it become what? What's wrong with the Greenway as it is?
 
Help it be a more urban space, seeing as how it's located in the middle of a city and all.
 
greenwayguy1982 said:
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Nice try type001...guess again.

And Rifleman, how would those developments "help the Greenway reach its potential" exactly? Back when the CA/T was being planned, no one had any dreams of glory that the new park would be the most spectacular park in the world - we just all knew that it would be a hell of a lot better than the elevated artery. I don't understand your revisionist history on this point and somewhat irrelevant assertions that two more big buildings (when the Greenway is already lined with big buildings on the downtown side) would do anything to "help" the Greenway....help it become what? What's wrong with the Greenway as it is?
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Make it more accessible, i.e. no freeway speed on either side.
 
greenwayguy1982 said:
Back when the CA/T was being planned, no one had any dreams of glory that the new park would be the most spectacular park in the world - we just all knew that it would be a hell of a lot better than the elevated artery.
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That's quite a high standard: better than a rusty highway overpass. Bravo!

greenwayguy1982 said:
What's wrong with the Greenway as it is?
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In short, the Greenway represents a perfect storm of incompetent urban planning, irrational, amateurish landscape design, and cheap or climatically inappropriate finishes, all served up with a steaming side of political pandering to obstructionist activists. It's a failure of the first order, from its unfocused design to bloated administration. Celebrating the Greenway only amplifies its mediocrity.

Improving it requires that about two thirds of it be built upon: human-scaled buildings (6-8 floors) using a contextual materials palate and the highest standards in design (regardless of style) and finishes. The remaining pocket parks should be enclosed with low masonry walls or iron fences, to shelter those using the parks from the vehicular traffic that swarms around them. And wherever possible at the edges, density and height. Residential and office towers that meet the street with retail and restaurant space.
 
greenwayguy1982 said:
I don't understand your revisionist history on this point and somewhat irrelevant assertions that two more big buildings (when the Greenway is already lined with big buildings on the downtown side) would do anything to "help" the Greenway....help it become what? What's wrong with the Greenway as it is?
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If martians came to earth and read this thread they would deduce that GreenwayGuy likes parks without humans, arguing with humans and repetition.
 
Mmmmkay....let me phrase my question more pointedly to Rifleman's specious assertion:

How would the development of the Harbor Garage (and Congress St Garage) be transformative to the Greenway and turn it into all the things noted above? I don't understand how, when the Greenway runs alongside a downtown that already has about 40 million SF of towers in it, another one or two towers will have any material benefit with respect to the activation of the parks. Someone please explain how this will be the case. Because that appears to be the basic, underlying assertion being made by Chiofaro - that his project will somehow single-handedly save the Greenway and "activate" it. I'm not buying it. That's all.
 
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