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whighlander said:
SM -- the really funny part is that the Post Office is shrinking so fast that it could go back to hand sorting and still have a lot fewer facilities and workers

A study by the Boston Consulting Group*1 projects that by 2020 the total USPS volume will be expected to drop to 150B pieces from the peak of 213B pieces in 2006 in their baseline scenario In a worst case [for the USPS] the volume could drop to nearly 1/2 what it was in 2006


*1 https://about.usps.com/future-postal-service/gcg-narrative.pdf
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And the bulk of that with be junk mail, which is pre-sorted and machine readable.

The post office owning space at all, rather than leasing it, is also anachronistic (though i do think that historic post offices should in many cases be protected....somehow)
 
sm89 said:
Well that's not all true. Letters are way down, but packages are through the roof with the increase in online shopping. That's where the real money is. Also, Fedex and I think UPS as well have distribution deals with USPS so that letter carriers deliver a good majority of the "competition's" packages.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-mail-does-the-trick-for-fedex-ups-1407182247
http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/242046
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SM -- but the relevant matter is that packages aside from the occasional hand-tied with string sent to the "old country" are all machine processable

standard size. standard labels and machine readable often with bar codes -- no humans need apply
 
Congratulations, guys. You took the trollbait and now we're on Page 2 of the wonderful world of postal sorting machines and talking points about shiftless public-union employees.:rolleyes:
 
So how about that tower? I would imagine that Hines is near the point where they are going to take the planned development off the table.
 
F-Line to Dudley said:
Congratulations, guys. You took the trollbait and now we're on Page 2 of the wonderful world of postal sorting machines and talking points about shiftless public-union employees.:rolleyes:
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Only because Westy Clavin still hasn't been banned.

Poor man simply cannot help himself. :rolleyes:
 
shmessy said:
Only because Westy Clavin still hasn't been banned.

Poor man simply cannot help himself. :rolleyes:
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Shmess -relax -- Nothing is going to happen to the PO at South Station anytime soon

If it does -- you will be notified -- by the AB Forum Reverse 9-11 posting service
 
whighlander said:
Shmess -relax -- Nothing is going to happen to the PO at South Station anytime soon

If it does -- you will be notified -- by the AB Forum Reverse 9-11 posting service
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At least I brought him back on subject. ;)
 
shmessy said:
At least I brought him back on subject. ;)
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Shmess -- but whom will do so for you? :D

Now -- back to our sponsor:

But if they ever did tear down the old South Postal Annex -- there could be a whole street of shops and restaurants opposite to the "activated" edge of the Fort Point Channel -- or even an Olympic Blvd
 
I'd be happier if we'd just ban emoji's. Bunch of old men posting like an Anne Frank Trapper Keeper in here.
 
I think you may mean Lisa Frank.
 
I'm laughing so hard right now people in the next building can hear me.
 
Eight years later, --a resurrection? real estate click bait? or a bigger tease than anyone who ever danced at the Old Howard?

www.bostonglobe.com

Hope springs anew that Postal Service could move to make way for South Station expansion - The Boston Globe

Lawmakers are pushing Postal Service to move on the long-discussed land swap that could enable South Station to grow.
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.. But in the past several weeks, efforts at conversation have renewed. First, in March, new Massachusetts transportation secretary Gina Fiandaca sent a letter to Benjamin Kuo, vice president of facilities at the USPS, asking to reengage in discussions regarding the “General Mail Facility” — as the sorting center on Dorchester Avenue is called. By acquiring this roughly 15-acre property, state transportation officials hope to add 7 to 10 tracks to the 13 that serve the maxed-out South Station today.
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Then, US Representative Steve Lynch, a South Boston Democrat who counts the Postal Service among his top issues in Washington, confirmed his support of the move in a meeting with state Representative Bill Straus, the House chairman of the Legislature’s transportation committee. Lynch said he would take the lead in pushing USPS for a deal on behalf of the Massachusetts congressional delegation. Straus has been raising concerns because the station is at capacity — complicating plans to increase train frequency, particularly with regard to the extra service under discussion for Western Massachusetts.
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In that scenario, state transportation officials would have planned a new, modern facility for the Postal Service off Pappas Way and Fargo Street in South Boston on land owned by the Massachusetts Port Authority. The state transportation department would have acquired the USPS site next to South Station, to add more train tracks. And Massport would have been reimbursed by getting property that the Postal Service uses for parking off A Street.
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stellarfun said:
Eight years later, --a resurrection? real estate click bait? or a bigger tease than anyone who ever danced at the Old Howard?

www.bostonglobe.com

Hope springs anew that Postal Service could move to make way for South Station expansion - The Boston Globe

Lawmakers are pushing Postal Service to move on the long-discussed land swap that could enable South Station to grow.
www.bostonglobe.com www.bostonglobe.com
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Some Globe poster called Shmessy posted in the comments section there, opining on the significance of "8 Years":

"......It has been more than eight years since negotiations fell apart over a deal that would have moved the Postal Service to a newly-built facility about a mile away in South Boston, near the Reserved Channel. And things have been quiet ever since......."

Hmmmm.....eight years.....eight years....... what's the significance of that timeframe??????

Oh yeah - - Charlie (Stude)Baker came into the Governorship then - - and deep-sixed this. And now, Maura Healey is resurrecting the effort, becuase she actually GIVES A *&^% about public transportation and the economic competitiveness of Massachusetts. Chuck StudeBaker just wanted cars and highways.

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stellarfun said:
Eight years later, --a resurrection? real estate click bait? or a bigger tease than anyone who ever danced at the Old Howard?

www.bostonglobe.com

Hope springs anew that Postal Service could move to make way for South Station expansion - The Boston Globe

Lawmakers are pushing Postal Service to move on the long-discussed land swap that could enable South Station to grow.
www.bostonglobe.com www.bostonglobe.com
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Do they really need that many new tracks? It would be cool if they could sneak in some parkland or narrow buildings (air rights?) adjacent to the Channel.

I'd be happy if the USPS just sold the soul-crushing giant surface parking lot in the Seaport just south of Summer near the Convention Center.
 
Smuttynose said:
Do they really need that many new tracks? It would be cool if they could sneak in some parkland or narrow buildings (air rights?) adjacent to the Channel.

I'd be happy if the USPS just sold the soul-crushing giant surface parking lot in the Seaport just south of Summer near the Convention Center.
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The whole plan is for a strip of air rights buildings along the channel.

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king_vibe said:
The whole plan is for a strip of air rights buildings along the channel.

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I think that max build proposal is as dead as a dodo. Instead of building extra tracks at South station, proponents of the North South rail link want that project to be funded instead.

From the Globe article,
Proponents of the North-South Rail Link, a proposed underground tunnel that would connect South Station with North Station, say their long-discussed proposal would be a smarter use of public funds because trains could simply keep flowing through downtown rather than having to back in and out of a South Station terminal. But state transportation officials appear far more focused on expanding South Station, including by recently signing a $255 million deal to buy a nearby industrial area known as Widett Circle for use as a railyard.

“It’s a serious misdirection of policy because people don’t have an eye on the real solution, the North-South Rail Link,” said John Businger, vice chair of an advocacy group called the North South Rail Link Working Group. “They’re pushing one without doing anything on the other.”
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If the Post Office leaves, is there any part of a NSRL that would preclude dense construction along Dorchester Ave? (Apart from the fact that NSRL will not ever occur.)
 
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