Pinnacle at Central Wharf (Harbor Garage) | 70 East India Row | Waterfront | Downtown

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Does the aquarium even have that sort of money to do a complete makeover? And what sort of hoops would it have to go through to expand over and into the harbor, even though no actual filling in of the harbor will occur? That in itself must be bureaucratic nightmare!
 
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-^^ And from what I read, the aquarium wants the Blueway in exchange for its acquiescence to the redevelopment of the garage.
 
Does the aquarium even have that sort of money to do a complete makeover? And what sort of hoops would it have to go through to expand over and into the harbor, even though no actual filling in of the harbor will occur? That in itself must be bureaucratic nightmare!
Q. Does the Aquarium have enough money?
>IMO, probably not enough money to reconstruct the Aquarium as is now being depicted in several renderings and the video. Caveat, one or two mega donors could change that. The current Aquarium is 135,000 sq ft. CBT architects said with the Blueway, the Aquarium will be 225,000 sq ft. I don't know whether the 225,000 square feet is strictly building, or includes the promenade.

>IMO, possibly enough money to provide resiliency against sea level rise through 2070. I don't know what the Boston City Base (BCB) elevation is for the Aquarium. The Harbor Garage BCB is 17 feet. A photo in the BCDC presentation shows minor flooding of Old Atlantic Ave in front of the Aquarium, probably occurring during the record highest-tide-ever in Boston of several years ago. That tide was 15.2 feet. The resiliency design guidelines state that a building owner should protect to about 21 feet, or six feet above that highest ever tide level. The Aquarium is apparently proposing to do at least some of this as part of the Blueway

>IMO, with financial help from others, (e.g., city and state, private donors) probably enough money to construct the Blueway (promenade)

>Again IMO, the Aquarium is trying to secure financial help to secure the Blueway, and possibly for some resiliency. I assume one could do the Blueway without providing full resiliency to 21 feet.

Q. What sort of hoops would it need to go through?
Not as many as you would think. I believe it was Tip O'Neill who saw to that.
the Magenta Zone, as represented in Figure 3, an area designated in 1968 by an Act of Congress (PL 90-312) as “non-navigable” and therefore not subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. The practical implication of this designation is that a greater degree of responsibility for the management of this watersheet lies with the City of Boston.

Although no project proposed in the DTW MHP appears to impact the Magenta Zone, proposed water transportation facilities, potential public amenities as specified in the City of Boston design and use plan (see the amplification in Section 3.2.1 below), and additional public amenities that may be required as part of the Waterways licensing process may be located within the Magenta Zone, providing greater flexibility in permitting these public amenities.

The Aquarium is within the Magenta Zone.
 
It would make more sense now that the Aquarium jumps on board and starts to have fundraisers to help develop their own ambitions for the area at the same time Harbor Garage gets developed.

I only view the Aquarium group along with the rest of the NIMBY's just complaining about the developer's project and not really doing anything to help the area.
 
Boston still has sooo much potential, its crazy. Things like this really put in perspective just how great this city could really be. Its already great, but even then has tons more potential yet still.

The greenway really is coming into its own, and the waterfront it nice, but it still has soo far it could go. I really hope we do get a glass aquarium with incredible harbor views, a much better waterfront connection, and that garage is gone FOREVER. The aquarium and its immediate vicinity really are a gem waiting to be polished. The pieces are there to be something absolutely special. I hope everybody realizes this has the potential to be something truly special and it comes to fruition.
 
It would make more sense now that the Aquarium jumps on board and starts to have fundraisers to help develop their own ambitions for the area at the same time Harbor Garage gets developed.

I only view the Aquarium group along with the rest of the NIMBY's just complaining about the developer's project and not really doing anything to help the area.
Johnnyrocket -- someone should talk to Meffa Native Mike Bloomberg. He gave $50M to the MOS. The NEAQ should talk to him about the Blueway.

Bloomberg just dropped $500M on winning American Samoa in the Democrat Primary on Tuesday. $50 to $100 to the Aquarium is for him in Millions is like $50 to $100 for the rest of us.
 
If there can be a Rose Kennedy Greenway then there must be a Bloomberg Family Blueway.
 
Moved the SJC ruling on development lawsuits here. Please continue there!
 
If there can be a Rose Kennedy Greenway then there must be a Bloomberg Family Blueway.
Tobyjug -- this is what Mike B. said about the MOS [don't know what kind of relationship he had with the Aquarium]

Michael Bloomberg gives transformative $50 million gift to the Museum.

Growing up in Medford, Massachusetts, Michael Bloomberg used to take a trolley, a subway, and a bus to the Museum of Science every Saturday morning. Of this decades-long relationship, Bloomberg says, "I know how important this Museum is and what an impact it can have on young people — because I was one of those young people."
"Those mornings were the highlight of my weeks—and they helped define the course of my life," Bloomberg says. "The Museum of Science is where I learned to ask questions, to recognize just how much there is to learn about the world, and to follow science wherever it leads."

Eventually settling in New York City, where he launched his world-renowned company Bloomberg, L.P. and later became a three-term mayor, he credits those visits to the Museum as inspiring him to "become an engineer, a technology entrepreneur, a philanthropist, and a mayor."

Now Bloomberg ... — has ensured that visitors can have the same eye-opening, life-changing experiences he did as a boy. The $50 million gift provides an endowment for the support of the Museum’s Education Division to be named the William and Charlotte Bloomberg Science Education Center in honor of his parents. It also provides funds to research, design, develop, pilot-test, and disseminate computational thinking/computer science curriculum and activities, as well as funds to develop and produce high-quality food-science initiatives.

The largest single gift in the Museum’s history — the endowment solidifies the Museum’s position as one of the premier educational institutions in the world and transforms its ability to inspire all who enter to think, learn, and question. It also makes possible the longevity of the dynamic exhibits and inspirational programs you know and love.

If I was connected with the Aquarium -- I'd try to find a way to get to the William and Charlotte Bloomberg Blueway at the New England Aquarium or some such designation. Since he's heavily into Climate [mini-Catastrophism] -- the angle might be that:
the Blueway and associated transformation of the original structure to accomodate rising sea levels would preserve the access to the wonders of the sea for another generation of young future Mike Bloombergs
 
Why not! Bernie can get naming rights to the Red Line too, and so on.
 
Email received just now...

Dear Friend:
We hope this email finds you well and that you and your loved ones are staying safe and healthy during these unprecedented times. We have been working over the last several months to compile the feedback we have received so far, and we are pleased to report that the Pinnacle at Central Wharf, our vision for the redevelopment of Boston’s Harbor Garage, is moving forward, and the public meeting process will resume immediately.

We invite you to join the conversation. Now more than ever, our goal is to deliver an extraordinarily inclusive project that will incorporate input from across the neighborhood, the city and beyond. As the development review process unfolds, we will keep you apprised of upcoming discussions and events regarding the project.

In light of ongoing public health considerations, the BPDA will be hosting all meetings virtually. This format allows for more participation and more input as attendees can join from their living rooms. We invite you to log on, ask questions, or use the chat function to share thoughts, ideas, and questions.

  • Public Meeting | September 9 | 6:00-8:30pm
    • BPDA host zoom
    • Register using this link, & you will receive a confirmation email with instructions for joining the meeting.
  • More meetings, including an Open House will be scheduled in Sept./Oct.
  • MEPA | September 14 | 5:00pm
    • Online Consultation Session open to the public
    • Please RSVP to erexford@epsilonassociates.com by 5:00 PM on September 11, 2020 for instructions on joining the video conference or calling in by phone.
  • Comment Period Closes | October 2

The public will be asked if they would like to comment at the end of the presentations – we would love to hear from you!

In addition, here are some other ways you can stay informed and ask questions:
  1. Check out our website, PinnacleCentralWharf.com, and our social media channels for ongoing updates.
  2. Let us know if you would be interested in a briefing on the project. Email us at info@chiofaro.com.
 
Funny, I just thought about this project yesterday because I thought this thing was no way a possibility, especially since it's offering the same as the now dismembered portion of Winthrop Center.

The site looked great and then I scrolled down to the team, and for some reason the descriptions of the people was such a turn off. Just go to the website scroll down their confusing webpage without advancing. It's as if they ran duckboats not building a billion dollar tower, not that there's anything wrong with that..as my girlfriend would say, it's just 'off brand.'

you'll know what I mean when you get there...

 
Im obsessed with this tower and how gorgeous it looks. This one specifically, I will push for the city to build. I didnt like the two tower design earlier this decade. It is pure elegance, and for me (probably not everyone), it will be the closest thing to a crown in the Downtown part of the skyline.

Im a champion for this! If you havent already.. fill out a comment card!!! Lets get the Pinnacle built!
 
Can someone refresh my memory about what legal power the harbor towers have over this site. Like I know that residents there have been one of the largest opposition groups and that the new development guarantees like 300 parking spots for tower residents. My question is: why? Why does the developer have to do anything to appease the harbor towers?

you'll know what I mean when you get there...

"Rob can frequently be found wearing an obscure ballcap while walking with his family along the Greenway and Harborwalk, and his passion for hockey jerseys is matched only by his passion for great public spaces."

What in the world is an "obscure ballcap"?!

I kind of like the wonky descriptions. I imagine they're intended to make the team seem more approachable and down to Earth.


Im obsessed with this tower and how gorgeous it looks.

Be nice if it were taller... :'(
 
I kind of like the wonky descriptions. I imagine they're intended to make the team seem more approachable and down to Earth.

Me too. Feels like I place I would want to work for and a group of people I would want to work with.


Be nice if it were taller... :'(

FAA height limit, coupled with shadow on the harbor laws, precluded this one from exceeding 600'. If we get right to that 600' limit (and not, say, 598') that's good enough for me! In fact, even a few feet lower is good enough, the tower is awesome. I just like the symbolism of hitting 600'.
 
FAA height limit...precluded this one from exceeding 600'.

I know, I know. It's just a cool design and a prominent location, so it'd be nice if it could literally stand out from the crowd a bit.

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On a semi-related note: could you maybe point me in the direction of another thread? I don't know which one to look in.

I'm wondering how Logan is planning to handle rising sea levels should the prophecy come to pass. Even if (by some miracle) sea level rise isn't pronounced enough to flood Logan, would Boston need a second airport anyway if it keeps growing? If so, where would that second airport go, or are Manch and PVD enough?

If Logan ever closes, what might get built in its place?
 
On a semi-related note: could you maybe point me in the direction of another thread? I don't know which one to look in....

I did a search (in the upper right) for "Logan" and used titles only.

2013 general thread

2017 "imagine" thread

An actual longer, comprehensive thread called Logan Airport Capital Projects, 2016-present

For reference, the current FAA map regarding logan's airspace. Note that the heights are from sea level, and that North Station blew a solid opportunity on that front. Use the lower right to blow it up to full size, which is still smaller than I'd like it to be.
 
I know, I know. It's just a cool design and a prominent location, so it'd be nice if it could literally stand out from the crowd a bit.

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On a semi-related note: could you maybe point me in the direction of another thread? I don't know which one to look in.

I'm wondering how Logan is planning to handle rising sea levels should the prophecy come to pass. Even if (by some miracle) sea level rise isn't pronounced enough to flood Logan, would Boston need a second airport anyway if it keeps growing? If so, where would that second airport go, or are Manch and PVD enough?


No prob. They have it all figured out:


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