Logan Airport Capital Projects

Justbuildit said:
Has to be B6 right? Unless they’re going to take the current lounge that’s there (and is always horrible and overcrowded). A Centurion would be great though.

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They're building 2 new lounge spaces in C; the announced JetBlue space would fit the C25 shell, while the other C10 space doesn't yet have an announced tenant - it's this space that would potentially become a Amex Centurion.
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Equilibria said:
November Board slides are up: https://www.massport.com/sites/default/files/2024-12/Website-November-Board-Meeting-11.21.24.pdf

Decent amount of detail about projects at E, B, A, and the North Service Area.
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Just pulling in the relevant slides:

Terminal A:
The Satellite terminal will be getting a new "mini food court" featuring a bigger Dunks in a vacant former Summer Shack
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Terminal B:
The new passenger pickup area is apparently in operation, which was sorely needed;
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Terminal E:
Existing terminal will see significant reconfiguration upgrades to CBP facility, two new banks of elevators/escalators, three new moving walkways in the expansion's CBP hallway, design refinements to the previously proposed new "make up room," minor updates to the existing food court. Phase 2 additional gates and BL connection appear to have been further deferred, and unclear if the new bag room will accommodate a the BL walkway through/above it.
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North Service Area:
New renders, more clarity on justification and resilience components.
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I know I shook my cane on this earlier, but I arrived from Paris last Sunday and have to say...those CBP corridors in the E extension are already super narrow given the volume of passengers departing a wide body. It's going to be bedlam squeezing in a moving walkway to the mix.
 
If nothing else, at least we know Massport still has the final expansion of terminal E (3 gates) and a direct connection to the blue line station in the works. Hopefully we get the APM going before 2030.
 
A bit off topic, but LGA has been winning accolades since its multi-year reconstruction. Sure the flow of people within the terminal has been much improved, but anyone who's been there lately knows the airport roadways are a all-day clusterfuck of cars, ubers, and buses. It's incredible that even after going through a full-depth reconstruction of all the roadways (and scrapping the airtrain, but that's a different story), they couldn't even at a bare minimum build a dedicated transit center road loop so the Q70, SBS buses, and other employee shuttles don't have to mix with private cars and ubers. Instead, we get 90+% SOV mode share for people arriving/departing LGA for the next 25 years.

www.cbsnews.com

LaGuardia named best airport in the United States by Forbes Travel Guide

LaGuardia Airport was named the Best U.S. Airport in Forbes Travel Guide's inaugural luxury air travel awards.
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We better hope the next time Logan sees a influx of money they do anything to make the transit experience better.
 
sneijder said:
A bit off topic, but LGA has been winning accolades since its multi-year reconstruction. Sure the flow of people within the terminal has been much improved, but anyone who's been there lately knows the airport roadways are a all-day clusterfuck of cars, ubers, and buses. It's incredible that even after going through a full-depth reconstruction of all the roadways (and scrapping the airtrain, but that's a different story), they couldn't even at a bare minimum build a dedicated transit center road loop so the Q70, SBS buses, and other employee shuttles don't have to mix with private cars and ubers. Instead, we get 90+% SOV mode share for people arriving/departing LGA for the next 25 years.

www.cbsnews.com

LaGuardia named best airport in the United States by Forbes Travel Guide

LaGuardia Airport was named the Best U.S. Airport in Forbes Travel Guide's inaugural luxury air travel awards.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com

We better hope the next time Logan sees a influx of money they do anything to make the transit experience better.
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Just building Terminal E Phase 2 with a connector to the Blue Line and the A-B Connector would be game changing.
 
sneijder said:
A bit off topic, but LGA has been winning accolades since its multi-year reconstruction. Sure the flow of people within the terminal has been much improved, but anyone who's been there lately knows the airport roadways are a all-day clusterfuck of cars, ubers, and buses. It's incredible that even after going through a full-depth reconstruction of all the roadways (and scrapping the airtrain, but that's a different story), they couldn't even at a bare minimum build a dedicated transit center road loop so the Q70, SBS buses, and other employee shuttles don't have to mix with private cars and ubers. Instead, we get 90+% SOV mode share for people arriving/departing LGA for the next 25 years.

www.cbsnews.com

LaGuardia named best airport in the United States by Forbes Travel Guide

LaGuardia Airport was named the Best U.S. Airport in Forbes Travel Guide's inaugural luxury air travel awards.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com

We better hope the next time Logan sees a influx of money they do anything to make the transit experience better.
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Thats an insane turn around. From worst to first. When I was active duty and travelling a lot that place was hell on earth. Havent seen it post upgrade, but thats a huge change. I remember the super low crappy stained drop ceiling panels, plywood dividers for walls, and at one point going to a different part of the terminal we had to walk outside between plywood dividers. True 3rd world country shit.
 
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sneijder said:
A bit off topic, but LGA has been winning accolades since its multi-year reconstruction. Sure the flow of people within the terminal has been much improved, but anyone who's been there lately knows the airport roadways are a all-day clusterfuck of cars, ubers, and buses. It's incredible that even after going through a full-depth reconstruction of all the roadways (and scrapping the airtrain, but that's a different story), they couldn't even at a bare minimum build a dedicated transit center road loop so the Q70, SBS buses, and other employee shuttles don't have to mix with private cars and ubers. Instead, we get 90+% SOV mode share for people arriving/departing LGA for the next 25 years.

www.cbsnews.com

LaGuardia named best airport in the United States by Forbes Travel Guide

LaGuardia Airport was named the Best U.S. Airport in Forbes Travel Guide's inaugural luxury air travel awards.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com

We better hope the next time Logan sees a influx of money they do anything to make the transit experience better.
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To be fair, taking an MTA bus to/from LGA is not a bad experience at all. The frequency of the routes that serve the airport are quite high. I've had nothing but good experiences with the M60 SBS. Even when there is traffic on the triboro bridge, its a perfectly serviceable way to get to LGA.
 
sneijder said:
It's incredible that even after going through a full-depth reconstruction of all the roadways (and scrapping the airtrain, but that's a different story), they couldn't even at a bare minimum build a dedicated transit center road loop so the Q70, SBS buses, and other employee shuttles don't have to mix with private cars and ubers. Instead, we get 90+% SOV mode share for people arriving/departing LGA for the next 25 years.
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While I don't want to overstate it (there are obviously many larger improvements that would be better) - They are supposedly moving ahead with quite a few improvements to the buses there that will be fairly substantial when/if built.

Not a full list, but:

Q70 bus lane on the last mile of the BQE NB, signal priority elsewhere, exclusive bus loop within at terminal C.

New non-stop shuttle from the end of the N/W line with bus lanes on 31st/19th + signal priority.

The expectation is to pull travel times down around 25% from the middle of Manhattan (Penn/Times Square) + improve reliability. 40-45min instead of the ~1hr it currently is unless you get lucky with LIRR timing.

Is that as good as I'd like it to be or as good as a car is at lower traffic times, no. But it would still be significant and I do think is significant enough to lower that car mode share by a fairly noticeable amount.
 
themissinglink said:
www.bostonglobe.com

Construction to start on new $450 million parking garage at Logan Airport’s Terminal E - The Boston Globe

With travel hitting a record high last year, Massport is moving ahead with a new garage that will add some 5,000 parking spaces to the airport.
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Holy crap if they're planning 5000 spaces in the terminal E garage alone, that's going to be a ****ing massive structure. For reference, the 2019 plan was for just ~2000 spaces here, with the remaining 3000 to be built as an expansion to the economy garage.

Also, the process for this is very odd - I looked and I couldn't find the bid documents for this - there's nothing on the Bid Express page for L1820, and per Skanska they signed a $450M contract in December... a month in which the Massport board isn't scheduled to meet. Nor does has the Massport Board voted on that authorization insofar as I can find, and I checked all of their agendas going back to Sept 2023. This is also apparently part of something called the NCEC program which allegedly stands for "Next Century Economy and Connectivity," but good luck finding anything else about that online.

It took me an age of trawling through every Massport slidedeck I could find from 2024, but all I could track down were these conceptual renders posted in February as part of a 5D master schedule/rendering RFP. While likely only representative as massing, since it's missing the cited PV cladding, it's still absurdly massive - I count no fewer than 11 decks.
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I thought Massport's goal was to dramatically reduce the traffic flow to Logan by promoting public transit so this completely contradicts the mandate from just a few years ago. My takeaway is that they need the $$ that a parking garage will generate to sustain Logan's budget.
 
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Despite the high cost, the garage will pay for itself rather quickly. It will be a cash cow for Massport for a long time after it’s paid off.

Note that, to offset the increased traffic, they are also expanding mass transit options in the form of increased Logan Express, silver line, and circulator buses (as well as transitioning their buses to BEB’s).
 
RandomWalk said:
The fixation on vehicle storage at Logan is deeply regressive. At the very least, they should shift the storage closer to the people (e.g. Logan Express).
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They could use more Logan Express locations and need to do a better job of marketing it. Once you’ve used Logan Express, you never want to go back to the hassle of driving in and paying $40/day.
 
The same way airlines have become banks with a transportation system attached, airports have become parking providers and shopping malls with a transport facility attached.
 
kmp1284 said:
They could use more Logan Express locations and need to do a better job of marketing it. Once you’ve used Logan Express, you never want to go back to the hassle of driving in and paying $40/day.
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They also need to make it painless for families on vacation.
 
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