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Are we going to learn the lessons from this?“The MBTA completed the fastest permanent station construction project in its history.
You must be new here.Are we going to learn the lessons from this?
Lessons? Like controlling costs for once in their useless lives and not breaking state laws because they were in such a terrible rush?Are we going to learn the lessons from this?
Well that's the kind of lesson I would want to be learned. That maybe said state law, just like many local ordinances we all regularly gripe about, is a net negative on outcomes. Outcomes are what we should be focused on.
They circumvented fair bidding by appending the project as a change order onto a completely unrelated already-awarded project to the same bidder (Suffolk Construction). That's quite freaking not-okay, and quite freaking directly tied to the extremely bloated cost ($35M) of the renovation because no one else was allowed to compete and pitch something better. Foxboro cost exactly as much to renovate as Natick Center, with just 1 permanent platform, no vertical circulation, pre-existing egresses and utility hookups, no land acquisition, and no measures to retain existing service during construction. We don't know if anyone else could've met the deadline with a lower offer because there was no fair bidding process whatsoever.Well that's the kind of lesson I would want to be learned. That maybe said state law, just like many local ordinances we all regularly gripe about, is a net negative on outcomes. Outcomes are what we should be focused on.
Totally makes sense! Not having followed the project I was reacting exclusively to the speed headline.They circumvented fair bidding by appending the project as a change order onto a completely unrelated already-awarded project to the same bidder (Suffolk Construction). That's quite freaking not-okay, and quite freaking directly tied to the extremely bloated cost ($35M) of the renovation because no one else was allowed to compete and pitch something better. Foxboro cost exactly as much to renovate as Natick Center, with just 1 permanent platform, no vertical circulation, pre-existing egresses and utility hookups, no land acquisition, and no measures to retain existing service during construction. We don't know if anyone else could've met the deadline with a lower offer because there was no fair bidding process whatsoever.
That's a scandal, not a positive outcome to emulate.
Temp full-highs really wouldn't do anything for the Newton stops because you have the egress stairs leaving those stations just as completely inaccessible as before. It'd speed train boarding/alighting a little bit, which doesn't matter a whole lot right now when the Newton schedules are as sparse as they are, but it does bupkis for actual accessibility. Plus there's curves at Newtonville and Auburndale, so it would be especially expensive to prefab an erector set for those stops because the platform sections would have to be precisely custom-cut.Looks good tbh, the mbta has been making some attractive CR stations lately. On the temporary side it makes me wonder if they could throw some temporary high levels up in places like newtonville and other places planned to get a new station but its 5-10 years out. I’m sure one of those could easily last 5 years and itd be better than whats there. Just say they plan to break ground on the station in 2 years and then after its up they wont demolish it if its still sound and the station gets delayed right?
They are. It was a condition of their approvals; foxboro will revert to a single side platform after the world cup is over.Also I suspect the Foxboro temporary high-level will come down after the World Cup, as I believe Foxboro is a clearance route for CSX freight trains going from Framingham to Attleboro, and with high levels on both tracks there's no way for wide-load freight trains to go past. This was also likely why Mansfield was re-built as a low-level in 2019.
*high-level, not mini=high
That's a permanent station reno, for a cool $66M. Elevators for accessibility, a second platform, full-high platforms, and up-and-over access. It's been in planning for over 5 years. The controversial aspect is that the current design iteration is trying to do only 4-car platforms in vain attempt to save money, when trains even on the off-peak run 5+ at that station.Crazy timing, I just came across this on facebook, apparently they actually are doing that at newtonville and just discussed it in a recent mbta meeting.
Yea I realized this my bad, yall are too fast on the replies lol. I was looking on the mbta website if it was the full build and then edited the post and then there was already 2 replies. Ah well.That's a permanent station reno, for a cool $66M. Elevators for accessibility, a second platform, full-high platforms, and up-and-over access. It's been in planning for over 5 years. The controversial aspect is that the current design iteration is trying to do only 4-car platforms in vain attempt to save money, when trains even on the off-peak run 5+ at that station.
www.figcitynews.com
The project manager noted it’s technically two bridges, both low clearance (as many truck drivers have found out over the years). The bridge was last inspected in the fall where the MBTA discovered missing anchor bolts.
The MBTA said it’s monitoring the situation and plans to start making repairs in two weeks. They would start sooner, but have to wait until the end of the World Cup (or at least the games in Foxborough). Once work begins, the MBTA will close one lane underneath the bridge.
The project should begin on July 19 and last for no longer than 90 days. The project manager actually said they could finish within 75-80 days. This puts the end date around mid-October.
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Part of the project will include closing the western driveway of the soccer club. The MBTA will, though, maintain access for the Muraco culvert project. They will also maintain pedestrian access.
Proposed work includes bearing replacement, concrete repairs and bridge superstructure painting. Stage 1 involves repairs to the south half of the bridge while stage 2 involves repairs to the north half of the bridge.
Thats why Suffolk Construction CEO John Fish was pushing so hard for Boston to host the Olympics. He was planning on stealing countless millions from taxpayers. There are only two types of people who want to host huge events like the World Cup or Olympics: billionaires and suckers.They circumvented fair bidding by appending the project as a change order onto a completely unrelated already-awarded project to the same bidder (Suffolk Construction). That's quite freaking not-okay, and quite freaking directly tied to the extremely bloated cost ($35M) of the renovation because no one else was allowed to compete and pitch something better. Foxboro cost exactly as much to renovate as Natick Center, with just 1 permanent platform, no vertical circulation, pre-existing egresses and utility hookups, no land acquisition, and no measures to retain existing service during construction. We don't know if anyone else could've met the deadline with a lower offer because there was no fair bidding process whatsoever.
That's a scandal, not a positive outcome to emulate.