Franklin Park - White Stadium Renovation

Its crazy how much soccer infrastructure is being built out in this country now. We now have the pro stadium in rhode island, white stadium moving forward for the womens pro team, and the ok for a revs stadium in everett. The same things are happening across the whole country. Hopefully all of this investment leads to a better national team in the next idk 10-20 years.
 
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Renders look dope, but the marketing team for this club remains incredibly confused. It's like everything was conceived of by a focus group... and the focus group was full of lobotomites.
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That's been present at a lot of the games in Pawtucket and it seems quite popular with the fan base, along with all the swan stuff (Fear the Flock, Up the Swans, Barking Swans etc.). The supporters group literally honks during many of their chants, you'll see people wearing swan hats, and there is even a giant 100ft swan overlooking the field during games. The difference between cringe and cool is just community buy-in, and they've been landing a lot of their marketing moves since the Bos Nation catastrophe.

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samsongam said:
That's been present at a lot of the games in Pawtucket and it seems quite popular with the fan base, along with all the swan stuff (Fear the Flock, Up the Swans, Barking Swans etc.). The supporters group literally honks during many of their chants, you'll see people wearing swan hats, and there is even a giant 100ft swan overlooking the field during games. The difference between cringe and cool is just community buy-in, and they've been landing a lot of their marketing moves since the Bos Nation catastrophe.

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It's also super common internationally for teams to have official team names and nicknames completely independent from each other. Often the nicknames come from team imagery or local culture/history beyond the "official" team name. US / Canadian pro sports leagues are kind of the outlier here, where the team "nickname" generally is the team name (a clear outlier in North America being the "Montreal Canadiens" widely using the nickname of the "Habs"; this is more the international practice).

So "Boston Legacy FC" having a swan in their crest and being colloquially called "the Swans" is completely consistent with, say, "Manchester United FC" having a red devil in their crest and being colloquially called "the Red Devils" (and the same goes, fictionally, for AFC Richmond and "the Greyhounds").
 
stick n move said:
Its crazy how much soccer infrastructure is being built out in this country now. We now have the pro stadium in rhode island, white stadium moving forward for the womens pro team, and the ok for a revs stadium in everett. The same things are happening across the whole country. Hopefully all of this investment leads to a better national team in the next idk 10-20 years.
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The US women are doing just fine. The dudes, not so much.
 
SteelyTom said:
The US women are doing just fine. The dudes, not so much.
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US women have done well the last few decades because they had a huge head start on investing in women's soccer due to title IX and college athletics. The gap has significantly closed to the rest of the soccer world though as women's leagues/ national programs have grown in England, Spain, France, and Germany with investment from the existing men's infrastructure (North Korea is a really interesting example. They are a top team on the women's side but awful on the men's side because they chose to invest equally in boys and girls at a young age). Most of the European leagues have better development infrastructure, more investment linked to the incredibly powerful/rich men's teams and they aren't limited by salary cap rules/closed systems that restrain American sports. Many of the top USWNT players have gone to play in Europe over the NWSL because they can make more money, with higher levels of coaching, and bigger aspirations.

So yes, the USWNT have been fantastic, but now that the rest of the world is investing in the women's game with their superior infrastructure, cultural buy-in, and sporting systems, the US will have to grow considerably faster in the next decade than they have previously to not be left behind like the men. Next year's world cup will be a big test as we got upset very early last time. The men on the other hand have done quite well to claw their way to being an top 20 team in the world as a country where its like the 5th most relevant sport generally, but they would need a massive jump and change to overcome over 100 years of investment and cultural impact from other countries.
 
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If you look at the development of soccer in the US over, say, the last 60 years, you could even argue that the progress that the men's team has made is more impressive than the that of the women's team. Women were literally banned from playing soccer in England until 1970. It really wasn't that hard for the US women to dominate in that global environment.
 
A group of swans is a bevy, a wedge, a flight, a bank, a herd, or a flottilla, but never a flock. So I suggest we behold the bevy, worship the wedge, or fear the flight...
 
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