171 Tremont Street | Downtown

Updated renders (from the latest BRA submission)

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An improvement over the present and a missed opportunity in one. Both spectacular and underwhelming at the same time.
 
DZH22 said:
Given the strict guidelines here, maybe it's time we tore down Tremont on the Common. That's probably responsible for half the "shadow bank" by itself! How the hell was that one ever approved?
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Shadow legislation/fear exists because of buildings like Tremont on the Common.

Also, those last 2 aerial renders are weird because the trees are casting shadows, but the buildings aren't.
 
datadyne007 said:
Shadow legislation/fear exists because of buildings like Tremont on the Common.

Also, those last 2 aerial renders are weird because the trees are casting shadows, but the buildings aren't.
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Given that it's early morning sun that cast Tremont shadows anyhow, does it really matter?
 
What's behind the blank wall of doom on the first ~5 floors of TotC? Is that parking? A server bank? I wouldn't mind TotC anywhere near as much if somehow the urban atrocity of those first few floors could be undone.
 
Damm those trees adding shadows on the park. We need to ban all trees or it'll become a dark unfriendly corridor.
 
Shepard said:
What's behind the blank wall of doom on the first ~5 floors of TotC? Is that parking? A server bank? I wouldn't mind TotC anywhere near as much if somehow the urban atrocity of those first few floors could be undone.
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It is parking. My husband was a valet there. Very very tight garage.
 
odurandina said:
Some architect from St. Petersburg was homesick?
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Ha, that's funny, probably fitting. That said, when I vacationed in St. Pete for the first time back in February, I really enjoyed its urban texture--it's an immensely walkable downtown--like Boston, it feels very "pre-war" in terms of early 20th-c. architecture and short blocks--some great street-level restaurant/retail, and the whole harborwalk is enchanting. Both vital and pulsing but also quite mellow and charming and intimate compared to the far more alienating and sterile-seeming beast that is Tampa. And the Salvador Dali museum is the 'nads. It happens to be immediately adjacent to their IndyCar track, which, coming from Boston just after our fiasco blew over, seemed like some kind of absurd farce to have glimpsed.
 
I think he meant St Petersburg Russia...not Florida...as in soviet style building that is tremont on the common.
 
Thanks. Pardon, i was talking about Petrograd. :) :rolleyes:

have you been to the Delray Beach strip on a Saturday Night? it's one of the finer hubs of civilization during the winter months.

all-time favorites.

1. Lauderdale A1A Combat Zone 1982-86 incl 1985 carnage (rest in peace),
2. Delray Beach/Atlantic Ave/A1A; long, T-shaped strip loosely partitioned young/old.
3. South Beach
4. St. Augustine (historic/rustic motif, old and young mix)
5. Downtown Ft Lauderdale (best young crowd in Florida).
6. Las Olas Blvd restaurant bars, Ft Lauderdale.
 
St. Petersburg Russia has an architecture of European imperial capital which it was for a couple of centuries and I find it absolutely amazing. It looks mush more like Vienna, Prague or Budapest than your stereotypical Soviet town.
 
This looks contextual and fine, who really cares about this parcel. The facade is nice and it fills a gap, we weren't getting any type of height here whatsoever. It looks good, yea some more height would have been cool, but in my own opinion I don't really care about this parcel as long as whatever it is looks good and it does. Now if this was somewhere else and it got cut from 650 down to whatever this is right now that would be ridiculous, but at the end of the day its a net gain on a tiny parcel that fits the context of its surroundings. Looking at the renders it fits right in. We do need height in the city, but the common is like hallowed ground that thou shall not touch with shadows. Thats not changing any time soon. It is what it is.
 
Smartiro said:
St. Petersburg Russia has an architecture of European imperial capital which it was for a couple of centuries and I find it absolutely amazing. It looks mush more like Vienna, Prague or Budapest than your stereotypical Soviet town.
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Old city right on the harbor, yes. Move any distance out and it goes first through a 1930's Stalinist vibe -- very authoritarian architecture, then into the dreadful 1950's Soviet blocks of housing.

City of many faces -- only one of which they want to show tourists.
 
Smartiro said:
St. Petersburg Russia has an architecture of European imperial capital which it was for a couple of centuries and I find it absolutely amazing. It looks mush more like Vienna, Prague or Budapest than your stereotypical Soviet town.
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Smartiro -- the iconic look that you are searching for is Nowa Huta -- built just outside historic Krakow by the Communists in the late 40's through the mid 50's to house the workers of the then Lenin Steel Works -- and taking into account the Le Corbusier type city plan

now the Tadeusz Sendzimir Steelworks is owned by a global steel firm

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ironically since its earliest construction dates from the Stalin + immediately after period the buildings were reasonable to look at [Socialist Realist with a smattering of Renaissance Revival] and reasonably well constructed of good materials
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Later additions were krappier all around

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Today it is a district in Krakow and actually quite a popular place for Millennials as you can get a good amount of space in a modern or renovated condo complex for a reasonable price

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and you have Nowa Huta on the Common
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