Bartlett Yards | 2505-2565 Washington Street | Roxbury

What’s confusing me is that you look at the Birds Eye view and less than half the place is covered in buildings? It’s all open space. Historic parts of Boston don’t look like that.
 
Longfellow said:
What’s confusing me is that you look at the Birds Eye view and less than half the place is covered in buildings? It’s all open space. Historic parts of Boston don’t look like that.
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That’s because backwards American planning, building codes, and financial incentive structure pretty much require all multifamily building projects to be cheap and crappy popsicle stick buildings in oceans of parking, which is what we have here.
 
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goody said:
I am memorized be seeing the roof structure highlighted by the snow on the First Church in Roxbury.
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That’s the sign of a very poorly insulated roof. A well-insulated (and vented) roof will stay cold when it’s cold outside, without heat from inside the building escaping out to melt the snow outside. What you’re seeing here is snow staying frozen on the thicker joists but melting on the sheathing as heat escapes through it.

You can see this even in single family residential neighborhoods: poorly insulated roof will show their joists after a snowfall while well-insulated roofs will keep consistent snow cover.
 
As of 8/17/25.
 

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PNF is out for lot c


26 Bartlett Station Drive
“The proposed development at Bartlett Place Lot C will construct a 4-story building containing 61 mixed-income homeownership units, of which 12 are affordable and 4 are dedicated to Artist Live/Work. The building will also feature a variety of residential amenities, including bike parking, lounge and gallery space for artist use, a dog washing room, mail room, private inner courtyard, and a below-grade parking garage with 51 spaces.”


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The bigger tragedy IMO is the waste of density. Imagine if this had been designed as a grid of thru-streets with six-story rowhouses throughout, maybe with a small area set aside for a park. Instead, we essentially got a suburban hotel park that will forever feel isolated from the surrounding area. Even for pedestrians, the grade changes and the block-sized buildings acting as physical barricades along Washington Street make this a rather uninviting area to walk through.
 
mssrro said:
The bigger tragedy IMO is the waste of density. Imagine if this had been designed as a grid of thru-streets with six-story rowhouses throughout, maybe with a small area set aside for a park. Instead, we essentially got a suburban hotel park that will forever feel isolated from the surrounding area. Even for pedestrians, the grade changes and the block-sized buildings acting as physical barricades along Washington Street make this a rather uninviting area to walk through.
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bUt ThEY broKE uP thE MAsSiNg!!!
 
mssrro said:
The bigger tragedy IMO is the waste of density. Imagine if this had been designed as a grid of thru-streets with six-story rowhouses throughout, maybe with a small area set aside for a park. Instead, we essentially got a suburban hotel park that will forever feel isolated from the surrounding area. Even for pedestrians, the grade changes and the block-sized buildings acting as physical barricades along Washington Street make this a rather uninviting area to walk through.
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What you’re describing would be a great improvement, and it has been made illegal to build.
 
While I agree in principle, interestingly, this site is ~8 acres and adding nearly 400 homes. That's about 50du/ac or 32k per sqmi and fitting with the density of the South End and Lower Rox. Broken up 5 story South End brownstones get a little denser, but generic townhomes don't. It's just a crappy way to distribute the density, esp if you don't have lots of ground floor retail/activation of the apt buildings, wasting what they bring.
mssrro said:
The bigger tragedy IMO is the waste of density. Imagine if this had been designed as a grid of thru-streets with six-story rowhouses throughout, maybe with a small area set aside for a park. Instead, we essentially got a suburban hotel park that will forever feel isolated from the surrounding area. Even for pedestrians, the grade changes and the block-sized buildings acting as physical barricades along Washington Street make this a rather uninviting area to walk through.
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