tklalmighty
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What about Newton Commonwealth Golf Course, Granite Links Quincy (Awesome Skyline views)? or TPC Norton? for Golf?
I could see TPC hosting it, but unlikely. First dibs will almost certainly go to The Country Club (which according to the Boston 2024 team is already planned to get it), due to its history and quality.
For mountain biking, couldn't you have parking at Blue hills at the trailside, museum, the lots around ponkapoag pond and houghton's pond, and along the roadways through the blue hills? perhaps you could have satellite parking at local companies office parks along route 128 corridor by Dedham and off route 24 and at Legacy Place Mall and South bay.. with shuttle busses to the start-finish line viewing areas. I think Blue Hills has enough varying terrain to be a fabulous mountain biking course. - could have shuttle busses from Readville Commuter Rail as well. And maybe temporary silver line bus routes from Downtown....via 28/138....Other possibilities for mountain biking would be WOMPATUCK state park - Hingham --- A combination of Bear Brook/Pawtuckaway park near Manchester NH, combination of Lynn woods and Breakheart Reservation c ourse with a on road connection over route 1 (Essex Street) I think it is? ---- Middlesex Fells course. .(Winchester-Medford-Stoneham).... - perhaps a course up in Carlisle Concord using various conservation land trails and Great Brook farm with a couple back road connections. ----or you could do western mass for mountain biking including Beartown Forest, October Moutnain Forest, Mount Washington Forest or Mount Greylock Forest. Wachusett Mountain Reservation and a combination with Leominster State Forest would be another option. Finally, a last option would be the Tully Trail in North Central Mass by Tully Campground.
I'm pretty sure you just suggested every single hill in Eastern MA and Southern NH. It should be pointed out that the farther out the venue, the longer it'd take to reach the venue from the Olympic Village, and the less likely it'll be used. Blue Hills seems like the best option to me, but I don't know the technical requirements for a mountain biking course.
I still think the aquatics center , velodrome , and tennis complex should be built at Harvard along with field hockey at the current stadium (and the venues should be all reused after the games by the university and public rather than torn down. ) (I feel that is a waste of resources and $$$)
Temporary stadiums are also generally easier (read: cheaper) to build and take down than permanent stadiums are to build. The thing Boston 2024 needs to avoid is the legacy of leaving behind white elephants. If Harvard plans on keeping Blodgett Pool, it has no use for the temporary aquatics center it will be lending its land for. Current plans also make use of Harvard's tennis facility, but there's no way Harvard needs three show courts. The only way it uses the show courts is if they retrofit it for hockey, basketball, or as a replacement for Palmer-Dixon or Dillon or what-have-you. Harvard has no use for a velodrome unless there's some way to adapt it and replace Gordon Indoor Track.
Why not use Moakely Park for Archery and Shooting??? (Temporary venues that could be torn down after)
Shooting, maybe. Archery, maybe. Both, probably not. The footprint of Moakley isn't large enough for both from what I can tell. Also, if they're using the Bayside site as an Olympic village, Moakley will likely be incorporated into the village as a training ground.
I would also like to see Fenway have 20,000 seats added along right field and in the bleachers and used for the primary soccer venue (Soccer has been done well at fenway before, it would be awesome feel to the atosphere.) along with Baseball and Softball. a softball venue (Temporary ) could be built @ Moakley park as well. as the archery/shooting venue.
If you can convince me that the following three things are true, then it would be feasible:
- The field at Fenway can actually hold a 68m by 105m soccer field, including the auxiliary buffer area as suggested by FIFA.
- Without disturbing the aformentioned pitch footprint, 20,000 seats can actually be added temporarily and to current safety and ADA standards.
- Such an alignment at Fenway is better than simply using Gillette Stadium.
I'm pretty certain none of those three things are true. Gillette Stadium will most assuredly serve as the soccer venue in the Boston area. The remaining soccer games will be played in other cities since there is a greater inventory of adequate stadiums.
I would like to see a Beach Volleyball venue built next to piers park as part of the East Boston Waterfront Project (Redevelopment) instead of the common. - could reuse after as retail space or what not. -
Why is the common a bad idea to you? I mean I never would've thought to put it on the Common (I actually would've used Moakley for beach volleyball), but I guess I don't really see why it wouldn't work.
I would like to see Equestrian @ the brownfield site in South Boston by City Point ---could be cleaned up and turned into a park after the games. Either that or Suffolk Downs to save suffolk downs and create an assembly row type development there with retail, hotels, condos. Maybe an athletes village there? (Right on the Blue Line)
Suffolk Downs can't accommodate the cross-country course required for the eventing event. London's course was 5.7 km long, for reference.
Is there any way we can make the Olympic Stadium permanent? if we do this right? And also find a place to move the companies that would be displaced by the venue? I think that would be best for everyone! It just seems silly to build a stadium and not use it after. Why not use it for something at least if not a stadium use it as a community rec center or something --- or just use it as a stadium and develop a assembly row type project around it. - have the revs move there after the games..
Also why not add a retractable roof to the widett circle stadium so we could host a super bowl --add enough seats so we could host a super bowl, wrestlemania, NCAA championships, World Cup events...and more. as well as regular concerts. Make it a destination. Not a temporary place.
So are you suggesting that the Olympic Stadium be both converted for the Revs and still Super Bowl capable? You can't have both. If the Revs move out of Foxborough it'll be to a 30k seat stadium. Super Bowls require stadiums with 70k+ seats. The only two teams in the Boston area that could possibly use a 70k+ seat stadium are the Patriots and Boston College; the latter being somewhat of a stretch. I figure the Patriots are fine where they are now. As it stands, World Cup events would be hosted at Gillette anyway so it presents no push for keeping the Olympic Stadium in full post-games. Also, I don't think wrestlemania would be worth making any temporary stadium permanent.
Now, if they follow through with downsizing the stadium for the Revs, it's still a 30k seat stadium that could make for the best outdoor concert facility inside 128. But I wouldn't get my hopes up for hosting a Super Bowl any time soon.