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You could vote Kevin McCrae... or write in "Free Chuck Turner!!!" just for laughs.
 
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"My opposition has something to do with the process," Yoon said, adding that he believed that the community-involvement procedure was flawed and ignored hundreds of stakeholders.

Huh? This process was weighted heavily in the favor of the rich community activists who have been fighting BC and the BRA for years.

The process may be broken, but it's not because the Lake St Warriors were denied their every whim.
 
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Have there ever been two more disappointing "change" candidates than Yoon and Flaherty? The former has fallen all over himself in support of money-wasting police details - the latter has positioned himself as an apologist for every idiocy of the firemen's union. Both of them have also championed a host of narrow NIMBY causes that fly in the face of common sense. In their respective home turfs, they are absolutely cringe-inducing: you'd get the impression that the role of city government was not to provide essential services but rather to subsidize every immigrant's apartment or to provide a job with a good pension to every layabout in Southie. I guess the idea is that in a low-turnout election, they hope to win with a combination of votes from municipal employees, would-be municipal employees, and the handful of disgruntled nutjobs in every neighborhood who can be counted on to oppose any change in use or any development bigger than a two-story brick townhouse.

It's depressing, politics circa 1954. There's no leadership whatsoever.

The issue of Colleges providing student housing is a serious one, one that can't be wished away any more than the structural imperative for pension reform and a funding mechanism to restore the MBTA to solvency. And the increasing tendency to view the universities and hospitals as piggy banks is frightening. They have been the only reliable engines of economic growth and employment in this area.
 
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InTheHood for Mayor!

However, just FYI, in 1954 Boston had one of it's best mayor's ever, John Hynes. Sure, he demolished the West End, but he also defeated the Curly patronage machine once and for all and started the city down the road to economic recovery.
 
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However, just FYI, in 1954 Boston had one of it's best mayor's ever, John Hynes. Sure, he demolished the West End...

I've never made the connection before. What is it about the Hynes family that compels them to tear huge holes in the city's urban fabric? Must run in the bloodline. :)
 
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Have there ever been two more disappointing "change" candidates than Yoon and Flaherty? The former has fallen all over himself in support of money-wasting police details - the latter has positioned himself as an apologist for every idiocy of the firemen's union.

There are at least a couple reasons for so much ludicrous pandering to special interests:

1. There's not enough care and concern among the general body public, so candidates have to rely on votes and funding from activist bodies

2. There's no candidate putting pressure on the others with ideas, because all these people think they have a realistic shot. If Boston had a "Bulworth"-style mayoral candidate who boldly put forward issues without concern for offending the city's precious power-constituencies, the race would necessarily be much different.
 
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And the mayor sends an olive branch to the Lake St. Warriors by "requiring" BC build the dorm first. As if! Dorms are revenue-generators. Big ones! No college will ever turn down the opportunity to increase dormitory counts if they think they can fill it. And in this town, and with this administration's open hostility toward students in rental stock, there will always be demand.

The mayor made another token gesture for re-election votes. Ick.
 
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Problem is that there are 2 places where dorms can be built 'first' - on the former archdiocese grounds and on athletic fields. The Lake St people will be mighty ticked if the first option is picked, despite their insistence for dorms first. The second option requires building a new baseball field first on the Brighton Campus before building a dorm. BC wants to take the second path. Either way this will end with peeved Lake St people (as if anyone is surprised by that possible outcome).
 
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They have already started relocating people from more hall and are designing the dorm far that site.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was the first dorm built.
 
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Brighton residents sue city over BC

By Andrea Estes, Globe Staff | July 11, 2009

Brighton residents sued the City of Boston this week, seeking to halt Boston College?s plan to build ball fields and a dorm on the site of the former headquarters of the Catholic Archdiocese of Boston.

The suit was filed in Suffolk Superior Court by two homeowners, including the realtor brother of Secretary of State William F. Galvin. It accused the city of rubberstamping the school?s $1 billion expansion plan without studying the traffic, parking, economic, and environmental consequences to the neighborhood.

The plaintiffs contend the school is proceeding with construction at the 65-acre site, even though opponents had until this week to appeal the city?s decision in court.

They are asking a judge to stop the plan and order city officials to restart the approval process.

According to Patrick Galvin, heavy excavation has disturbed the once tranquil site at the corner of Commonwealth Avenue and Lake Street, long inhabited by an array of animals. Foxes, rabbits, opossums and skunks have been seen wandering the neighborhood, said Galvin and other residents.

?This land has never been touched,?? Galvin said. ?You put in 10-foot trenches and cut down trees, and we?re suddenly inundated with wildlife: foxes, skunks. A woman found a baby rabbit in the middle of the road.??

Boston College spokesman Jack Dunn had not seen the lawsuit, but shot back at the Galvin brothers.

?The institutional master plan was approved in a lengthy public process by the Boston Redevelopment Authority, the Boston Zoning Commission, and the mayor,?? he said. ?We have every confidence the plan will be upheld despite any attempt by the Galvin family to abuse their power in an attempt to thwart it.??

The secretary of state has been an outspoken opponent of the college?s expansion plan.

Dunn said the school has not started construction on any projects in the plan. The work it is undertaking - renovation of buildings on the site - was approved in an earlier expansion plan, he said.

BC purchased the for $172 million, according to Dunn.

In June, the city?s Zoning Commission approved the school?s 10-year master plan, which allows the school to build four academic buildings, a fine arts center, more than 1,000 beds of undergraduate housing, and athletic fields and facilities. At Mayor Thomas M. Menino?s urging, the commission required that the school first build a dorm on campus before it built on the archdiocesan site.

But many residents were still not satisfied and believe it is only a matter of time before the school revives its plan to house students on the site. When city officials approved the master plan, they excluded the plan for the dorm on the archdiocesan property, waiting for further advisement.

?The dormitory [idea] hasn?t been abandoned by Boston College,?? said William Galvin, who also lives nearby.

Ram Rao - chairman of a group formed to oppose the expansion plan, Brighton Neighbors United - said that the city?s approval process was tainted.

?People never felt alternatives were fully explored,?? and it wasn?t an open and transparent process, he said. ?There are more than 60 acres there. That amounts to 10 percent of the green open space in Brighton.??

Residents are concerned too, Rao said, that the city allowed the school to move forward with plans to convert an apartment building it purchased on Commonweath Avenue into dorms. The school, he said, should be housing students on campus.

But Denis Minihane, a Brighton business owner who served on a Boston College Task Force appointed by the city, said he supports the ?positive growth?? that the plan and Boston College represent.

?BC needed housing for their students, and it was a natural fit,?? Minihane said. ?Many of the neighbors want to see the site maintained as wilderness, so they can walk their dogs and see the fox chase the rabbits. But BC?s plans are cautious. They are classy. The buildings will be nice.??

He added: ?They will bring in students and students spend money. Students bring vitality, and they bring safety to the streets.??

The suit also alleges that the task force violated the state open meeting law when it met in a closed door session Jan. 28. At that meeting, the group reversed its earlier opposition to a dormitory on the former archdiocesan property. The task force refused to explain its decision or release records of its proceedings, the suit said, though Suffolk District Attorney Daniel F. Conley ruled that doing so was required.
? Copyright 2009 The New York Times Company

http://www.boston.com/news/local/ma...09/07/11/brighton_residents_sue_city_over_bc/
 
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Does anyone seriously think this holds water?

?This land has never been touched,?? Galvin said.

Shut up you f-ing moron.
 
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I was at one of the BRA meetings where Galvin spoke against this. I believe he lives right on or immediately off of lake street. This is just a NIMBY with power. I don't know how BC can be said to have gone through a rubber stamp process when they gave hell every step of the way.

And to the lake street people, it doesn't matter if its all the "green open space" in Brighton, BC paid hundreds of millions for it, they can build a damn art museum. The last guy said it best, these people just want an open dog park, but in reality, students bring money, and safety because BC has the highest paid police force in the state protecting the kids.
 
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The Mayor is requesting Boston College continue to pay taxes on 2000 Comm Ave after conversion to dormitories from apartments through a complicated scheme called, "I am the Mayor, and I want BC to voluntarily pay 400 grand a year in taxes, so the obvious course of action is to put out a press release."

As it proceeds with a $1 billion expansion, the college is seeking to transform a 188-unit high-rise at 2000 Commonwealth Ave. into a dormitory for 560 students, which would allow the school to claim a tax exemption for the property. The college purchased the building for $67 million in 2008.

I understand the city is in a rough position, relying so much on property tax. I do wonder though, with so much city-owned property deliberately left vacant by the BRA, why not encourage development there?

BC is legally exempt from property taxes. Leaving aside the PR issue BC faces if they decline the Mayor's request, their exemption is the law. And if people think the law is wrong, the avenue is to deal through the legislature, not by mounting tacky PR campaigns against non-profits.

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Construction seems to have begun on the Jesuit housing on foster st. I believe it is going to be 4, 2-story structures. The architect is Treff LaFleche of LDA architects. I can't find a rendering, but will get some pics of the site tomorrow.

Three old, run down houses were demolished for the site.

Here is a link to an older news article about it.

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Construction seems to have begun on the Jesuit housing on foster st. I believe it is going to be 4, 2-story structures. The architect is Treff LaFleche of LDA architects. I can't find a rendering, but will get some pics of the site tomorrow.

Three old, run down houses were demolished for the site.

Here is a link to an older news article about it.

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Hard to complain about the Jesuits being rowdy, though they have had a terrorist, or two, or three even.

IMO, this Jesuit housing is probably over-built, the number of Jesuits is shrinking steadily. Holy Cross built a residence for its Jesuits in the 1970s, built another, down-sized version in the 1990s, and converted the first into a dormitory. So this may eventually prove to be a stealth dorm, but don't let the neighbors know that.
 
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It may make more sense to convert St. Mary's Hall on the old campus, now the primary Jesuit residence, to student use. I'm told St. Mary's is sub-par, having been built with 19th C. Jesuits in mind, and in need of a complete systems overhaul. This would avoid having to move at least some students to the new Foster St. digs.
 
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Hard to complain about the Jesuits being rowdy, though they have had a terrorist, or two, or three even.

IMO, this Jesuit housing is probably over-built, the number of Jesuits is shrinking steadily. Holy Cross built a residence for its Jesuits in the 1970s, built another, down-sized version in the 1990s, and converted the first into a dormitory. So this may eventually prove to be a stealth dorm, but don't let the neighbors know that.

The Nimby's are wise to BC's stealth ways...

? In order to alleviate concerns that the proposed Weston Jesuit Community Housing might someday be converted to undergraduate housing through the IMP mechanism, BC has agreed to remove that project and the associated land area from the BC IMP and the BC IMP Area and to develop the project through the Weston Jesuit Housing Inc.

from: http://www.bostonredevelopmentauthority.org/press/PressDisplay.asp?pressID=458

I have found a closer site plan.

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The plan looks very suburban, even for Chestnut Hill. The lower campus developments are must more urban in nature.
 

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